I will be checking both CNN and M$NBComcast at 6:00am to see if the gun attacks on

[malaise]

Democrats by a losing ReTHUG ex-con in New Mexico is the #1 story.
This is terrorism.
That is all.

[SheltieLover]

1. It will be interesting to see if they keep him in custody.

He clearly is a danger to the community.

Pos!

[malaise]

2. CNN starts with football then Santos - M$NBComcast starts with Santos

not a word on this terrorist

[SheltieLover]

8. Media is seriously lacking, to put it mildly

Ty for sharing.

I hopd they charge this pos with terrorism! And attempted murder.

Thx for sharing!

[gab13by13]

40. The MSM is doing exactly what its right wing domestic oligarch owners want it to do.

The cable news anchors read from teleprompters. I don't get aggravated now since I only watch Nicolle.

[Samrob]

77. THIS! They are as responsible for our dying democracy as any other player in this nation.

[LittleGirl]

3. CNN is covering it at 6:01. eom

[malaise]

4. So CNN has it second then - they started with football

I switched back to M$NBComcast - they haven't covered it yet

[SheltieLover]

9. Football? Seriously?

You are doing a great job of reminding me why I quit watching tv years ago.

[malaise]

5. CNN is now Biden, Biden Biden

M$NBComcast is football football football
Back to the OZ Open for me

[SuperCoder]

11. Correction

Anti-Biden, Anti-Biden, Anti-Biden

[malaise]

12. True

[nightwing1240]

31. Yes and their website is even worse!

Just ridiculous. I turned off the TV and am avoiding CNN online

[MyMission]

48. I googled "republican candidate shoots at democrats"

And saw a few headlines about it, from NY times, Guardian, NPR, BBC which all said he was arrested over or for shootings....but cnn headline said allegedly orchestrating shooting. WTF?!?!

I don't watch the news, but I read multiple websites. Their website has gotten worse in recent months, new folks in charge. I avoid them online too.

[nightwing1240]

58. No kidding! CNN going for low hanging fruit

aka Faux Lite these days and it is disgusting

[patphil]

73. Pena hired several men to do the shootings, but he was personally involved in at least one.

https://www.koat.com/article/albuquerque-police-update-high-profile-case/42526343

[Rhiannon12866]

6. It was the #1 story on Rachel Maddow, she broke the story:

Police arrest disgruntled Republican candidate in connection with shootings in New Mexico - Rachel Maddow
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017797979

Rachel Maddow reports breaking news of the arrest of failed Republican candidate for New Mexico state legislature, Solomon Peña, in connection with a string of shootings at properties associated with Democrats. - Aired on 01/16/2023.


GOP, embracing extremists and facing investigations, attacks law and ethics enforcement - Rachel Maddow
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017798068

Rep. Jamie Raskin, top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, talks with Rachel Maddow about breaking news of a failed Republican state legislature candidate being arrested in connection with shootings at the homes of local Democrats, how the Republican embrace of Trump-supporting extremists has compromised the party, and whether Jim Jordan's new committee is designed to interfere in January 6th investigations and ongoing prosecutions. - Aired on 01/16/2023.

[malaise]

7. DUer deminks broke it before Rachel

I mentioned her opening on his thread

Thanks for your great links as always 😀

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217565754

[Rhiannon12866]

13. Well, Rachel led with this story, first I heard of it

Ali Velshi was in for Chris Hayes before Rachel and he led with the debt celing story, you'll remember he used to have a financial show with Stephanie Ruhle. But I'm guessing that you saw them both...

[malaise]

15. We've been getting drips for almost a week

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217548430

These were terrorist attacks by a well known MAGAT ex-con and ReTHUG candidate and his cronies.

[Rhiannon12866]

18. Ah ha! Great catch! I missed that one!

So you were the one to break the story here!

[malaise]

20. I think someone else might have broken it

In. Reading News before me

[patphil]

72. Rachel spent a lot of time on it. It is a big deal.

My daughter lives in Albuquerque, and she alerted us about it as soon as it hit the local news there.
Since it was Rachal's lead, I would assume that is why Chris Hayes took the debt ceiling story.

Latest I've read:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/us/solomon-pena-arrested-new-mexico-shootings/index.html

[Rhiannon12866]

74. Wow! Excellent reporting on this story, it's the leading story nationally now

Along, of course, with the debt limit - and Ali Velshi was in for Chris Hayes last night and he's the best on financial news, he and Stephanie Ruhle previously has an MSNBC devoted to that topic.

[SheltieLover]

10. Thx, Rhi!

I sure hope they keep this guy behind bars! He just does not belong in civilized society!

[Rhiannon12866]

14. Good Grief! Even Republicans running for office now turn out to be criminals!

And then we have those currently in office...

[SheltieLover]

16. Party of criminals fof sure!

I sure hope SC Smith gets this mess cleaned up!

And this guy, imo, should never spend another day of his life as a free man.

This is like street gang / meth head behavior to hire a crew of people to terrorize your opponents!

And will rwnj media hail him as a hero like that rotten Rittenhaus?

[malaise]

17. The mob party

This is mob behavior led by the Slobfather and his goons

[SheltieLover]

19. Absolutely!

No doubt about it!

[Rhiannon12866]

21. I posted on another thread if only he'd been removed after the first impeachment!

The Republicans became empowered after that. If he'd been removed he couldn't have run in 2020, he wouldn't have invited the insurrectionists to the Capitol and wouldn't still be claiming he'd won even two years later. Not that he wouldn't have still caused trouble, but hopefully he'd only be a blight on history by now.

[malaise]

22. They created their own mess

Greed, power and racism led to this

[Rhiannon12866]

28. And he's guilty of all of them - so who thought he'd be an acceptable candidate?!

[malaise]

29. Remember McCarthy admitted they had info on Santos

It's their modus operandi

&t=36s

[Rhiannon12866]

33. "If he was a Democrat, the Republicans would be calling for his head..."

Of course. But he's a Republican and they need his vote - not matter what it turns out he's done.

[SheltieLover]

25. How about if he'd been locked up many years earlier for his crimes?

That's the problem. Our society celebrates & rewards criminL behavior!

[Rhiannon12866]

30. You're absolutely right

I still remember the first time I ran across him. He was a guest on David Letterman. I almost changed the channel since I wasn't interested, but Dave was having an argument with this jerk over "the mosque at Ground Zero," if you remember that controversy. And this bigot didn't approve - when what it was supposed to be was a community center. Dave (who always said he knew nothing about politics) came out on top of the argument, good for him, but his "guest" was definitely an offensive, bigoted jerk!

[SheltieLover]

91. I recall the first timeI saw the pos. Resulted in immediate, extreme revulsion.

Ad for the apprentice.

I cannot comprehend how anyone could stand to be in his sphere.

[Rhiannon12866]

94. From what I know about that show, TFG was made to look like a "successful businessman" by the network

And those who watched it believed that's who he was in real life - and still do! It was completely fictional, but these "supporters" couldn't tell the difference between a TV game show and real life...

[SheltieLover]

96. My only thought was "who the fk would kow tow that prick?"

[Rhiannon12866]

97. It was a TV show, complete fiction - but people bought it as real life!

[SheltieLover]

105. I guess, but still.

My instant hatred of him was so immediate & intense...

[Rhiannon12866]

106. David Letterman put him in his place, no one took him seriously

I quit watching news during the 2016 campaign since he was on all the time and he was so offensive I couldn't stand him. I figured I'd start watching again after the campaign was over and I'd never have to see or hear him again - so much for that.

[SheltieLover]

108. Good for Letterman!

I know tfg's shit show continues...

[Rhiannon12866]

109. Whenever Rachel Maddow was on, Dave called her "the smartest person in the world"

Since she knew all about politics and campaigns and he claimed to know nothing. But he sure put TFG in his place. He also made fun of him because TFG brought some neckties that he was selling. So Dave turned them over and pointed out the "Made in China" tag. Dave knew a lot more than he gave himself credit for and he definitely got the better of TFG.

[malaise]

82. THIS

[SheltieLover]

92. I cannot stand the slob

Or any qpukes.

Or their boss, pootin.

[ancianita]

101. That's what media want us to believe, in order to force us to accept a "new normal."

Don't believe the hype that the big six media spread about what "we" in America are like.
Media profit dogma: if it bleeds, it leads.

[SheltieLover]

104. Zero tolerance for liars & bs, so I've not watched tv for years.

[bdamomma]

81. it's a

freaking deadly cult, and they are destroying the country.

malaise.

[SheltieLover]

93. It sure is! Their god is money.

[Cosmocat]

23. Make one small change to this story and it would be COMPLETELY different

Solomon Pena, a failed Democratic candidate for New Mexico state legislature is connection with a string of shootings at properties associated with Republicans ...

THAT shit would be all anyone would be talking about, how Ds were kicking off a civil war and Ds across the country would be faced with intense scrutiny.

[Rhiannon12866]

26. You're right

And, as with George Santos, are the Republicans going to try to find some way to change the facts and defend this guy or will he be sacrificed and they'll try to forget and/or minimize this story. '

[malaise]

27. Correct

You nailed it

[mtngirl47]

24. ABC 2nd headline...1st is mass shooting in Florida n/t

[duhneece]

32. I am right there with you

And we have Westboro-type thugs at Alamogordo high school.

We are on edge

[malaise]

34. Dems need to make this a big

fucking deal

[duhneece]

56. Weirdly, we are having an internal struggle at local Dem level

This March, the New Mexico Democratic Party elects a new County Chair and Ward Chairs.

One local faction thinks our current leadership is too focused on the threat of violence. I’ve been working hard to retain our Chair.

In a similar vein but different-a Westboro-type group has been at our high school. The school has been great, using buses to block them and we have great local pushback proving drinks, chips, fruit snacks for students away from the idiots. Police did nothing but provide them an escort back to where they stay. They aren’t local.

We have domestic terrorists and I’m hearing nothing. Shit hell piss damn.

[malaise]

57. Keep up the good work

[Roy Rolling]

35. Strategy and Tactics

Make it a win-win.

When they don’t make it a headline, ask “why the coverup?”

I’ve got to play the hand that’s dealt me.

Go on now. Lively up yourself. 😜

[malaise]

36. Dems need one central meme

The ReTHUG party supports domestic terrorism

Then break it down for all spheres - how does domestic terrorism affect your daily lives?

[Danascot]

37. Apparently he paid a couple of other people

plus he did the shooting in one or more instances, I had the impression initially that he was a lone wolf. No word whether the others have been arrested.

Solomon Peña, who lost his 2022 run for state House District 14, is accused of paying and conspiring with four men to shoot at the homes of two state legislators and two county commissioners, Albuquerque Police said.

“It is believed he is the mastermind” behind the shootings, Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said during a news conference.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/us/solomon-pena-arrested-new-mexico-shootings/index.html

[lambchopp59]

38. Complicity in the Fox Noise civil warmongering

All it takes for evil to triumph is good people to do nothing.
Fox started calling for the culture war-- keyword WAR, long ago. Blowing the age old 2nd amendment trope way out of proportion is intentional.
Shouldn't the likes of these fux be charged with inciting violence at this point? Complicity in murder cases and wanton acts like this? It's all gone far beyond the "fire in crowded theater" free speech exclusion at this point.
I wouldn't mind seeing the likes of Bill-O and his culture war campaign now repeated ad nauseum by his emulators behind bars for inciting WAR for God's sake. At least there certainly should be legislation considered about moderating violence incitement as blatant as Fox has done for decades now.

[brooklynite]

39. Why would you expect it to be?

The suspect, a minor Republican candidate, shot at houses, rather than people, killed nobody, hit nobody. It's a political story, but hardly page 1 news.

[gab13by13]

41. You better go back and insert that sarcasm thingy

people won't get it.

[onenote]

43. Its page a page 1 story on DU, so many DUers think it should be page 1 everywhere

You're right, of course. It's a political story, but not a 'stop the presses' story.

Even MSNBC has it "below the fold" on its page.

[uponit7771]

44. "...shot at houses ..." cause he knew they were empty? if not then yeah, you're missing the ...

... saracasm thingy

[malaise]

49. Some minor players tried to kidnap

the governor of Michigan - they failed. How was that covered

[brooklynite]

117. the key words being "The Governor of Michigan"

[treestar]

51. He could have killed someone

Did he know they were empty?

[brooklynite]

60. "He could have" but he didn't. That's what reduces the significance.

[treestar]

61. intent matters

attempted murder or murder. Just not happening to get someone killed doesn't make him less guilty.

[onenote]

79. attempted aggravated assault v attempted murder

Aggravated assault: Aggravated assault occurs when one person causes, or attempts to cause, serious bodily injury to another person. The definition of a serious bodily injury is one that creates a substantial risk of death or that could result in permanent disfigurement, or a loss or serious impairment of a body organ or function.

The difference between attempted murder and aggravated assault is mainly intent. To prove a defendant is guilty of attempted murder, the prosecution must prove that they had a specific intent to take the life of their victim.

[treestar]

119. there's also depraved indifference

shooting at a residence is enough to show that.

[Doc Sportello]

62. One bullet went through the bedroom of a victim's 10-y-o daughter

Who was in there sleeping. Yeah, no bid deal, no one was killed. Good grief. It was only by luck no one was killed. Not due to the shooters taking care not to kill someone. Good grief.

[Cha]

66. Court papers indicate Solomon Pena's intent was to harm victims

(snip)

A witness, who police wrote is expected to cooperate in the case, told police Peña wanted people he hired for the shootings "to aim lower and shoot around 8 p.m. because occupants would more likely not be laying down" in the homes. Peña was present for the shooting at Lopez's residence, the witness claimed.

https://news.yahoo.com/court-papers-reveal-details-republican-144210491.html

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217567493

[Polly Hennessey]

63. They were not empty. One house had a ten

year old daughter sleeping in bedroom as bullets whizzed through.

[treestar]

64. OMG

sheer luck. He put that child at risk.

Reminds me of law school explanations of the difference between voluntary negligence and willful and depraved indifference. Shooting at a freight train vs. shooting at a passenger train. Shooting at a barn vs. shooting at a residence.

That's depraved indifference. And the other issue of this reaction to losing an election makes it newsworthy too.

[IronLionZion]

55. It's violence and intimidation against civilians to pursue a political agenda

[housecat]

83. Not much different from Putin murdering Ukrainian civilians

[IronLionZion]

103. Putin must have mental illness but no political agenda

I would absolutely classify the Russian war on Ukraine as terrorism but a lot of white people are not comfortable acknowledging white terrorism in any form. I've heard absolutely bonkers arguments on DU about this issue even when it's for RWers on trial for violence against American citizens in pursuit of extremist political agendas.

[housecat]

123. Sadly that's true.

[The Magistrate]

107. This Looks A Bit Rote, Sir

An instance of duckspeak, though not doubleplusgood duckspeak. More a reflexive dampening of spirits than actually an informed, thoughtful comment.

A simple question: when was the last time a losing candidate for state legislature opened fire on people who counted votes, or belonged to the other party?

At the very least, it is a man bites dog tale, with guns and felons and drugs, too....

[Lovie777]

42. The news story of a GQP taking pot shots at Democratic officials ....

and hiring additional shooters, one with fentanyl, conflicts with the coverage of President Biden's story where he and his aides have been cooperating with the DOJ, F.B.I, et al.

Apparently, they can't do both.

[IronLionZion]

45. If white, it's mental illness and they don't have a political agenda

if brown, it's terrorism.

[malaise]

50. this one was also an ex con

That is all

[IronLionZion]

53. Solomon Pena is a losing GOP candidate

angry about his November loss, so he's brown enough for terrorism and GOP enough for them to blame Antifa or some nonsense like that.

[treestar]

52. Don't know that applies here

The guy's name looks Hispanic.

[IronLionZion]

54. Hispanic GOP candidate who lost in November

solving problems in a very GOP way, with guns.

[Vinca]

46. When I woke up at 7 I turned on the TV and didn't see a thing. If Rachel hadn't

covered it last night, I wouldn't even know about it. But, hey. How about those Biden documents. Even MSNBC had a "Breaking News" headline yesterday when the last documents were found last Thursday.

[mopinko]

47. it's about 1/3 of the way down wapo's front page.

disgraceful.

[malaise]

65. Nicole Wallace opens with this

one of the bullets hit a wall in a child's bedroom

[bdamomma]

87. yes that's true

they found wall dust on the floor, violence/hate/fear is a terrorist tool.

[Hekate]

71. Front page is front page. Also, Nicolle W is on it.

Los Angeles Times has the Tulare County drug cartel massacre on page 1, also our water woes.

See this post if curious about Tulare County. It really was a cartel assassination, not just some random deal gone bad.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17568315

[malaise]

75. Chris Hayes starts with it

Good
One of the targets will be on with Chris Hayes

[Hekate]

76. It never ceases to amaze me how many DUers profess to hate MSNBC because "they" don't...

…report news the “right way,” and because “all” their reporters are corporate shills. (Oh, and Katy Tur is a moron, wherever the hell that came from.)

In just one thread we’ve seen mention of Chris Hayes, Nicolle Wallace, and Rachel Maddow all giving timely and complete coverage of this hugely important developing story.

Sorry malaise, I just couldn’t restrain myself.

[malaise]

115. Only JoeScum didn't cover it yesterday

and why should you restrain yourself.

[Kaleva]

59. Only a small percentage of US adults watch cable news

and that includes Fox

[DeeDeeNY]

67. Rachel covered this story in depth last night

[malaise]

70. Yes she did

One of the officials attacked is on with Hoy Reid now

[onenote]

68. Lead story on ABC nightly news

[malaise]

69. Ari too and now Joy Reid

It is now the leading national story
Joy has good coverage on now

[nolabear]

78. Lead on Chris Hayes at 5

I can’t help but wonder why this kind of thing is tolerated in politics when it never would be among regular folks. Continuously egging people on to assault and try to kill your “enemies” is actionable, right?

[malaise]

84. It's beyond crazy

They are the domestic terrorist pary

[KY_EnviroGuy]

80. MSM's reporters are seriously busy looking for expired McDonald's coupons in Joe's home closets.

They're ready for the new, fresh Rethug scandal of the week.

That's all,,,,,,,,,,

[malaise]

85. They are actually covering this today

What a surprise 😀

[SCantiGOP]

86. It was the lead story on NBC Nightly News

n/t

[bdamomma]

88. Alex

Wagner is discussing the topic now.

[Cha]

90. Good.. bc I think it's Important news!

TY!

[SYFROYH]

89. Well, are you entertained?

[malaise]

114. ReTHUS terrorism is not entertaining

That is all

[SYFROYH]

124. Of course, it isn't. I was referring to the news shows in your OP.

[keithbvadu2]

95. 'Second Amendment Solutions'

'Second Amendment Solutions'

Becoming a more popular meme amongst MAGAs/conservatives.

Louie Gohmert Says ‘Yeah’ When Asked If Conservatives Are Getting Closer to ‘Second Amendment Solutions At Some Point’

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/louie-gohmert-second-amendment-solutions/

[malaise]

110. This is serious shit

ReTHUGs support domestic terrorists

[BobTheSubgenius]

98. Damned right it is.

I'd be very interested in how any MSM outlets could ever frame this as a "both sides do it" event.

[malaise]

111. Great post

[BobTheSubgenius]

120. Thank you!

it's a very meaty topic, with a lot to chew on.

[Cha]

99. State Sen Linda Lopez on her home being Shot UP..

She's a brilliant advocate for this being Significant NEWS!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017798260#post1

[malaise]

112. Thanks for the link

[Cha]

122. YVW.. This Is Significatnt!

[orangecrush]

100. Not even on CNN news scroll now

This is horse shit.

Removing CNN as a news source, now

[ancianita]

102. Listen. New Mexico has been blue in the West as long as California, and I can tell you this

from the experience of my son, who's lived out there during the trumpcult years and is Democratic party co-chair of his county:

They got rid of Couy Griffin. They're the only state that ended all qualified immunity for police statewide.

New Mexico has been on this terrorism crap for as long as it's been happening, and Albuquerque and Santa Fe won't put up with this shit.

Right wing oligarchic media propaganda continues, but Americans are developing good bullshit detectors.

[malaise]

113. Most excellent my friend

[Emile]

116. Nothing on Morning Joe this morning so far!

[Emile]

118. 2 hours in Morning Joe and just now are talking about it. eom

[malaise]

121. Missed that

Thanks