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WarGamer

(18,830 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:08 PM Jan 2023

Makes you wonder how many Classified Docs are really out there?

Carter, Clinton, Gore, Shrub, Vader, Obama, Papa Bush estate, Pence...

Not that there is any risk to 10+ year old documents... just curious??

Not that I'd expect to find anything from the Shrub years... I think they burnt more documents than the Nazis in 1945 in Berlin when they first heard Russian artillery fire...

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Makes you wonder how many Classified Docs are really out there? (Original Post) WarGamer Jan 2023 OP
Check your hamper lame54 Jan 2023 #1
A lot I suspect Yonnie3 Jan 2023 #2
Exactly. I suspect with both Pence and Biden, it would be documents a VP would normally be brewens Jan 2023 #4
10 year old documents can still be VERY embarrassing Model35mech Jan 2023 #3
Just checked eBay multigraincracker Jan 2023 #5
maybe it's just me, but, I go through my paper clutter occasionally to see what I have.... IcyPeas Jan 2023 #6
I do that also. llmart Jan 2023 #8
I think this happens inadvertently all the time. It has ... Whiskeytide Jan 2023 #7
Stuff gets classified. Often, for a very long time. usonian Jan 2023 #9
Wish there was a rec button for posts (replies) in addition to threads.... thx!! WarGamer Jan 2023 #10
Good story. I'll start a thread. usonian Jan 2023 #12
I bet Cheney has a personal library full of them prodigitalson Jan 2023 #11
Add Devin Nunes to that list Generic Brad Jan 2023 #13

Yonnie3

(19,550 posts)
2. A lot I suspect
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:17 PM
Jan 2023

An acquaintance of mine was complaining that she had to be in a secure area to clip news items from newspapers and magazines. She did a paste up of them for briefings. My understanding was that the secret was what the brass was being briefed about, not the specific content.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
4. Exactly. I suspect with both Pence and Biden, it would be documents a VP would normally be
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:42 PM
Jan 2023

seeing as part of the job. Most of it might be routine briefings. Routine but still classified.

Trump on the other hand probably had highly technical and sensitive information our enemies would pay, or already did pay big money for. I'm sure it was stuff someone was told to grab. Trump probably couldn't describe or give us any details about what he had.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
3. 10 year old documents can still be VERY embarrassing
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:38 PM
Jan 2023

it just depends on the documents in question.

Politically this is really fairly perilous.

IcyPeas

(25,734 posts)
6. maybe it's just me, but, I go through my paper clutter occasionally to see what I have....
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:47 PM
Jan 2023

Don't people go through their file cabinets* once in a while?

*or other places where documents may be kept.

llmart

(17,715 posts)
8. I do that also.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 07:00 PM
Jan 2023

However, there is a special classification of hoarding personality where the person hoards papers/magazines/newspapers, etc. Just like some people think all their tchotchkes are going to be worth something some day, others think they're going to need every piece of paper or expired coupons or whatever.

Whiskeytide

(4,659 posts)
7. I think this happens inadvertently all the time. It has ...
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:51 PM
Jan 2023

… only become an issue because Тяцмp did it intentionally and was caught publicly.

usonian

(26,428 posts)
9. Stuff gets classified. Often, for a very long time.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 08:29 PM
Jan 2023
US pilot shot down four Soviet MiGs in 30 minutes – and kept it a secret for 50 years
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/20/asia/korean-war-fighter-pilot-soviet-shootdown-intl-hnk-ml/index.html


On a cold November day in 1952, Williams shot down four Soviet fighter jets – and became a legend no one would hear about for more than 50 years.

What ensued was more than a half-hour of aerial combat, with Williams constantly turning and weaving – the one area where the F9F could compete with the Soviet aircraft – to not let the superior MiGs get their guns fixed on him.

“Following the battle, Williams was personally interviewed by several high-ranking Navy admirals, the Secretary of Defense, and also the President, after which he was instructed to not talk about his engagement as officials feared the incident might cause a devastating increase of tensions between the US and Soviet Union, and possibly ignite World War Three,” the website says.

The records of Williams’ dogfight were promptly classified by US officials and he was sworn to secrecy, meaning it would take more than five decades before his victories could be fully recognized.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
13. Add Devin Nunes to that list
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 08:46 PM
Jan 2023

I always had a bad feeling about him when he was charing the House Intelligence Committee.

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