What was Santos thinking?!

[PJMcK]

Really, did he think all of his lies would go unchallenged?

Is he so deluded he believes his BS?

In this age where we find out about every wart and wrinkle of everyone one from the British royals to Hollywood celebrities to national politicians, did Lyin’ George really believe he’d get away with his fantasies?

If so, he’s really stupid.

For years, I lived in the NY-03 district. I voted repeatedly for Santos’ predecessor, Tom Suozzi, for mayor of Glen Cove, Nassau County Executive and for Congress. Even Republicans knew who and what Tom Supzzi was and what he stood for. Santos is almost as big an election turnabout as going from President Obama to Trump. It makes my head spun!

[enough]

1. So far he's smarter than the people who put him in office.

[PJMcK]

3. That's one of several reasons I moved! (n/t)

[yardwork]

11. That point needs to be made over and over.

So far, Santos's grift is working very well for him.

[randr]

2. He assumed pathological lyers were accepted by Republicans

He was right

[Cosmocat]

8. BINGO

this is the out take ...

[liberal N proud]

4. They are republicans

[dem4decades]

5. Maybe he was thinking he could be a Republican president in the future?

[Maine Abu El Banat]

6. What was his opponent thinking

Never heard of opposition research.

[PJMcK]

15. Yeah, the Democrat could have run a different campaign

Seems odd in retrospect, especially since a local paper highlighted inconsistencies in Santos’ background. I would’ve expected Robert Zimmerman’s staff to have picked up on those stories. That’s what happens when a campaign only reads the bigger NY papers.

I expect Santos will eventually resign and there will be a special election that will be fierce!

[edisdead]

28. I don't think so.

Look at the craziness in that party now. Why would he resign? And will the party remove him? Doubtful.

[nini]

33. Resign? Nah MTG appears to have taken him under her wing

He’ll survive because they’ll use him to help their cause then kick him to the curb. He’ll vote exactly the way they tell him to do etc. they’ve got a puppet for 2 years at least.

[doc03]

7. I have known a couple pathological liars in my life. Sometimes I think they believe

their bullshit themselves.

[Solomon]

9. Well, he's been getting away with it hasn't he?

[mn9driver]

10. I don't think he can help it.

Looks like mental illness to me.

[FalloutShelter]

19. Another narcissistic sociopath.

They can’t help themselves. He is a fabulist.
They’ve always been out there in the arts and the business world… only recently they have penetrated politics.

The founding fathers never took into account a total lack of honor. Honor was paramount in their century.
Today infamy and fame are interchangeable.

[LakeArenal]

12. What were the voters thinking? The lies were there before the vote

Side story: We sold everything to retire in Costa Rica.
At the auction we put up our barely used lawn tractor we bought for $2700 for bid.
We hoped for $1800. As the bidding went over the $2700, we thought why wouldn’t someone check in line? The bids kept going up and up until it sold for $3900.
Friends said the guy must be crazy to bid $3900. But my thought was what about the guy that bid $3800. At least two people got caught up in it.

Scratch your head and wonder WTH?

[Marius25]

13. He watched Trump tell over 30,000 lies and face no consequences

So why wouldn't he do it too?

[Irish_Dem]

16. Exactly. GOP politicians have the grift of a lifetime.

Santos wanted to get in on the action

[Irish_Dem]

14. He thinks he is smarter than the average bear.

He can talk his way out of everything.

And has always gotten away with all of his lies and scams.

[Quakerfriend]

17. We need to hound him with the

question, Why did oligarch Viktor Vekselberg’s money man give you $$$ ????

Are you working with the Russians??

[Phoenix61]

18. He was thinking $174,000/year plus benefits.

Add that there is little to no chance of being fired. Best scam ever.

[padah513]

23. Thank you

He tried to be everything for everybody, Jewish, Hispanic, part black, part of the LGBTQ community, grandson of a Holocaust survivor, etc., etc., etc., all for that big payday with bennies, and he succeeded. Best scam ever is right.

[dembotoz]

27. nice secure job for 2 years before he has to plan his next step

media attention will die down as we focus on the next shiny thing.

I would not count him out for re election.

[dalton99a]

29. And he can hire a staff of 10 full-time employees to serve him hand and foot

All paid for by federal taxpayers

[leftyladyfrommo]

20. Sociopaths don't think like normal people.

They make up their stories as they go along abd if they get caught they just come up with another story. I don't think they really consider long term consequences.

[Irish_Dem]

21. They think their plans are solid, and they will fool everyone.

[leftyladyfrommo]

24. My niece's sociopathic ex was really sneaky.

He married her because he needed someone to sign fo his student loans. Everything about him turned out to be a lie. He told everyone his whole family was dead because that made people sympathetic and it kept people from checking up on his stories.

He dumped her as soon as he got what he wanted. But it didn't work. Somehow the courts determined that the marriage was fraud and she didn't get stuck with his $50, 000 in student loans. She's married to a really nice guy now.

His thinking was just so strange.

[malaise]

31. Last night I watched this on Investigative Discovery

My jaw dropped to the floor - there are sociopaths everywhere -this woman was colder than ice.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/19/former-pro-boxer-ramon-sosa-faked-his-own-murder-after-wife-hired-hitman-documentary/

https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/woodlands/crime-courts/article/Ex-boxer-says-he-never-saw-wife-s-murder-for-hire-6408821.php

[Irish_Dem]

32. They think they have a perfect right to take other people's money.

They are entitled, smarter than everyone else.

[leftyladyfrommo]

34. He was manipulative and also very abusive.

I met him once. He was very charming.

[Irish_Dem]

35. That is what everyone said about Ted Bundy.

Handsome, charming, the whole nine yards.

Yikes on meeting Santos.

[spanone]

22. It appears all of his lies worked. He's now a US Representative in Congress.

Fucked Up.

[ananda]

25. He saw Republicans do it without repercussions and make money.

So....

[dalton99a]

30. Like the Russian operative who got in the White House without any government experience

and without showing tax returns

[malaise]

26. Santos does not think

He is a total and complete fraud who is owned by Bannon and the MAGA (read Project Fascism’s) financiers.

[peggysue2]

36. He was thinking he could get away with it

Because so far in his life, he's been right--fictionalizing his life story, kiting checks, embezzling funds, etc. Why should anything change? He chose the perfect political climate in which to thrive with the perfect political organization as cover, the Republican Party.

Just watched the Bernie Madoff docudrama on Netflix.

Bernie Madoff thought of himself as a 'good guy'. He, too, thought he could get away with it. Until 40 years later when he couldn't. Had the economic meltdown in 2007-08 not occurred, Madoff might have escaped a deep investigation. But those losses across the board were so great, not even a Bernie Madoff could cover them.

Interesting psych evaluation after Madoff was jailed: Narcissistic sociopath.

I suspect Santos falls into the same category. As does Trump.

Birds of a feather.

Interesting times, as they say!

[haele]

37. I think he assumes that if he's elected, he can't be charged.

He's just enough of a mid-level grifter he has to occasionally worry about getting caught, but stupid enough that after seeing what TFG managed to pull off, he apparently thinks he can pull off the same.
I doubt if he weren't Russian Mob-adjacent, he would have been able to get as far as he did.

Haele