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Would he be held in contempt?
Isn't his name-calling and threats against the Special Counsel a similar offense? Is it not an obstruction of justice?
How does he keep getting away with this crap?
edhopper
(33,479 posts)those in power have allowed him. Pure and simple.
right. He probably got away with things as a child and it continued into adulthood and nobody truly went after him. He will pay for his misdeeds and crimes in the end.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)I think he will end up completely mad and holed up in his gold plated fortress.
He's so vengeful that he's really dangerous. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't had people killed. He would get off on that.
gab13by13
(21,256 posts)The people doing that now are courageous people because they know they will get death threats.
Fani Willis in Fulton County had to have extra security for herself, and she bought bullet proof vests for her prosecutors.
Until one is speaking truth to evil power one does not have a clue to the intimidation, the pressure that they face. I got a taste of it being on borough council in a town of 2,500 people. I spent many sleepless nights and yes there were death threats so I can appreciate what pressure these prosecutors are under. It is easy to sit back and armchair Quarterback.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Those in Security were really concerned that Russians were out to get Biden. And Biden does not trust the SS he was assigned. Bringing back his old group from his time as VP.
I also heard an author this mornin who worked with the Biden Adminstration to make sure there was a transition without Trump knowing. Trump even fired the WH staff so there would be no one to greet the Bidens!
That shows you what a sleazy, revengeful, Little piece of manure Trump is.
FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)They got replaced with ChumpHumpers who were all on board with it.
Don't forget that a lot of the WH staffers were out for other reasons after the November 2020 election. Several were out sick with Covid, or they said they were. Several knew the election was lost and they were going to lose their jobs. So they took paid holiday leave and started looking for new jobs. Not everyone supported Chump's attempted coup.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)That was supposed to greet Biden. They walked up the drive after the election, could not get it.
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,434 posts)OMGWTF
(3,941 posts)due to his Covid BS.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Give him enough rope to hang himself.
I guess they want to hang him from the Empire State Building by the amount of rope they are letting him play out.
randr
(12,409 posts)He will leave a crater and take all his minions with him.
onenote
(42,581 posts)Some judges are more tolerant of outbursts than others.
ShepKat
(380 posts)the more you engage, the more you regret it.
He will not stop flapping his yap til he's dead.
BUT- that's not an all bad thing.
operation 'let him speak' works against him more often, i think.
keep talking, you stable genius swooner... *GAG*
KS Toronado
(17,147 posts)Wait until Jack Smith starts getting death threats if he hasn't already and watch Jack hang that on him.
gab13by13
(21,256 posts)jaxexpat
(6,799 posts)One would have thought the recording of Trump shaking down the Georgia secretary of state would get it to the courtroom by now. It hasn't, I guess because they figure the Georgia courts will try it and if he's convicted it can always get to the USSC where it will be overturned.
There will be no real calling to account for Trump in this or any instance which would equal the criminality he inflicted/inflicts. His extortion scheme will carry him through whatever may come.
happy feet
(863 posts)Fani Willis, the Georgia prosecutor investigating Trump, has taken on seemingly untouchable targets
The Fulton County district attorneys aggressive pursuit of Trump and his allies could soon lead to criminal charges
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/09/fani-willis-fulton-county-georgia-trump-investigation/
jaxexpat
(6,799 posts)Should Trump have simply downloaded the find-me-a-vote app and saved all this free advertising for when he really needs it?
Sometimes I nearly drown in luxurious and rinse with sumptuous cynicism.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Bettie
(16,071 posts)and shoot everyone in sight and he'd just go home when he was done.
He wouldn't be arrested or even prosecuted.
He never faces consequences and I won't believe otherwise unless he actually does.
NOTE: A fine isn't a consequence for him, it's part of doing business as a grifter.
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)I'll cut the guy some slack as there is so much MAGA criminality to deal with like all those J6 terrorists needing to be prosecuted.
But there is a limit after which it's just obvious he's not going to go after a former President who damn near ended Democracy with the help of some in Congress who also need to face Justice btw.
Prairie_Seagull
(3,304 posts)karin_sj
(808 posts)... to see him get away with every single horrible and illegal thing he has done. I keep thinking that there has to come a time when he pays for his crimes and misdeeds. I just hope it's in my lifetime.
plimsoll
(1,667 posts)Remember when the mantra was "We're a nation of laws." Now we're looking at it and saying "Aren't we a nation of laws?" The answer is yes, we are a nation of laws. Laws and enforcement that protect the rich and privileged regardless of their actions, and laws and enforcement that punish the poor and despised. Police brutality against black folks? In the US skin tone is a pretty good indicator of wealth and prestige. White folks might have money so you let them slide unless it's obvious they can't fight back, like the homeless or mentally ill.
Trump gets away with it because the system was designed to protect him. When he became President that immunity shield got extra bonus points. He's pretty much untouchable. What about Clinton you say, well in GOP eyes he was white trash, and therefor undeserving of the white privilege he somehow stole. HRC married down and therefor lost her inherited privilege.
Don't bother trying to make sense of it, you're seeing the unwritten American caste system at work.
tikka
(762 posts)TFG is never held accountable for a crime because he has committed another crime and the preceding crime is all but forgotten.
Initech
(100,037 posts)The propaganda is the problem!
ancianita
(35,932 posts)Because he's not, he's still covered by 1A, which is why he "keeps getting away with this crap."
Ugly and vicious as he is, that's the long and short of it.
jaxexpat
(6,799 posts)It's where extortion is enshrined along with slavery and "Op" art.
ancianita
(35,932 posts)along with witness tampering and general namecalling of the Special Counsel, who he probably will have to meet face to face.
republianmushroom
(13,475 posts)23 months and counting
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CaptainTruth
(6,576 posts)In general terms, people are found in contempt when they disobey a court order, like an order to appear for a hearing or deposition.
For example, Alex Jones. He disobeyed multiple court orders to appear for depositions, was found in contempt, & fined $25,000 a day starting on April 1 2022, & the fine increased by $25,000 each business day after. (Incidentally, that's one of the reasons why the judgement against him was so large, because he repeatedly defied court orders & was held in contempt & fined for it.)
If a court orders Trump to do something like appear for a deposition or hearing, & he refuses, he will then be in contempt.
And... I say that knowing all about the 2002 rape charges against GW Bush, & the fact that Bush received 2 court orders to appear at hearings in Texas, & never appeared. I monitored the case & saved copies of the court docs (they were public record). Bush's attorneys responded to the first order, although, if I recall correctly, the court filing didn't contain details of their response. Bush then received a second court order to appear, & that's where the case went cold, at least in terms of court filings that were public record. It looks like that order was ignored.
Bush was never held in contempt, even though he defied 2 court orders, so we'll see what happens.
In 2018 The Economic Times published this summary of the incident:
"In 2002, a woman from Texas, Marie Schoedinger, had accused Bush of allegedly kidnapping, drugging and raping her. The woman also filed a $50 million lawsuit against him after her statements made headlines. However, in what is debated as the Bush administrations biggest cover-up, Schoedinger was found dead with a suicide note just months after filing the lawsuit."
LetMyPeopleVote
(144,919 posts)TFG is going to be in the courtroom in a number of upcoming trials