WARNING: GRAPHIC ⚠️ Police in North Carolina shot an unarmed disabled man

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WARNING: GRAPHIC ⚠️ Police in North Carolina shot a disabled man who was unarmed and complying with their orders.

A SWAT team woke Jason Harley Kloepfer up and told him to get outside, then they shot him as soon as he opened the door.


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2:43 AM · Jan 22, 2023

[underpants]

1. His hands were up

Yeah he had a flashlight but he should. Did they think he was going shoot DOWN at them with a handgun?

God.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. ACAB, FTP, abolition now. From steno reports of the cop press release at the time:

The sheriff’s office says deputies arrived at the scene to investigate a report of shots fired where they found 41-year-old Jason Harley Kloepfer, who initially would not come out of the camper trailer, prompting officers to call in the SWAT Team.

The sheriff’s office says Kloepfer eventually came outside and confronted officers, forcing them to shoot the suspect.

https://www.local3news.com/local-news/suspect-recovering-at-chattanooga-hospital-following-officer-involved-shooting-in-murphy/article_7c1eecd4-7b11-11ed-901a-9b12f43c3169.html

[NullTuples]

6. "forcing them to shoot" him? They'd already made up their minds to be judge, jury & executioner.

[DashOneBravo]

10. Holy shit

Hopefully there will some people going to jail.

That’s a deep level of covering up. Regarding the press release

[WhiskeyGrinder]

14. I wouldn't even say it's covering up. It's their worldview.

[DashOneBravo]

16. I'm not arguing

I don’t know where you live etc.

Do you know any cops? Not every place is like that.

My niece went from a Air Force a loadmaster and went to the High way patrol. I’ve got several buddies that are about to retire from small towns law enforcement. One work on busting other crooked cops. One just switched to tracking pedos online.

Like the military there are crooked, toxic people but not all of them .

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. I'm not either.

I do know cops, and I believe the institution should be abolished.

[EX500rider]

19. Anybody thinks the US will be safe without police is seriously confused

It'd be mad Max anarchy times.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

22. We know what prevents crime, and it's not cops. I know what keeps me safe, and it's also not cops.

[EX500rider]

24. Fear of going to jail and prison...

... is what keeps a lot of low lifes from committing crimes but they need police to arrest them before they're going to go to jail.

[Sneederbunk]

3. He is recovering. Will have no problem obtaining civil attorney.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. Love the part where they say "hey cameras, there's cameras," and they stop talking

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[ARandomPerson]

5. OMG

Not only should these cops be charged, but whoever wrote their initial press statement accusing the guy of threatening the cops before they shot him should fired.

[dalton99a]

7. +1

[DashOneBravo]

11. If it hadn't been for the video showing he has a flashlight

They would get away with it.

[Boomerproud]

8. Horrific.

[dalton99a]

9. "Kloepfer has been charged with Communicating Threats and Resist, Obstruct, and Delay."

The sheriff’s office says Kloepfer eventually came outside and confronted officers, forcing them to shoot the suspect.

Kloepfer was taken to Erlanger where he is in stable condition.

Kloepfer has been charged with Communicating Threats and Resist, Obstruct, and Delay.

The sheriff’s office says more charges are possible as the investigation is ongoing.

https://www.local3news.com/local-news/suspect-recovering-at-chattanooga-hospital-following-officer-involved-shooting-in-murphy/article_7c1eecd4-7b11-11ed-901a-9b12f43c3169.html

[iemanja]

12. Why are cops constantly afraid?

They shoot people in part because they think they will be hurt, but they have to be the biggest cowards on the planet. Normal human beings are not so easily frightened. They clearly are unfit to serve, and that includes a great many of them.

[Jedi Guy]

15. "Why are cops constantly afraid?"

That's a simple question with a complex answer.

Part of the answer (and problem) is the training many of them get these days, the "warrior" mentality. Its basic tenet is that the city is a battlefield, they're soldiers, and there are enemy combatants disguised as civilians. That last bit is somewhat true, since you can't pick out a criminal just by looking at them. But the mentality they're inculcated with in training is hypervigilance, head on a swivel, never turn your back, always expect the worst.

Another part of the answer is that they're well aware of just how many people are walking around out there with guns. Certain parts of the US are awash with them. When I was a dispatcher, my department published statistics showing that 70% of the cars stopped for traffic violations contained a gun, so those cops knew walking up to that car that the odds are better than even there's a weapon in there.

Yet another part of the answer is that cops deal with people/situations where things go from calmly chatting to gunfire in the blink of an eye as part of the job, and they talk. Officer Smith has a close call, and you'd better believe other officers will hear about it. Those instances are rare, sure, but they do happen and word gets around.

It also depends a lot on the call they're dealing with. Certain calls, like domestic violence, have a very high chance of going sideways, and the officers are very well aware of things like that. If a dispatcher sends a cop to a traffic accident, they'll decline a backup unit, guaranteed. If they're sent to a domestic violence call, they will 100% request a backup unit if it's not offered outright.

Bottom line: There's a lot wrong with police culture and training in the US that needs to change, but the reality of the job is that things can pop off without warning, and they're always on the lookout for that. They have a saying, which is, "It's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."

[iemanja]

17. Good information

and the fact so many people having guns is a real problem.

[Jedi Guy]

13. The officers who shot him are likely destined for prison, and they earned it fair and square.

I'm always a little skeptical of videos/claims posted on Twitter since there've been several where the videos have been edited to remove relevant information. The runtime counter in this one makes it clear there were no edits or jumps, though.

I could see an officer mistaking a flashlight for a gun with a flashlight attachment on the barrel if he'd quickly raised it and pointed it directly at them. The video angle doesn't capture exactly where he pointed the flashlight in his right hand, but it's clear from his posture that his left hand was raised so it's very likely did the same with his right.

Unless the bodycam/squadcar video shows something very different from what's presented here, these cops screwed up bigtime. The ones who pulled the trigger should and hopefully will catch charges, the incident commander's career is very likely over, and Mr. Kloepfer can expect a big payday from the city.

[SYFROYH]

20. Shooting a compliant unarmed person should be automatic hail time.

There was no gun.

[Boomerproud]

21. What was the outcome? Where was the man shot and what is his condition?

The twitter vid doesn't answer those questions or is there another link I'm missing.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

23. He was taken to the hospital and charged with communicating threats, resisting arrest and

obstructing. That was back in December; not what the latest is. The video made the rounds today.

[Red Mountain]

25. All individual law enforcement officers should be required to purchase malpractice insurance

They can negotiate with their employers over who will will have to pay for it.

Rates for some organizations are going to be higher based on performance.

Will not eliminate this sort of thing......but will steer the decision making process in the right way.



For law enforcement and taxpayers stuck with the bill for incompetence.