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cab67

(2,993 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 08:33 PM Jan 2023

Have you tried to provide feedback to a company online?

It's become bloody impossible.

As some of you know, my wife and I live about somewhere between 3.5 and 4.5 hours apart, depending on traffic. So while classes are in session, I commute every weekend.

My wife was in an accident three or four weeks ago. She and our daughter were fine, but the car was a total loss. It was one of those chain-reaction multi-car affairs on a city freeway, meaning insurance companies are still trying to sort out the liability; until then, it's hard for her to get a new car. Before classes began, this merely meant I took on the title of "chauffeur." But classes started last week. I headed back, and she got a rental car to keep her going until I returned.

A leak arose in the cooling line of my own car. The part of the line with the leak in this particular car (Kia Niro hybrid) is part of the same unit as the catalytic converter. Thus, the whole unit - including the catalytic converter - must be replaced. The repair has to be done by a Kia dealership, and they wouldn't be able to look at it until next week. (The diagnosis was made not by the dealership, but by a local auto service business I trust. And on the bright side, this setup does make the catalytic converter more theft-resistant.) Thus, I had to rent a car to get back with my family. Slight nuisance and a cost I'd rather not have to absorb, but things are how they are, so off to a local office of a rental agency I went.

(This is one of the major international car rental companies. I probably shouldn't name it, but it rhymes with "hurts.&quot

The car made it about a third of the way. I stopped to get something at a convenience store in a very rural area, and after that, the car basically wouldn't start completely after I pressed the start button. (I won't go into details, but the problem appears to be with the car's entire electrical system and not the battery or transmission.)

I don't blame the company for the faulty car. Cars break down all the time, and one cannot always sniff out a lemon from a car that otherwise looks fine. Nor do I blame the agent who set up the rental - he was, presumably, not a trained mechanic. But I nevertheless ran into a comedy of errors from the company as a whole.

First - we eventually established that the car wasn't drivable, but my first impulse was to check the user manual to make sure I wasn't overlooking something. But the user manual wasn't in the car.

I was able to find a pdf of the user manual online with my phone, but between the size of my phone screen and the setup of the manual, it was all but useless.

Second - the first person I encountered on the company's roadside emergency assistance line listened to me for a few minutes, then switched me over to an automated message with instructions for filling out an accident report and bringing it to the local rental office. Beyond the fact that I wasn't actually in an accident, this was worthless advice - I was stranded in a very small town with no way to take such a form to a rental office.

The next person was a lot more helpful. She arranged a tow for the broken-down car and a Lyft ride to the nearest office that was open - which happened to be 2.5 hours away at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. These seem like simple tasks, but it took more than an hour, much of which was spent on hold. (O'Hare is actually close to my destination, so that wasn't really too big of an inconvenience.)

The problem was that nearly all of this company's offices close at noon on Saturdays. This includes Moline, IL, which is a reasonably large town with a regional airport less than an hour from where I was stranded. I mean, I get that some businesses haven't recovered fully from the pandemic, but you'd think a company in the business of renting vehicles that might break down, stranding a customer in the middle of nowhere, might keep longer business hours on days when many people travel. (For some reason, the tow company they hired also came from Chicago. The Quad Cities may not have an office for the rental company with reasonable working hours, but they certainly have towing companies.)

That agent - who, as I said, was overall very helpful - gave the Lyft driver the wrong address for my location. He ended up driving 20 miles in the wrong direction before realizing I wasn't just standing at the point on the side of the freeway provided by the agent, to whom I provided the precise address of the convenience store where I was stranded. I also told her which exit on the freeway the driver should take; the store is something like a third of a mile off the freeway.

The bright spot was the staff I encountered at O'Hare, all of whom were paragons of courtesy and professionalism. They all went out of their way to help. But that help was delayed because I was never given a case number, nor had they been informed that the original rental vehicle was being towed. (They learned of this from the text message the towing company sent me.) In fact, they appear to have heard nothing about the situation at all, and they were (properly) reluctant to just hand a vehicle over to me.

I finally made it back, albeit several hours late and in a sour mood.

So - for obvious reasons, I want to provide some feedback to this company. Some of it will, of course, be in the form of a nastygram. I encountered one employee who was incompetent, and their internal communication system sucks. They failed to provide a user manual for the car I was provided. I was almost left stranded in a town with no hotel, no taxi service (and very few people who drive for Lyft or Uber), and limited ability to tow a rental vehicle to the closest business location.

But go to the web site for this company, and there's no meaningful way to provide any sort of feedback. Go to "contact us," and they phone numbers where I can set up a new rental, along with "frequently asked questions" that came nowhere near to describing anything I dealt with.

At this point, I may just end up sending the letter to the company's president. It's the closest thing to an email address for complaints I can find.

Do they not want to improve their business? Do they not want to know of employees who should be replaced? Or employees who should be recognized for exemplary service? Or issues that really should be addressed if they want to keep customers returning for business?

Seriously - am I the only one who's encountered this?

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Jilly_in_VA

(9,971 posts)
1. This particular one, yes.
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 08:39 PM
Jan 2023

We had a poor experience with them several years ago and tried to provide feedback, and they did not care, obviously. We went right up the chain, to no avail. We've been successful with other companies, however.

cab67

(2,993 posts)
2. I can't even find a way to complain.
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 08:43 PM
Jan 2023

Their web site looks like it's deliberately set up to prevent it.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,971 posts)
8. Neither could I
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:57 PM
Jan 2023

I took it to the Better Business Bureau but never heard anything, We rent from Enterprise exclusively now.

RamblingRose

(1,038 posts)
3. We had an issue with Avis several months ago but nothing to this extreme. They didn't have the car
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 08:57 PM
Jan 2023

we reserved and gave us a different car. I had prepaid for the car along with the insurance. I submitted a claim online with the Better Business Bureau and included all my documentation. They took my case and Avis gave me my money back.

Good Luck.

cab67

(2,993 posts)
4. I've gotten different cars before.
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 09:10 PM
Jan 2023

Usually, it's because the vehicle I reserved was no longer available for whatever reason, but I've generally been charged the rate for the type of vehicle I reserved. Is that what you encountered?

Most glaring example for me was at the airport in Bismarck, ND, where the compact model I'd reserved was no longer on-hand. Neither were the intermediate or full-size sedans. All they had left was a Ford F-150. (Different rental agency.) This was right as the pandemic was ending, and most rental agencies were still rebuilding after liquidating large parts of their fleets.

RamblingRose

(1,038 posts)
7. I had reserved a compact car for our trip to Baltimore but they gave me a much bigger car. We had
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:14 PM
Jan 2023

wanted something that would be easy to drive in the city, be easy to park & get good gas mileage. I'm very petite so car size is a big issue. The lady at the desk was very ugly & unapologetic about the situation and we got into a heated exchange. I normally don't opt for the insurance but since we would be driving in Baltimore I went ahead and purchased it for an additional charge of about $350. When we got to Baltimore we ended up parking the car and Ubering everywhere.

Like you, when we returned home I tried to find a number to call and complain. I couldn't find anyplace to direct my complaint so I turned to the BBB and they were able to hunt down the powers that be. I ended up getting the cost of the insurance back which was fine with me. This Avis was at a non-airport location and independently owned & operated.

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
5. this is one time when you might wish you had twitter.
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 09:33 PM
Jan 2023

i don't know about this company precisely, but when i had a couple Uber rides go bad (one guy stranded me at the first of two stops, another refused to go up the driveway at my hotel) and then the time I left my phone in the Uber, Twitter was the best way to reach them. They literally did not have a phone number!

companies monitor their social media and if you let them know all this on twitter I bet you will get a response and possibly a refund or credit for your next rental.

i hate that this is so. I deleted my twitter and the next time i have this sort of issue don't know what I'll do.

ETA facebook or Instagram might also be an avenue.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
6. they have been in trouble with some of their practices
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 11:42 PM
Jan 2023

I prefer enterprise, but even then they will vary by location. Tucson airport has always been good. a few "neighborhood" locations not great, one just awful.

yes write president and cc other relevant entities.

Ms. Toad

(34,073 posts)
9. My biggest success was when I found an independent review site and published a 1 star review.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 04:02 PM
Jan 2023

Someone used my phone number to sign up for job recruiting leads at a company with a pretty good reputation.

I started getting about a dozen texts a day with leads for jobs. I tried to unenroll according to the directions in the text to no avail.

Next I called the company - who couldn't find my enrollment. After some frustrating conversation, I learned that they have franchises (indistinguishable but for the name) over which they claim to have no control, despite the fact that the only contact information available in the texts I was receiving point directly to the corporate entity. I pointed out that the licensing agreement must include some means of control - to ensure that the franchises didn't damage their reputation. They insisted there was nothing they could do.

So I found a review site with lots of ratings, an overall score for the company between 4 and 5, and responses by the company to negative reviews. I blasted them with a 1 star review and promised to return and change the rating if they resolved the problem. It was resolved within 24 hours - after a couple of weeks of frustration trying to go through official channels. As I promised, I returned and updated the recommendation. Not a 5 star rating, but I did note how quickly they had responded and corrected the problem in response to the initial rating I had provided.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Yes. But as it happens my last complaint, yesterday, was to Walmart's
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 04:17 PM
Jan 2023

handy system. Not exactly a car, just a decomposing cucumber that had been shopped for my pickup, but it took literally less than a minute to report, including offering an explanation for their benefit, and generate a refund.

Not all companies are the same.

That said, friends are tearing their hair over Home Depot's system -- purchased a washer over a month ago which broke down the next day. Their problem wasn't in reporting it though or getting responses before Christmas: HD won't replace, insurance won't reimburse, manufacturer requires them to wait for a replacement part to arrive from It's-a-Secret.

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