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If you are not using bamboo paper towels, napkins etc pleas start! It is not that expensive (Original Post) Maraya1969 Jan 2023 OP
An interesting alternative but, Disaffected Jan 2023 #1
I can tell you that you can grow bamboo in the corner of your yard and it will grow Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #3
It's an invasive species - so outside of its natural enviorment, Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #19
I regret to say that my gardening book told me decades ago to only grow bamboo in pots... Hekate Jan 2023 #22
There are two types of bamboo. Clumping and running. Phoenix61 Jan 2023 #24
As an Advanced Master Gardener... llmart Jan 2023 #23
Here is another link to how China is using bamboo to combat climate change Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #5
excellent point GenXer47 Jan 2023 #11
Definitely an invasive species and VERY hard to summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #14
I have a bamboo grove in my backyard Dave says Jan 2023 #20
According to these folks, check to see if it's FSC certified: sl8 Jan 2023 #16
Great Post! leftieNanner Jan 2023 #2
BAMBOO TOILET PAPER... 2naSalit Jan 2023 #4
According to Google bamboo does not block drains. Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #8
I didn't inquire beyond the report by the friend and plumber... 2naSalit Jan 2023 #10
Likely miss-diagnosed FreeState Jan 2023 #25
That's from a company that sells the product. sl8 Jan 2023 #26
+1 2naSalit Jan 2023 #29
and hemp? keithbvadu2 Jan 2023 #6
I haven't tried paper products Bettie Jan 2023 #7
Walgreens used to sell bamboo toilet paper, then stopped! 🤬 SheltieLover Jan 2023 #9
Would have to research their manufacturing processes. Sogo Jan 2023 #12
Does Bounty do bamboo? That's the only paper towel I use. It has the half sheets which I love. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #13
A lot of them have 1/2 sheets now Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #27
Double the price on Walmart app miss-nasty Jan 2023 #15
Bamboo will not prevent climate change. At best it can only help to mitigate it Kaleva Jan 2023 #17
Another good tool in the toolbox. Torchlight Jan 2023 #18
Or better yet, use a bidet. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #21
I do that too and I've told people here several times. It's just that drying is a problem sometimes Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #28
Mine has a blow dryer function, works perfectly. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #32
I wonder if those... 2naSalit Jan 2023 #30
No, it probably uses about a pint of water. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #31
Too expensive for me and for many others Meowmee Jan 2023 #33
I use Bamboo coffee filters SouthernDem4ever Jan 2023 #34
Well, I have bamboo cutting boards and socks, but that was far as I've got, lol Shanti Shanti Shanti Jan 2023 #35
How does it feel on your tush? Polybius Jan 2023 #36

Disaffected

(4,555 posts)
1. An interesting alternative but,
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:14 PM
Jan 2023

what is the environmental impact of growing bamboo? For instance, do they clear-cut forests to grow the stuff?

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
3. I can tell you that you can grow bamboo in the corner of your yard and it will grow
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:18 PM
Jan 2023

like a weed. I think the fact that it grows so fast is pertinent in its ecofriendly label.

I guess more can be found out but I am just glad no one has to cut down any trees for my paper products anymore.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
19. It's an invasive species - so outside of its natural enviorment,
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:13 PM
Jan 2023

It is like Kudzu, Cane Toads, or Lionfish.

This is particularly true because of how easily it spreads - and how hard it is to get rid of.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
22. I regret to say that my gardening book told me decades ago to only grow bamboo in pots...
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:22 PM
Jan 2023

It makes a bad neighbor because of its invasive ways.

Possibly retrofitted US paper mills could buy the raw harvested stalks from countries where bamboo is native and process it here. Or, as with so much else these days, we buy the finished product from an infinitely-long supply chain.



Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
24. There are two types of bamboo. Clumping and running.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:52 PM
Jan 2023

Clumping is fine to grow anywhere. It doesn’t spread anymore than any other type of clumping grass. Running bamboo will send out runners 20ft away from the main stalk.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
5. Here is another link to how China is using bamboo to combat climate change
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:27 PM
Jan 2023
https://chinadialogue.net/en/climate/fighting-climate-change-with-bamboo/

Fast-growing, versatile and able to thrive on sloping, degraded soils, giant bamboos have long been considered a valuable source of income – sometimes called “poor man’s timber” – as well as an important tool for stabilising slopes and preventing soil erosion.

More recently, bamboo has gained attention alongside tree-planting for its potential role in removing large amounts of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, which would contribute to keeping global warming below 1.5C.

A fast-growing super grass
Bamboo can help China curb greenhouse gas emissions in two ways: through its forests, which act as giant carbon sinks, and its durable products, which store carbon and can serve as a replacement for timber, concrete and steel.

The secret to bamboo’s success is that it’s a grass not a tree. It grows fast and accumulates carbon quickly, with an extensive root system that survives annual harvesting. This makes bamboo a fast-regenerating resource, which can supply more biomass than both natural and planted forests. Once mature, bamboo poles can be selectively harvested every year, and used to make a wide range of durable products, which lock in carbon for the duration of a product’s lifespan. This high yield makes bamboo a surprisingly effective carbon sink and important nature-based approach to mitigating global warming. One study estimates that a one-hectare plantation of bamboo and its products could store 306 tonnes of carbon over a 60-year period compared with 178 tonnes for Chinese fir trees.


Carbon accumulation: managed moso bamboo versus Chinese fir.
 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
11. excellent point
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:40 PM
Jan 2023

Reed players (clarinets, sax, oboe) were told for years that the bamboo used to make the reeds only grew in a select area of France. The truth is, they kept it quarantined there so it wouldn't take over - it's considered an invasive species.
You don't get somethin for nothin, was my Dad's way to explain conservation of energy. A fast-growing species like this completely depletes the soil in no time. So, there is a trade off.
It's perfect for crappy little uninhabited islands, though, and I do like the stuff for flooring, pillows, pretty much anything. But you have to be careful where you introduce it.

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
14. Definitely an invasive species and VERY hard to
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:59 PM
Jan 2023

eradicate.

I'd like to see more research on its use and impact on soil before deciding. It sounds like a promising possibility, but one that comes with potential risks.

Dave says

(4,617 posts)
20. I have a bamboo grove in my backyard
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:14 PM
Jan 2023

I can attest to its fast growth and the near impossibility, for me, to eradicate it. It does make for a nice privacy screen for my porch, which is probably why the previous owner planted it. But it’s spread into a neighbor’s yard where it’s not wanted. Not sure what to do.

Many of the trees are 15 feet tall, although their trunks are only an inch in diameter.

sl8

(13,785 posts)
16. According to these folks, check to see if it's FSC certified:
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 07:27 PM
Jan 2023

I don't know much about it, but maybe a place to start.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jennifer-skene/hemp-bidets-bamboo-issue-tissue-faqs-answered

I use tissue products made from bamboo. Is that ok?

Bamboo-based products can be sustainable alternatives to those using virgin wood pulp, though they’re not quite as low-impact as post-consumer recycled products or alternative fibers from agricultural residue. When you buy products made from bamboo, you need to make sure the bamboo is sustainably sourced (read: FSC-certified); otherwise it could have come from areas that were deforested for the express purpose of growing bamboo.

leftieNanner

(15,114 posts)
2. Great Post!
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:14 PM
Jan 2023

I only purchase 100% recycled TP and paper towels.

Nice to know that bamboo is another good alternative.

The fact that companies are chopping down forests to make toilet paper is unconscionable.

2naSalit

(86,642 posts)
4. BAMBOO TOILET PAPER...
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:24 PM
Jan 2023

Does NOT break down on it's way to the sewage system!! It collects and eventually backs up whole buildings! Happened at my friend's apartment, which was flooded, when they finally dug out the clog, it was bamboo toilet paper.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
8. According to Google bamboo does not block drains.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:30 PM
Jan 2023

Are you sure they didn't use an enormous amount? Because so far all I see it that it is very biodegradable. And have used it for about 2 years now with no problem.

Actually it would be good to find out the manufacturer. Perhaps it wasn't 100% bamboo?

2naSalit

(86,642 posts)
10. I didn't inquire beyond the report by the friend and plumber...
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:40 PM
Jan 2023

It clogged way past the building's system. He lives in a rather progressive area where people do their best to mitigate their footprint. I only know about it because his recording studio was affected and I had to reschedule an appointment. When I did get over there a week later, they still had dryer fans in the halls and basement, after the cleaning. At least the studio wasn't gross.

Bamboo is unusual and I have found it to be a pretty long lasting fiber, I do't know what happens during processing but it was a problem for an entire apartment building a couple months ago.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
25. Likely miss-diagnosed
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:57 PM
Jan 2023
https://reelpaper.com/blogs/reel-talk/bamboo-toilet-paper-crash-course

Does Bamboo Toilet Paper Break Down?
Many eco-conscious consumers are curious about how well bamboo toilet paper actually breaks down. They are, understandably, not only conscious of toilet paper’s effect on the environment but also its effect on their plumbing.

Bamboo Toilet Paper in the Pipes
Oftentimes, we flush items – like paper towels, wipes, and small toys – down the toilet that simply don’t break up, thereby clogging toilets and backing up lines. Clogged pipes can affect all of the plumbing in the house, which is especially problematic if you have a septic tank.

Unfortunately, toilet paper can clog pipes, as well. Using bath tissue that’s too thick, or simply using too much, can easily cause a headache-inducing clog. To avoid the extra plumbing costs, many people will opt for low-quality one-ply toilet paper. But before reaching for what feels like dollar store sandpaper, consider a less painful alternative.

Is bamboo toilet paper septic safe? Yes! Bamboo toilet paper makes using the bathroom both comfortable and easy on the septic tank. In addition to being strong (and soft) enough for use, bamboo toilet tissue also effortlessly breaks down in water. This means that water will freely flow through your pipes without clumps of toilet paper backing them up, making it septic safe toilet paper. It’s no wonder that some plumbers think bamboo toilet paper is one of the best toilet papers for plumbing.

sl8

(13,785 posts)
26. That's from a company that sells the product.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:04 PM
Jan 2023

It might very well be fine for septic, but I wouldn't take the word of a company that sells it.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
7. I haven't tried paper products
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jan 2023

but I recently bought some bamboo fabric socks. They are SO soft and they don't pill over multiple washes.

So, I'll give the paper products a shot.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. Walgreens used to sell bamboo toilet paper, then stopped! 🤬
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:35 PM
Jan 2023

I loved it & it was super cheap!

Where do you find them?

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
12. Would have to research their manufacturing processes.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 06:42 PM
Jan 2023

I have extremely sensitive skin, and can only use certain paper products that don't use chlorine and formaldehyde (!) in their processing.

miss-nasty

(251 posts)
15. Double the price on Walmart app
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 07:09 PM
Jan 2023

I like to help anyway I can. That said I had someone else tell me this and when I costed them out it didn’t work for someone living in a fixed income. I found that “Bamtime” is $1.25 a roll and “Angel Soft” is $0.65 a roll.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
17. Bamboo will not prevent climate change. At best it can only help to mitigate it
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:04 PM
Jan 2023

And that's assuming large swaths of land are planted with bamboo. The 30 million or so hectares planted in bamboo today will have to be increased to over 300 million hectares. An area over 4 times the size of Texas.



https://drawdown.org/solutions/bamboo-production

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
18. Another good tool in the toolbox.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:09 PM
Jan 2023

There are multiple, convenient methods of reducing our footprint, but to do so, we have to get past the "Well, I know I'll make it after the apocalypse 'cause of my basement is full of beans and guns. I don't know (care) about my neighbors though, those poor saps are on their own" to get real traction done on a collective scale.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
33. Too expensive for me and for many others
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:40 PM
Jan 2023

Also I don’t think bamboo is a better alternative, it’s an invasive plant which has its own issues. I like it for clothes and sheets though.

Even regular paper towel and tissue is too costly now so we have cut back to use less. I use towels/ dish rags etc. for a lot of things now and wash them.

At costco a 10 pack 230 facial tissues per cube is $20-24.99 depending on sales. Their version is $17.99 for 360 tissues total, it’s a lot more expensive.

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
36. How does it feel on your tush?
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 11:10 PM
Jan 2023
Seriously though, does it feel like normal tp, paper towels, and napkins?
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