Wow. This is SO special. Joe Manchin, a DEMOCRAT, wants to HELP Republicans SAVE Social Security!

[Miles Archer]

Advocates say 'hell no' as Manchin pitches Social Security deal with GOP

In an interview on Fox Business—conducted at the annual gathering of corporate and political elites in Davos, Switzerland—the West Virginia Democrat said that "we have a debt problem" and argued members of both parties should "work together" on solutions. The senator singled out Social Security, even though the program can't by law add to long-term deficits.

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The problem, from the perspective of Social Security defenders, is Manchin's suggested avenue for reforms: Bipartisan congressional committees that critics have denounced as "a Trojan horse to cut seniors' benefits."

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Alex Lawson, the executive director of Social Security Works, told Common Dreams that President Joe Biden should "reiterate his commitment to only signing a clean debt limit increase, and specifically rule out a closed-door commission designed to cut Social Security," in response to the West Virginia Democrat's comments.

"Manchin is providing cover for Republican attacks on Social Security and Medicare," Lawson said. "Democrats must stand with President Biden in his calls for a clean debt ceiling [increase] and an end to Republican attacks on our earned benefits."

https://www.rawstory.com/advocates-say-hell-no-as-manchin-pitches-social-security-deal-with-gop/

[CentralMass]

1. Well it goes without saying....

[NewHendoLib]

2. F J M.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. If 3 out of 4 under 29 dont bother to vote when everything is on the line, if half who do vote

go OUT OF THEIR way to vote for those DEDICATED to taking away their SS and Medicare, then we deserve to lose it all I guess.

If you disagree, (Not you the OP, in general) are you ready to have a reaction to the cons that is COMMENSURATE to their actions?

[Miles Archer]

6. I blame 100% of what's going on right now on voters

Those who didn't vote, and those who voted for Greene, Boebert, Goasar, Gaetz, Santos...

...I've been doing the Paul Revere thing on this since the 2020 election. This didn't happen overnight..Republicans have been telegraphing their punches for a LONG time. And voters empowered them to do it.

And yes, the Senate won't pass the cuts, and President Biden has already vowed to veto any cuts Republicans came up with if they actually made it to his desk. But if voters elect a Republican president in 2024, and Republicans hold their House majority and make gains in the Senate, I'd plan on kissing both programs goodbye.

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. Young voters are the largest untapped pool of predictably Democratic voters

Nationally, 63% of young voters voted for Dem candidates. Even though young voter turnout was just 27% in 2022 (31% in swing states), their turnout has gradually been increasing, if turnout can be increased by even just 5-10%, it could make a huge difference.

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/millions-youth-cast-ballots-decide-key-2022-races

Anyone who ignores or discounts the youth vote, especially in favor of throwing resources at White Boomer voters who hang out in swing state diners deserves to lose.

[Eliot Rosewater]

15. They have to be appealed to, there is a poster here Mister Ed

who addressed this issue better than anyone I have seen.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17565507

Is a response I liked very much...

[Meadowoak]

4. Maybe, a better way to fix the debt, is to repeal tax cuts for billionaires.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. Manchin is a fine American statesman

That’s all his fan club will allow me to say.

Funny thing is, I bet Manchin, along with Sinema, will vote for an exception to the filibuster rule to ram through the SS cuts with 49 republicans in the senate after the house passes them.

[jcgoldie]

7. Joe won't sign that

And if Sinema in particular who has been outspoken on the issue votes for exceptions to the filibuster she will look like the biggest hypocrite in history

[maxrandb]

10. Well, obviously, voters ALWAYS hold hypocrisy in politicians accountable

If needed...

[lees1975]

13. She already has that label.

She got it when she ran as a progressive Democrat to win election to the House, and again to the Senate.

[Miles Archer]

8. Well, until 2024 at least, there's still the Biden firewall

As I said above, a Republican president in 2024 would be a guarantee of both programs becoming a thing of the past.

[Buckeyeblue]

11. If Manchin is so effective, why is WV like a 3rd world nation?

If any of the so called safety nets were cut, WV would turn into an infested cauldron of cannibals.

My grandfather grew up in WV. He liked to joke that everyone in WV had one leg short than the other because they always stood on the side of a hill.

That grandfather had one leg shorter than the other because he survived polio has a child that left him with a slightly twisted spin and a bad leg. He would be beside himself listening to the anti-vaxxers.

[LiberalFighter]

12. He needs to be brutally attacked in the media.

[JohnSJ]

14. The jackass is making his media tours today. He was spewing his crap on Bloomberg today

[Takket]

16. maybe they should make SS/Medicare tied to who you vote for?

the seniors who vote rethug obviously don't want these things, so let's make it mandatory if you vote for rethugs it also opts you out of SS/Medicare. that would go a long way to shoring up the system! and any surplus can just be doled out to the people that want it.

i'm being facetious of course but it pisses me off thinking of every senior that votes rethug because "WoKe iS EviL" that is cashing these checks KNOWING rethugs want to end the system. wish there was a way to just single THEM out and say "okay, this is the people you want to elect? okay, you get exactly what you wish for!"

[Bristlecone]

17. His PR team is back from vacation I guess.

Time to get some relevancy news going again to kick off the “New Year of Joe”

[Kennah]

18. Save it for Wall Street