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Girard442

(6,073 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:27 AM Jan 2023

I think it's likely the R House members demanding terms for raising the debt ceiling...

...is a smoke screen. I think it's more likely they plan to block any increase in the debt ceiling and thereby drive America's economy (and the world's) right off a cliff.

Much more effective than lighting the Reichstag on fire.

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I think it's likely the R House members demanding terms for raising the debt ceiling... (Original Post) Girard442 Jan 2023 OP
They plan to make Vlad a happy man in many ways. lark Jan 2023 #1
Eric Swalwell: Let's start calling the debt ceiling exactly what it is: paying Donald Trump's bills Botany Jan 2023 #2
I don't think they realize JanLip Jan 2023 #3
I believe some of them are willing to endure some measure of hardship EYESORE 9001 Jan 2023 #5
Maybe themselves Mad_Machine76 Jan 2023 #8
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Jan 2023 #4
Some people just want to watch it burn. Arthur_Frain Jan 2023 #6
They'll fold, just like in the past. They know President Biden won't deal with their terrorist style PortTack Jan 2023 #7

lark

(23,102 posts)
1. They plan to make Vlad a happy man in many ways.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:31 AM
Jan 2023

1 - weaken America and Europe by destroying our economies
2 - refuse all help to Ukraine enabling Vlad to win there
3 - weaken NATO to help Vlad

Botany

(70,508 posts)
2. Eric Swalwell: Let's start calling the debt ceiling exactly what it is: paying Donald Trump's bills
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:33 AM
Jan 2023

Let’s start calling the debt ceiling exactly what it is: paying Donald Trump’s bills. It’s not allowing for new spending,
it’s paying for much of what Trump and @SpeakerMcCarthy recently spent.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1616201202894573589


https://mobile.twitter.com/79Wahoo/status/1616205104637480984/photo/1 great graph @ this link

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Many of the bat shit crazy republicans now in the House see crashing America's and the world's economy
as their path to a Christo Fascist empire. 70% of the House Republicans voted not to accept the outcome
of the 2020 Presidential election. These people are Fox News nutballs.

JanLip

(845 posts)
3. I don't think they realize
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:40 AM
Jan 2023

They will be hurting themselves too. They think that It will hurt just us libs. Stupid is as stupid does

EYESORE 9001

(25,939 posts)
5. I believe some of them are willing to endure some measure of hardship
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:56 AM
Jan 2023

if they believe it hurts their perceived enemies even worse.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
8. Maybe themselves
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 01:45 PM
Jan 2023

but what about their voters? Their voters probably don't fully understand what they're signing on for and may not be as willing to endure the kind of hardship their "leaders" are.

Arthur_Frain

(1,850 posts)
6. Some people just want to watch it burn.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 11:13 AM
Jan 2023

That’s usually only the stupid people.

There’s a lot of stupid people in congress right now.

There’s more stupid people here in the US than you thought there were.

Unfortunately there are also more sick/evil people than I had hoped.

PortTack

(32,769 posts)
7. They'll fold, just like in the past. They know President Biden won't deal with their terrorist style
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 01:25 PM
Jan 2023

Demands to cut SS and MC.

They had a trifecta the first 2 yrs with the orange mass and didn’t do a damn thing. They are pushing this now because they want a dem president to be complicit in those cuts…it ain’t happening, President Biden already said he would not do that.

There are those in DC that wield a lot of power, turtle being one of them, he’s already said that the US would not default on its debt. Yes…I know it’s congress, but kevieee doesn’t have ANY power. Turtle will bring his weight down on mcquarthy and eventually it will collapse.

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