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Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 08:29 AM Jan 2023

"Do Not Eat The Fish"

"When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money."
- Alanis Obomsawin


Eating locally caught freshwater fish can put PFAS in human blood, study says

Eating one locally caught freshwater fish in a year delivers as much potentially health-harming nonstick PFAS compounds to the blood as drinking PFAS-contaminated water for a month, newly published scientific research finds.

Eating these fish "is like drinking some of the most PFAS-contaminated water that you could find in any public water system in the country, if not worse," said David Andrews, senior scientist with the nonprofit Environmental Working Group in Washington, D.C., which conducted the study with Duke University.

The researchers reviewed data from more than 500 fish fillet samples collected by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency from 2013 to 2015 in two programs: nationwide in its National Rivers and Streams Assessment and for the Great Lakes Human Health Fish Fillet Tissue Study. More than 44 different fish species were sampled, including popular sport fish such as largemouth and smallmouth bass, rainbow trout, northern pike and more.
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Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances — PFAS — were compounds used throughout industry and in commercial products since the mid-20th century for their nonstick and water-resistant properties, including Teflon-coated pots and pans, Scotchgard carpet stain protection and Gore-Tex rain-resistant clothing. The compounds have been dubbed "forever chemicals" because they generally fail to break down in nature. In recent years, they've been found to contribute to a host of human health problems, including cancer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/eating-locally-caught-freshwater-fish-can-put-pfas-in-human-blood-study-says/ar-AA16thSC?cvid=d5626b19d64740e9aab3966bb15b6ad1




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"Do Not Eat The Fish" (Original Post) Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2023 OP
And still the common man does not rebel Stargazer99 Jan 2023 #1
I'm thankful I don't eat fish. I can't stand the taste especially salmon. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #4
Wow. Somebody like me when it comes to fish. Solomon Jan 2023 #6
Me too! phylny Jan 2023 #8
I don't eat fish either. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2023 #30
Too busy with all responsibilities of daily life and you CAN'T miss the next pro sports event.... usaf-vet Jan 2023 #19
There are people in the human race who don't subscribe to that "wealth is god" attitude/lifestyle llmart Jan 2023 #29
I used to live on the beautiful East End of Long Island and the DEC Woodswalker Jan 2023 #2
Link: sl8 Jan 2023 #3
Do yourselves a favor and watch this TV series. llmart Jan 2023 #5
Gonna look for it. 📝 live love laugh Jan 2023 #25
This is the world we're leaving for our children--they'll ask why we let this happen. Timeflyer Jan 2023 #7
42... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #9
That's brilliant. Gore1FL Jan 2023 #17
Never had anyone respond that way before; usually get weird looks as they walk away. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #18
I tried it... I must be doing something wrong because all I get is two middle fingers straight up. usaf-vet Jan 2023 #22
That's what we're telling our future and our children. See climate crisis and pollution. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #24
Because god Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #10
god... 2naSalit Jan 2023 #11
Some here aren't worried as they say they'll be dead before things get bad Kaleva Jan 2023 #28
Every time someone tearfully cries about a cancer diagnosis live love laugh Jan 2023 #12
OMG Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #14
I think I will make the topic an OP. live love laugh Jan 2023 #16
You should Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #26
Fish is the only meat I eat. area51 Jan 2023 #13
I mostly eat fish and chicken. I'm now trying to eat more plant protein like quinoa. Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #15
The planet can only be saved once the humans die off. Buckeyeblue Jan 2023 #20
The planet doesn't care what we do and we cannot save it Kaleva Jan 2023 #27
I am reminded of the Carlos Schwabe painting the Wave bronxiteforever Jan 2023 #21
And the assholes who won't take a vaccine are totally fine with this actual, real pollution Rabrrrrrr Jan 2023 #23

Stargazer99

(2,576 posts)
1. And still the common man does not rebel
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 08:36 AM
Jan 2023

The human race has made a god out of wealth and in that process is proceeding to kill a planet that when is sick and tired of the race that is destroying it will eliminate the problem as we trained monkeys stand by and let our "superiors" destroy life on the planet in the name of profits. What makes you think the planet can't do it? Or does the human race prefer not to think about reality?

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
6. Wow. Somebody like me when it comes to fish.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 09:24 AM
Jan 2023

I don't like fish and i've always felt guilty about it because its supposed to be so healthy for you. And I've never ever understood why people think salmon tastes so good. They ooh and ahh over it but every time I try it, i just don't see it.

I have coronary artery disease so i've resolved to eat fish, but now this report comes out!

phylny

(8,368 posts)
8. Me too!
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 09:36 AM
Jan 2023

I have never liked fish and boy have I tried almost all the fish and seafood most people eat. Can’t stand it.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
30. I don't eat fish either.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:44 PM
Jan 2023

The consistency is awful, also the taste. I do eat shrimp, lobster and crab legs, though.

usaf-vet

(6,163 posts)
19. Too busy with all responsibilities of daily life and you CAN'T miss the next pro sports event....
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:22 AM
Jan 2023

..... and the dozens of other distractions meant to leave you with no time to look to the future of a non-livable environment.

Oh by the way! Who's playing this Thursday night's pro-football game?

llmart

(15,533 posts)
29. There are people in the human race who don't subscribe to that "wealth is god" attitude/lifestyle
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:39 PM
Jan 2023

Americans aren't the only culture on this earth. As I said in another post, watch the Netflix series, especially the season that is filmed in Australia and their interviews with the aboriginal peoples.

 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
2. I used to live on the beautiful East End of Long Island and the DEC
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 08:43 AM
Jan 2023

had to continuously close down the areas bays and waterways because of high nitrogen levels in the clams and oysters. So basically a viable food source was in those waters stewing in the very run off / Shit from all the New England style Victorian mcmansions dotted along every last bit of coastline out there.

llmart

(15,533 posts)
5. Do yourselves a favor and watch this TV series.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 09:23 AM
Jan 2023

I have just discovered a Netflix series that I am enjoying immensely. It's called "Down to Earth" with Zac Efron, whom I knew nothing about except for the fact that I thought he was a celebrity of sorts. It's uplifting in the fact that it shows there are people out there who are making huge strides in environmental issues. Many of them are younger people as is Zac. It was also depressing to think about how we dropped the ball in this country after President Carter left office.

Oh, and Rush Limbaugh is hopefully rotting in hell with his entire "there is no such thing as global warning" diatribes and hopefully Reagan is rotting there with him with his "greed is good" mantra.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,261 posts)
9. 42...
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 09:59 AM
Jan 2023

This is what we've said to our future and our progeny:

Hold your hands out in front of your face, palms to you. Make a fist with each. Now, use your fingers to make "42", only in binary -- 0100 0010.

(This is my own personal theory of what Douglas Adams meant by his tale of 42 being the answer to life, the universe, and everything. I could be wrong).

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
10. Because god
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jan 2023

That will be the answer. The climate change deniers claim the destruction of our planet is God's plan.

Man isn't doing it. God is. God as scapegoat has always been a useful tool for the filthy rich to justify their greed, evil and destruction.

live love laugh

(13,081 posts)
12. Every time someone tearfully cries about a cancer diagnosis
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:24 AM
Jan 2023

I think about how people don’t connect the dots to corporate greed—especially Republicans—who literally vote for their killers.

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
14. OMG
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:32 AM
Jan 2023

What a powerful statement:

They literally vote for their own killers.

It's everything in a nutshell.

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
26. You should
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:14 PM
Jan 2023

I would love you to elaborate. It's like 50% of the human race are lemmings.

OK, I went off on a deep dive about lemmings. Do they really commit mass suicide? Here's what I found?

"But the biggest reason the myth endures? Deliberate fraud. For the 1958 Disney nature film White Wilderness, filmmakers eager for dramatic footage staged a lemming death plunge, pushing dozens of lemmings off a cliff while cameras were rolling. The images—shocking at the time for what they seemed to show about the cruelty of nature and shocking now for what they actually show about the cruelty of humans—convinced several generations of moviegoers that these little rodents do, in fact, possess a bizarre instinct to destroy themselves."

https://www.britannica.com/story/do-lemmings-really-commit-mass-suicide

Corporations are insidious.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
15. I mostly eat fish and chicken. I'm now trying to eat more plant protein like quinoa.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:48 AM
Jan 2023

The EU does a far better job of regulating chemicals than we do. Agribusiness has owned the government for years, and Monsanto has been allowed to pollute at will.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
20. The planet can only be saved once the humans die off.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:28 AM
Jan 2023

The irony of evolution is that we can only evolve to the point where destroying ourselves is assured. Nuke war, pollution, global warming. Pick your poison.

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
27. The planet doesn't care what we do and we cannot save it
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:19 PM
Jan 2023

Earth has a finite lifespan and primarily because of plate tectonics, will go through radical changes before being incinerated by the expanding sun

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
21. I am reminded of the Carlos Schwabe painting the Wave
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:29 AM
Jan 2023


He did several studies before the final painting. See the above. The Wave sees a variety of spectral figures rushing in with a wave. They accuse the viewer of some horrible crime.

The final painting

Rabrrrrrr

(58,347 posts)
23. And the assholes who won't take a vaccine are totally fine with this actual, real pollution
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:34 AM
Jan 2023

because, I guess, they feel that since liberals don't like pollution, then pollution must actually be really good.

and it's good for the economy.

and they'll never win the "I'm gonna get rich by working hard!" lottery if we regulate water.

Or something.

I don't know.

The way their useless turd brains work is truly incomprehensible to me.

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