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Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:45 AM Jan 2023

New details emerge about plot to shoot at New Mexico Democrats' homes

The arrest of a defeated candidate for the New Mexico legislature on charges that he orchestrated a plot to shoot up the homes of four Democratic officials in Albuquerque prompted widespread condemnation Tuesday as well as accusations that the stolen-election rhetoric among supporters of former president Donald Trump continues to incite violence.

Following the Monday arrest, new details emerged Tuesday about the alleged conspiracy, including how close a spray of bullets came to the sleeping 10-year-old daughter of a state senator. Albuquerque police said in charging documents released Tuesday that Solomon Peña, 39, who lost a state House seat in November by a nearly 2-1 margin but complained that his defeat was rigged, hatched the plot. Police accused him of conspiring with four accomplices to drive past the officials’ homes and fire at them.

Peña “provided firearms and cash payments and personally participated in at least one shooting,” the documents said. They alleged he intended to cause “serious injury or death” to the people inside their homes, the documents said. The group allegedly stole at least two cars used in the incidents, police said.

One of the targets of the attack said the shootings were part of a lineage of violence that stems from Trump’s false claims of a stolen election and that includes the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

“You think it wouldn’t happen here, that someone would do this to local officials,” said former Bernalillo commissioner Debbie O’Malley, whose home was shot at Dec. 11. “There’s been this narrative for a long time: If you don’t get your way, it’s okay to be violent. The message came from the top. It came from Trump.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/17/solomon-pea-shooting-new-mexico/

Proving again that RepubliKKKans are nothing but criminals! #soreloser

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New details emerge about plot to shoot at New Mexico Democrats' homes (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jan 2023 OP
This says it all. Diamond_Dog Jan 2023 #1
Good luck getting the major media to repeat that simple truth gratuitous Jan 2023 #11
They really do want to kill us. Woodswalker Jan 2023 #2
I disagree. ALL of them. ret5hd Jan 2023 #4
They would genocide transpeople. I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2023 #21
He got 4 people to go along with this? underpants Jan 2023 #3
I remember the rally from a few years ago where one of the participants asked the speaker when Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #5
Yep, that was at a Charlie Kirk/Turning Point USA event. keep_left Jan 2023 #23
Who was the loon in KY that promoted settling issues with the bullet box rather than than the Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #6
"The message came from the top. It came from Trump." AND YET there are no consequences. WHY? usaf-vet Jan 2023 #7
Believe we can lay the blame KS Toronado Jan 2023 #8
Absolutely. 'Our' Cowboys for Trump' Couy Griffin duhneece Jan 2023 #32
Way to many on the right are saying that, we should pay attention. KS Toronado Jan 2023 #33
It's said that we have to take people at their word. Woodswalker Jan 2023 #9
So many rightwingers are stupid as hell RussBLib Jan 2023 #10
One Nit To Pick ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #27
Well, good to know RussBLib Jan 2023 #29
And south, in Otero County "...only good Democrat is dead..." duhneece Jan 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author duhneece Jan 2023 #13
The hate in this country is getting totally out of control. Initech Jan 2023 #14
"it came from trump." El Mimbreno Jan 2023 #15
K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Jan 2023 #16
Lots of schoolboy tantrums being thrown by electoral losers these days Torchlight Jan 2023 #17
Notice the silence moniss Jan 2023 #18
A word of advice... world wide wally Jan 2023 #19
"The arrest of a defeated candidate...prompted widespread condemnation" geardaddy Jan 2023 #20
More to the story now includes Lyndon Larouche cult hate and lunacy LynMarcus Jan 2023 #22
This is absolutely news to me and I've been watching closely duhneece Jan 2023 #31
'Second Amendment Solutions' keithbvadu2 Jan 2023 #24
"You think it wouldn't happen here" Takket Jan 2023 #25
Adding this link malaise Jan 2023 #26
TY.. I've listened to Linda Lopez, Cha Jan 2023 #28
Yet another sore loser conservative that can't handle his election loss canuckledragger Jan 2023 #30

Diamond_Dog

(40,579 posts)
1. This says it all.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:53 AM
Jan 2023

“There’s been this narrative for a long time: If you don’t get your way, it’s okay to be violent. The message came from the top. It came from Trump.” Nailed it.

Yet so many people still worship this psycho. And he’s still free as a bird….

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Good luck getting the major media to repeat that simple truth
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jan 2023

Before that happens, I expect to see some nitwit on a national program equate Pena's terrorism with protesters chalking the public sidewalk outside a Supreme Court Justice's house.

 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
2. They really do want to kill us.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:55 AM
Jan 2023

Yes I know not all of them but given the chance in some type of coup or takeover I think a lot of them would take out their misguided frustrations on school teachers, neighbors, and probably even police who are trying to keep order. And alot of them would stand by and just watch

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
4. I disagree. ALL of them.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:03 AM
Jan 2023

Most want someone else to do the “wet work”…but there would be no grieving when the work was done.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
21. They would genocide transpeople.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 06:48 PM
Jan 2023

I am not kidding. They are already taking away gender affirming care hoping young trans people will feel so hopeless about finally being able to live in thier own skin they suicide. These pieces of shit want us to not exist. A strict gender binary is an integral part of fascism and it pisses off fundies because they want to think god cant make mistakes,fucking assholes.

underpants

(196,502 posts)
3. He got 4 people to go along with this?
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:01 AM
Jan 2023

That’s an extra layer of scary. If it was just me that would be bad but even with money involved these people went along with it.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
5. I remember the rally from a few years ago where one of the participants asked the speaker when
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:23 AM
Jan 2023

they could start shooting Democrats. Evidently, it’s whenever you lose an election. When you vote for any Republican, you vote for domestic terrorism like this.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
6. Who was the loon in KY that promoted settling issues with the bullet box rather than than the
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 11:39 AM
Jan 2023

ballot box? I think she pre-dated 45. Tea bagger I seem to recall. Sadly, there are millions who are fine with this. We're heading down a dangerous path.

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
7. "The message came from the top. It came from Trump." AND YET there are no consequences. WHY?
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:11 PM
Jan 2023

I'm starting to feel the current U.S. A.G. is following the Meuller Investigation path to nothing resembling punishment.

I hope and pray I'm wrong...but!

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
8. Believe we can lay the blame
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:13 PM
Jan 2023

at the feet of FQX, Rush Limbaugh, Q-a-nonsense and the like, they have spent years telling
reQublicOns to HATE Democrats because we are evil un-Americans who hate liberty.

duhneece

(4,510 posts)
32. Absolutely. 'Our' Cowboys for Trump' Couy Griffin
Thu Jan 19, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jan 2023

Has spoken about growing up listening to Rush L. So we’re not surprised to hear him say, “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.” Then Trump retweeted that.
But sickened.
And far more alert.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
33. Way to many on the right are saying that, we should pay attention.
Thu Jan 19, 2023, 02:46 PM
Jan 2023

If a group of people were saying "The only Good (Jew/Catholic/Baptist) is a dead (Jew/Catholic/Baptist),
somebody would be raising the roof and calling people out. We should point shit like this out to voters.

 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
9. It's said that we have to take people at their word.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:19 PM
Jan 2023

when you hear when can we start shooting democrats at rallies thats beyond concerning. And we've all seen countless examples of this in the last few yrs

RussBLib

(10,636 posts)
10. So many rightwingers are stupid as hell
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:21 PM
Jan 2023

Pena might have gotten away with it if he hadn't hired 4 people to shoot at Dems. You're not going to keep a secret that way.

D'oh. Guarantee he would be glued to Fox. And/or OAN and Newsmax.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
27. One Nit To Pick
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 08:33 PM
Jan 2023

Nobody is watching OAN.
The aggregate weekly viewership, all platforms, is 35,000. And, that's not necessarily 35,000 unique viewers.
How that pipsqueak ever got into the WH briefing room is a mystery. At their peak, when the crazies were "boycotting" Faux it was 105,000.
They're nothing.

RussBLib

(10,636 posts)
29. Well, good to know
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:22 PM
Jan 2023

Now if we could get rid of Newsmax and the big bad propaganda network Fox.

duhneece

(4,510 posts)
12. And south, in Otero County "...only good Democrat is dead..."
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:27 PM
Jan 2023

AND we just elected a J6 participant, John Block because, you know, he has an ‘R’ next to his name.

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Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
17. Lots of schoolboy tantrums being thrown by electoral losers these days
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 12:55 PM
Jan 2023

which wouldn't really bother me, but a tantrum with a firearm becomes a threat to the community. Reading transcripts of this republican wannabe puts me in mind of the six year old who recently shot his teacher.

Guess a lot of 'em want to prove that even the wounded pride of triggered snowflakes can cause damage. "If I can't win this election/keep my girlfriend/hold a job/enjoy a peaceful day, then no one can! Bam!"

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
19. A word of advice...
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:36 PM
Jan 2023

When someone yells, "Duck!". Don't say, "What?"
When someone starts shooting at you, don't say, "We have to investigate this"

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
20. "The arrest of a defeated candidate...prompted widespread condemnation"
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 02:30 PM
Jan 2023

Who TF is condemning the arrest of this dude?

LynMarcus

(5 posts)
22. More to the story now includes Lyndon Larouche cult hate and lunacy
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 07:56 PM
Jan 2023

Solomon Pena had full support of the Larouche cult when he ran for office and was active with them.


Plenty of Solomon Pena's lunacy and ideology came from the Larouche cult . He was a featured LarouchePAC candidate for state office

https://www.larouchepac.com/campaign_to_replace_the_federal_reserve_with_a_national_bank_gains_big_support

Pena gave money many times to the cult and so did the shooter who was arrested in his car.


Just google his name and Larouche

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/complain...itical-campaign


Complaints About Culture War And ‘Demonic’ Forces Fueled Alleged New Mexico Shooter’s Political Campaign


A review of his campaign website and social media postings showed that Pena parroted deranged versions of right-wing culture war concerns. As he expressed fear over the “Black Lives Matter” movement and feminism prior to the election, Pena’s comments were tinged with the QAnon-adjacent idea that liberal ideology as a whole is part of some larger, nefarious plot with roots in the supernatural.

“Critical Race Theory, the entire Black Lives Matter movement, aborting the unborn, food stamps, affirmative action, etc. are all demonic,” Pena wrote in an essay posted on his main campaign site.

That was one of four main items on Pena’s campaign site including another essay arguing that various environmentally-friendly energy technologies were “hoaxes,” a link promoting an article posted by a political action committee that was led by the late conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche, and a report that purportedly outlined issues with New Mexico’s elections last year. There was no credible evidence of widespread fraud in those races...............

In mid October, Pena sent a pair of tweets ten minutes apart where he attacked Democrats and cast the progressive agenda as “demonic.” ..

Along with his apparent devotion to culture wars and election conspiracy theory rage, Pena also seemed to be animated by some even less mainstream ideas. On his website and Twitter page, Pena promoted the ideas of LaRouche, a noted anti-Semite and conspiracist whose ideology ran all over the map. Specifically, on Twitter, Pena highlighted pages from a LaRouche book that criticized the global influence of various think tanks and the World Wildlife Fund. Pena’s campaign site also linked to an article from LaRouche’s political action committee that railed against “the scourge of globalist empire” and cast former President Trump as having challenged the “anti-human world view” of elite economists. That article also advocated for “developing a permanent human presence on the Moon” as a solution to multiple societal issues.

Pena wasn’t solely focused on the world of the demonic. Like the LaRouche acolytes, he also had an eye towards outer space and was eager to see moon colonies. In one November 2022 tweet where he attacked Stansbury for claiming to be “PRO-SCIENCE.” In that message, he framed abortion as an obstacle that would prevent the spread of civilization to other planets.

“I disagree. We need a global population of ten billion people in order to have the proper division of labor so we can colonize the moon and Mars, but you are highly focused on helping abort 890,000 babies a year, in the U.S,” Pena wrote adding, “You are anti science.”




a manifesto from noted conspiracist and right-wing activist Lyndon LaRouche that declares “our Republic faces the greatest threat to its existence since the Civil War.”


In a comment on the document, Peña complained that the University of New Mexico was “overran with Marxism [sic].” (A university spokesperson confirmed to TIME that Peña graduated with a bachelor’s degree in political science in 2021.) A review of public records shows that he made nearly two-dozen donations to the Lyndon LaRouche PAC in 2022, which highlighted his campaign on their website for championing their policies. Solomon Peña’s name on the LaRouche PAC’s site appears to be registered under the username “USA Nationalist.” The PAC did not respond to TIME’s request for comment......
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keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
24. 'Second Amendment Solutions'
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 08:10 PM
Jan 2023

'Second Amendment Solutions'

Becoming a more popular meme amongst MAGAs/conservatives.

Louie Gohmert Says ‘Yeah’ When Asked If Conservatives Are Getting Closer to ‘Second Amendment Solutions At Some Point’

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/louie-gohmert-second-amendment-solutions/

Takket

(23,715 posts)
25. "You think it wouldn't happen here"
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 08:23 PM
Jan 2023

I got news.......... anywhere there are rethugs, this can happen. they are angry, violent, armed, and pretty much everywhere. No one should consider themselves safe in this country.

Cha

(319,086 posts)
28. TY.. I've listened to Linda Lopez,
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 09:59 PM
Jan 2023

Adriann Barboa, and Albuquerque DA Sam Bregman and they all are Brilliant Advocates for Justice and Democracy.

And I was heartened .. We will Beat this Violent Maniacs!

 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
30. Yet another sore loser conservative that can't handle his election loss
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 10:24 PM
Jan 2023

...like a mature adult.

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