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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnybody else having trouble with being alone?
Starting to get to me. I am fighting depression big time.
essaynnc
(985 posts)its been hard to get back into life after the pandemic. but I'm making it work. going to the UU fellowship has been my lifeline, although its still been hard to really get close to others... I'm blaming my ex for that ! stay strong'
CanonRay
(16,162 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts).
He and his wife were a few years out of college with two kids and were trying to save for a home, so they placed a newspaper ad and received six calls to provide senior care in exchange for a place to live and a small stipend. They got a furnished basement, and provided company for the 90+ year old man, who they referred to as grandpop or something like that. They not only had living space, but utilities and she got $600 a month to cook meals, food shop and do laundry.
In effect it was like an au pair or live in maid service. A lot of people would just be happy for a roof, in exchange for company and maid service or other labor.
A person I took my small dog to would always have folks come by to groom their pets. It was a side business she ran in a room in her basement. She would only deal in small dogs. The funny thing is, you would schedule an appointment and walk up to a basement window. She would open it and we'd pass the dog through the window. She would get regulars and customers every 45 mins or hour, so that kept her busy. The grooming was anywhere from $35-45 cash, which is half charged at pet stores.
I had some other thought the other day, as I'm approaching retirement age, as to how I would keep the house if Social Security is trashed by Republicans and my retirement savings takes even more another economic hits and merging resources would not only provide an offset for taxes and utilities, but companionship. In NJ, a bunch of seniors would join resources and live in the same house. Not getting married, but more like friends with benefits too.
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Walleye
(44,728 posts)I have absolutely no social life. Im having a little pain in my gut its worrying me. Seeing the doctor on Wednesday. Its really tough when theres nobody to talk you off the ledge. I would like to give you suggestions or advice but I have none. Just remember to do what you need to do to stay alive and keep hope alive
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Healing vibes on the way to you, my friend. 💓💓💓
Someone is always on here at DU, & we talk each other off the figurative ledge quite frequently.
Walleye
(44,728 posts)Definitely keeping me from going off the deep end here.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Ignore the news. Seriously. Play a game on your phone, read books, take up a hobby. Just ignore the news!
My reactions to borris & natasha illegally squatting in our wh has taken a serious toll on my health.
No teeee veee. Ok?
Walleye
(44,728 posts)KS Toronado
(23,727 posts)send me a DU mail.
Or get in a fight with...
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True Blue American
(18,579 posts)One of the reasons so many of us migrate to these boards.
But I have found a big, new world out there! So many things we would never know about.
Join an exercise class., go to Church, a Senior Center. Volunteer fo any thing you are capable of.
I found myself sitting morre after I retired. Force your self. You will find hundreds just like you
elocs
(24,486 posts)I'm friendly and have no problem with the social sprint but have no interest in the social marathon. I desire to be alone but I'm never lonely.
Haggard Celine
(17,807 posts)People in my family used to comment on how I was happy to play all by myself. I prefer to be alone most of the time now. It takes all kinds of people to make up the world. Some are gifted orators and some are computer experts, and on and on. Maybe our seclusion fits into a greater pattern, a big picture that is gradually being created by a master artist. Maybe we'll find out when we die.
elocs
(24,486 posts)I'm an introvert on steroids, but I'm not shy. Waiting in a slow line at a store I can turn and make a funny comment to the stranger behind me and actually have them laugh, but I'm able to do that because no only is it for just a moment, I'll likely never see them again.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I can get along with people and socialize if I have to but I prefer to be alone.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)But have never been lonely. Too many interesting things to do
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)alone as in no significant other? or alone as in few friends.
there is a loners group here on du that could use fresh participation....
as for significant other...when the mental cost is greater than the return......
just hope i have better luck next time
3Hotdogs
(15,339 posts)I turned 80 in October. Two or three days a week, I am out on trails with my hiking club.
Fridays, I am in the Great Swamp (N.J.), building or repairing boardwalks clearing trails. People to work with and enjoy company of.
There are libraries, schools and many other organizations that need help.
Yeah, I know. Not everything works for everybody.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)together with family & friends often. Join a senior center and participate in activities. Mingle with the people around you as much as possible. Stay connected via video phone, Facetime, Zoom, etc. It's a known fact that lack of social interaction is the #1 reason for physical & mental health decline, and things can spiral out of control and escalate quickly.
I empathize with you as i've seen it happen to my own mother in her latter years, and to some older ladies i know now. There are some people in my local Dems women clubs who live alone and are experiencing the same loneliness. If you know elderly people in such a case, reach out to them often and let them know to reach you when they feel down or need help. It can save & prolong their life, and make it happier, healthier, and more meaningful for both them and you. We are all in this existence we call life together. Let's make it more bearable and meaningful for each other.
LymphocyteLover
(9,814 posts)True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Emile
(42,199 posts)I do have a lot of company during the warm months. Mostly young people wanting to go fishing or swimming in my pond.
Sugarmaggie
(151 posts)Opens the door for building new relationships. Big lift of your spirit by helping others. Praying for you.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Many have games, luncheons, music programs, educational lectures, & arts & crafts / chat events!
Dunno about yours, but mine only charges $12/year for dues & nearly everything is free.
Also check with your local Council on Aging for social opportunitues.
I'vd found that many of the folks at my senior center are widows, seemingly friendly folks open to new friendships.
And you're not alone. Someone is always on here at DU.
Ps - mask up!
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)The 1st videos are avail immediately after a brief, nonintrusive registration. Why not give it a try?
onetexan
(13,913 posts)thank you for posting Sheltie
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)It's really great stuff! very popular. People love it!
dlk
(13,245 posts)I recommended it to close friends and family. It helps refocus your perspective and isnt complicated.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)It's a lifestyle.
dlk
(13,245 posts)She had a newsletter, thats sadly discontinued in 2023 but also has a podcast, The Happiness Lab. As far as happiness goes, it truly is the little things. And now Im gong to brew and savor a really good cup of coffee.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)It really is about the small things!
One great, free way to jump start a positive mind set is to start a gratitude journal.
List & number 3 things you'rd grateful for just before bed. List 3, then reread entire list & go go sleep.
dlk
(13,245 posts)It helps refocus our minds, especially in these chaotic times. Ive done a gratitude journal, periodically
For now, I like doing a breathing exercise and short meditation before bed.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Enjoy!
orangecrush
(30,179 posts)Raine
(31,174 posts)and laugh no matter how low I'm feeling. It seems like they always know when I need my mood lightened.
rubbersole
(11,209 posts)My 7yo Havanese is incredible company. We walk twice a day and he has dog friends that come over to "play" (sleep on the couch). It is a commitment but I won't be without a dog as long as I'm able to care for one.
leftyladyfrommo
(19,995 posts)japple
(10,459 posts)There are tons of lonely dogs and cats that need socialization and the humans who run the organizations always need extra hands.
I hope you find something to lift your depression. Have you seen your doctor lately? You might need extra help during the dark months of winter.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Beachnutt
(8,900 posts)I have been living alone since 2015 and have good days and lonely days.
Marthe48
(23,143 posts)so do most of my friends. During Covid, we started a morning message text. Just said good morning to each other, just to make sure all was well. I spend the 1st few minutes of the day saying hi. I'm ok with text messages, checking fb, and weekly calls with my long-time best friend. I'm still involved peripherally with a volunteer org.
My husband and I collectd for over 40 years. It took awhile after he passed for me to act, but I started a booth in an antique/vintage mall in Aug. and it has really been a boost. I am downsizing, meet people, and have a renewed interest in researching things in our collection.
If you are able, get out and take short walks, try to see the small deights in the world. Turn on your lights, in case you have Seasonal Affective Disorder. Hope you find a way to cope!
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Marthe48
(23,143 posts)and I really appreciate your kindness
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)True Blue American
(18,579 posts)For about 10 years now. After a life time of collecting everything. Now am giving so others can use. Gets easier all the time.
Marthe48
(23,143 posts)I've always given things away, but we got more and more. My guideline now is to keep heirlooms, gifts, and things we loved. The rest is going, one way or another. When I'm sorting through boxes, I feel like Steve Martin in the jerk:
(this is all I need)so I try not to take too much stuff out of the boxes to keep
jmbar2
(7,973 posts)Or become a substitute teacher's aide.
The schools here are begging for teacher's aides and volunteers, especially in Special Ed classes. The kids are adorable and need extra one-on-one attention. You can choose how much time to spend there.
It's been a great experience for me so far. You're bone tired when you get home, but it's very uplifting, and you meet a bunch of other teachers and aides, so you form a community pretty quickly.
Keep us posted and good luck!
leftyladyfrommo
(19,995 posts)It's just not safe to be around groups right now.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Your senior center likely has zoom groups / classes you can join!
Laurian
(2,593 posts)My husband died in 2021, though not of COVID. His Alzheimers disease had imposed a form of isolation prior to the pandemic, but being his caregiver gave me purpose and some form of companionship even in the midst of the pandemic. Now, the aloneness is stark and depression is real.
We moved to be near family during his illness, so I have few friends/associations in this location. (I was never one with a large circle of friends, mostly just one or two true confidants.). I make a conscious effort to not impose myself on my adult children too often. I want them to be free to live their own lives, not burdened by my situation.
While suggestions to become active in the community or seek out friendships sounds like a reasonable solution, such steps are nearly impossible for those in the grip of depression.
I find the dark and dreary days of winter aggravating factors, but look forward to Spring for some relief.
leftyladyfrommo
(19,995 posts)weather gets too cold.
Walleye
(44,728 posts)True Blue American
(18,579 posts)I have it every fall.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Get a treadmill & a light box!
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)The Y pool 3 mornings a week, exercise class, then walking in water for another 40, 50 minutes. The equivalent of 2 miles on land!
MLAA
(19,738 posts)They also have a workout area with some exercise machines. I enjoy the walk, it isnt very crowded but some regulars to say hello to and Ive noticed several of them like to chat with fellow attendees. The age group for walkers is mostly 60 plus crowd with a few younger folks occasionally. They also offer childrens programs, so some days it really picks you up to hear the childrens laughter and energy playing games which can be seen down on the first floor from the walking track on the second floor. If it gets more than a few people walking spaced out, I wear a mask.
Sending you a big hug!
Walleye
(44,728 posts)Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)I have things to keep me occupied, I have my 2 cats and I read. Going to the store, doctors and family gatherings are all I leave my apartment for.
Alpeduez21
(2,048 posts)It helps make us as humans feel better.
Occupy yourself. Take that course Sheltielover linked to. It's something to do and think about other than lonliness.
I'm trying to learn to memorize a deck of cards. Sometimes I use youtube to try and learn sign language.
What interests or hobbies do you have? There are groups or forums online where you can chat and communicate with people.
Keep doing what you've just done. Post something on DU. These are some seriously supportive people!
Walking thru the farmers market with a mask on, outside and vaccinated is a VERY low risk activity. As an example of something to do.
My mantra is 'you can't think yourself into right action but you can act yourself into right thinking.' Got it from AA but it applies to a lot of areas.
If your loneliness is trending towards depression taking action is doubly important. It's super easy to not do anything when depressed. DO SOMETHING! Something small like simple yoga or taking a short walk and then tell us what you've done. I'm excited to learn about your journey.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Also, all 50 states offer some form of free classes for seniors. Spring semester is just starting! Find an interest & sign up fof a live zoom class!
leftyladyfrommo
(19,995 posts)I can't afford all that stuff.
SheltieLover
(80,303 posts)Same as you are communicating here!
cally
(21,865 posts)My husband is immunocompromised and undergoing treatment so we have isolated. It's getting to me. Thank you for posting this because it is motivating me to join some of the activities I found but put off. I found online book clubs at library and a walking group at Senior Center. I have reasons to not join both but I think I need to try.
I do volunteer at two organizations. One I lead tours outside at a Native American site. The second I work in the collections of a small, very small, local museum. I go when the museum is not open to the public so very few people are around. Both have slight risk but I need to have outside interests.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)70sEraVet
(5,465 posts)I do some research and entries for findagrave.com.
It started with discovering that there is an old, neglected African American cemetery in our tiny town. Not many of the graves have markers. I went on findagrave, and found that some of the names had been entered, but others werent. So I started doing entries, and it snowballs. I would enter the name of, say, a husband, then start looking for his wife. Search for death certificates in familysearch.com or ancestry.com, hopefully the certificate would list the cemetery.
I admit, it sounds like a morose hobby. But I really get hooked on the feeling that I am uniting families, and preventing people from being forgotten.
In warmer months, a friend and I work at cleaning up the cemetery. Sometimes we find markers -- those small, aluminum markers that come from the funeral homes, or even headstones that have fallen over and covered in leaf debris.
Sorry, leftylady, for getting carried away. You were asking about being lonely. I forgot all about that!
Raine
(31,174 posts)I'm sure it's appreciated by families of the loved ones. 💕 A few yrs back I discovered that someone had listed my mother on Find a Grave. It wasn't that my mother was forgotten or lost or anything like that. When my mother died there was no Find a Grave site as far as I know. At some point I knew it existed but just never thought to list her on it. I was really touched when I discovered that some anonymous person had taken the time to put her on it. 🥲 It was probably someone like you.
So thank you for doing this for others.
70sEraVet
(5,465 posts)But I know that some people doing the entries are home-bound, doing research solely online, and are entering HUNDREDS of graves EVERY WEEK!
I have too much going on, to be dedicated at that level.
mahina
(20,638 posts)Here in the islands there is an ad hoc group that gathers on Friday mornings to clean up sacred places. Many are in urban areas but others are isolated. Its organized the one really special kanaka wahine. I am very sure that the ancestors will treat her with aloha one day in the distant future.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Scrivener7
(59,462 posts)whathehell
(30,460 posts)I'm going to take some of the tips offered here.
twodogsbarking
(18,713 posts)Escurumbele
(4,088 posts)Go out, meet people, when you learn to be alone meeting people will become much easier, for one you will learn that not all people are worth meeting, even less getting close to.
Not sure where you live, but look up fairs, concerts, things you have always liked to go to, museums, and you will find that in no time all is well.
I recommend you get the tapes from these people, they helped me a lot at a time when I needed it.
https://www.abraham-hicks.com/
She is fantastic, her outlook to life is very pure and positive, it definitely helped me calm down when I needed it. A guy who worked for me brought me the cassette tapes, I listened to them and in no time I was calm and handling the situations that came to me on a daily basis with a better outlook. "All is well" is her motto.
Another thing that has helped me recently, and I won't go in detail, but some friends send me a little stone with the following encryption on it: "This too shall pass", I kept it in my pocket and when the situation arose I just kept rubbing it and thinking about those words, it made it so much easier. Do believe that your current situation "Shall Pass", you just need to work on it.
Good luck, I know its not easy, but it is very doable.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)Join a local choir if your voice is your sole instrument.
Making music with others not only dissolves all of the empty nest effects, but it is also amazingly healing for mental and emotional health and well being.
I started a couple of different music meet ups with neighbors who never fancied themselves as musically inclined. one is singing and the other group is instrumental. Some of the participants who started with one group have since joined with the other.
It's really been a very rewarding experience. It actually gets me high in a manner of speaking.
Give it a shot, your world will change!
usonian
(25,142 posts)I am living alone at 74, and these days of bouts of wind and rainstorms, I ended up making home repairs when the rain let up, perched on an extension ladder with my tool belt.
Long story short, though I live in a spectacularly beautiful location, take thousands of great photographs, and get better at piano daily, it's my Buddhist discussion group that helps me and supports me, mostly via zoom these days, but since this still is a world of people, I need to be able to meet with friends on a 5 minute drive or walk, not a 50 mile trek through mountain roads, so I am planning to move.
A neighbor took part in a local orchestra, and got a ride the 12 miles or so to and from "downtown". Her driver was a bit erratic, which worried her. The next day, he had a stroke driving and plowed head-on to a big truck on the two-lane main road, killing himself, but fortunately, not the truck driver.
All that said, the group is both a safety net and encouragement to lead a happier life. More about this later/elsewhere on DU.
Pyryck
(99 posts)As a lifelong introvert I cherish the moments of solitude I am able to provide for myself. I tend to get depressed when I don't get enough time for solitude.
Long ago I learned that I am never alone or lonely - there's always ME, MYSELF and I. And the three of us are always finding new and interesting things to delve into.
Thank YOU, Lady, for reaching out to all of us that have responded...proving that you aren't really alone, just maybe incommunicado for a little while.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)Im a 39 year old disabled man who lives with my parents. Ive lost all contact with my peers over the past ten years so my parents are really my only friends and company at this point. I miss going out with people my age, dating, all that good stuff. I am glad that I have awesome parents who will do anything for me.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)I'm lonely, sad, and bored.
JuJuChen
(2,253 posts)when even all the extracurricular "keep yourself busy" doesn't cut the mustard yes, you fall into depression
mahina
(20,638 posts)This one brought us some comfort. I hope you find comfort as well. My crisis go to is lie down, relax, inhale four seconds, hold 7, exhale 8. Repeat till you feel better. Drink a ton of water because stress hormones can be diluted.
Go swimming in the ocean if you can every day and if you cant find a way to swim and be in the sunshine. Itll help you sleep, which is really key.
Also, put right hand over heart, skin to skin.
Anyway, been here since 2003 and never learned how to post an image but your post made me want to learn how to do it. Good luck buddy, aloha.https://imgur.com/a/pSGo9fh
/responding more to the depression part then not being alone part
Scrivener7
(59,462 posts)I like being alone, but during Covid I was doing a little too much of it. I had a few moments like the ones you are describing and realized it was time to do something about it.
Emotional discomfort is always telling us to do something, and often that something is not very hard to do. Start small: one afternoon a week of doing something that appeals to you and puts you among people. I bet it doesn't stay one afternoon for long.
Lots of good suggestions in this thread.
leftyladyfrommo
(19,995 posts)people do. I do walk at the park in the early morning before the crowds arrive. Some mornings it's too cold. Abd I have a bad knee so I can't do a lot of physical stuff.
It's harder when joints are old. I don't like water so I haven't been swimming in probably 50 years.
I eat breakfast at Perkins and I get to talk to the other regulars. That helps. Most of them are my age and they are in the same boat.
As soon as this current flu and Covid calm down I will feel better about going out.
Thank you for all your responses. Majes me feel better.
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