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(5,026 posts)Its all performance theater playing to the crazies. Just like they voted to repeal the ACA a thousand times when there wasnt a chance it would happen. When they had the power, crickets.
Theres no reason why we shouldnt use it against them though.
brush
(61,033 posts)for being a party lower taxes and smaller government. That proposal smashes both in one fell swoop.
They've got a little power and have lost their 'effin' minds. Voters sure won't like that, not to mention it won't get past the Senate or Joe Biden's veto.
Marthe48
(23,310 posts)n/t
JohnnyRingo
(20,951 posts)...people will say "that's better".
I don't think it's that simple, but I wouldn't put anything past them.
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)They will say that they have to because the Democrats ran up the debt and now there is no choice. And the third of the country which supports the Republicans will believe them. This third will hear on the news, in their churches, from their friends that Democratic spending caused the collapse of Social Security and Medicare, so this third will believe it. Relatively few of the third of voters who vote blue will believe the lies but their votes count for less thanks to gerrymandering and disenfranchisement. The third in the middle who up until now couldn't be bothered to vote? Let's hope that they aren't frightened because they haven't been paying attention and don't understand what is going on. Because frightened people often look for a Strong Leader with quick and easy answers.
MyOwnPeace
(17,601 posts)I wouldn't put much faith in "voters sure won't like that."
WAY too many have been voting against their own best interests in this MAGA era that I'd never count on them just once using 'common sense.'
brush
(61,033 posts)that they can see right off, they won't like it. Paying 30% in taxes instead of the normal 8% of so is very noticeable.
MyOwnPeace
(17,601 posts)but I'm really counting on any such nonsense ever getting past the Senate - and we KNOW that Joe would tell them where to 'place' that bill!
brush
(61,033 posts)Attention-seeking Repugs are just playing to their maga base, but it's a dumb miscalculation.
ColinC
(11,098 posts)But for some reason, I have a feeling it wont :/
their hatred for immigrants, for example, overrides any economic common sense
would think, but ..
multigraincracker
(37,871 posts)on wealth. Those worth $50million or more.
WarGamer
(18,797 posts)1 million a year for net worth 100m, 10 million a year for a 1 billionaire.
Rebl2
(17,873 posts)to me
WVreaper
(676 posts)I could start with a multitude of what some would call obscene language but I will abstain from that. Nah, never mind. Anything that they can do to fuck the lower and middle class is okay..
Prairie_Seagull
(4,766 posts)Only in their wildest, dystopian fucked up world would these pass. They have been given the rope, now lets use it.
Cha
(319,920 posts)to say Just That!
They're Fucking Crazy & this kind of Shit needs to shouted out in Every Election!
SKKY
(12,806 posts)...and explain to the American people why the Republicans are trying to increase the price of everything they purchase on a daily basis by 30%. I'm sure Katie Porter could produce some great charts. Because this would be bat-shit crazy if something like this passed.
WarGamer
(18,797 posts)Schumer doesn't even need to allow a vote.
he just say we wont bring it to the floor and be done with it?
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)The commercials write themselves:
Rep. (r-name here) will charge you thirty cents for every dollar you spend. That's a thirty percent cost of living increase! Talk about fighting inflation! Don't let Rep. (r-name here) cut your family's standard of living by one-third!
SKKY
(12,806 posts)BumRushDaShow
(171,196 posts)Democrats CONTROL the Senate. That mess will be DOA and might not even make it to a Committee.
Remember -
Murphyb849
(614 posts)Link to tweet
?t=8NE5CUHPsB2Q3yR500sChg&s=19
greblach
(295 posts)to inflation???
trof
(54,274 posts)If you ever read The Jungle Book, they are the Bandar log.
They are monkeys who stay way up in the jungle canopy and rain down feces and insults on the other animals.
Oh hell, here's wiki's take:
"The Bandar-log feature most prominently in the story "Kaa's Hunting", where their scatterbrained anarchy causes them to be treated as pariahs by the rest of the jungle.[2] Their foolish and chattering ways are illustrated by their slogan: We are great. We are free. We are wonderful. We are the most wonderful people in all the jungle! We all say so, and so it must be true. Bandar-log communicate almost entirely through the repetition of other animals' speech"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar-log
None of their apeshit will ever get past the senate.
They don't have the votes to overturn a veto.
It's just gonna be two years of a clown show.
I think we'll survive.
MyOwnPeace
(17,601 posts)This is all coming from the "House" - one part of the Legislative Branch of our government. The other part is the Senate - and that is now stocked with a Democratic majority (in spite of Sinema and Manchin - and THEY can be 'had' now and then).
So, no matter HOW absurd (and some WILL be) anything coming from the House would be, it needs to get through the Senate.
And even if it does (see: Sinema/Manchin) - the President (JOE!!!!) would have to sign it to be law. We have to trust Joe to keep us safe from the crazies - and he will.
THE PROBLEM: Anything that WE need, you know, like the debt limit - we need the 'House' to approve it. THAT is where it will be a problem for the next 2 years.
HOPEFULLY, after 2 years of their BULLSHIT we will have enough votes to get appropriate people in legislative positions so that we can actually have a functional government again.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Nothing in MSM. Tweets are not sources.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)is going nowhere.
ShazzieB
(22,763 posts)...swatting all the flies that the House GOPigs send flying at them (in between doing Senate business, of course). It'll be annoying af, but we'll survive!
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Passing unknown bills is already being done.
WV Senate passes bills before releasing their text
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217571718
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)The thing to get mad about is their obstinacy of reducing Social Security and Medicare as part of a "bargain" to raise the debt ceiling and Joe Manchin's eagerness to "help" with the negotiations. Everybody has to understand that the debt is owed and has to be paid, just as the debt ceiling was raised to pay for Trump's part of the debt.
scarletlib
(3,569 posts)That put the biggest hole in the budget. Would be an easy, fair fix and no one is hurt. Notice they never even mention that option.