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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm so glad I live in Michigan. The weather might suck, but our State government no longer does.
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2naSalit
(86,935 posts)Tolerate the low elevation, I might consider moving there! The cattle kkkulture out here is getting pretty intolerable out here. They really hate the wildlife too.
NBachers
(17,186 posts)Monsieur_Grumpe
(111 posts)Too conservative and racist back then. Good to see Michigan change for the better.
FYI. Moved to Minnesota.
marmar
(77,118 posts)We got our first legit snow of the season this week and some of my neighbors have gone into full drama queen mode. People need to have a Vernors and a Buddy's pizza and chill.
MiHale
(9,800 posts)Warm, flat Vernors and a slice of cold Buddys pizza in the mind-fogged morning for breakfast.
paleotn
(18,013 posts)It's only the Jan to maybe mid-Mar stretch that can be brutal. 2 to 2.5 months. And the payoff is an absolutely glorious summer that won't kill you in it's own right. And the Fall. You guys have the same glorious fall we have.
Other than a brief spat of snow around Christmas, we've been crazy warm in northern New England. Back in the snow machine now with seasonal weather on tap for next week. Still, I don't mind it. Even the depths of Winter has it's own wonders. Oh...and sane politics. What's not to like?
catbyte
(34,536 posts)is projected to be the #1 climate refuge in the world by the year 2100. Unless, of course, they try to drain the Great Lakes in order to satisfy water needs out west. (Fat chance of that happening, though.)
But today is gonna suck hard. I'm seeing predictions of anywhere from 6" of snow to 4" plus freezing rain beginning this afternoon. So it's off to the store this morning for fixings to make Great Northern bean soup and dill bread for dinner.
marmar
(77,118 posts)catbyte
(34,536 posts)just in case. Luckily, I have a carport that lets me avoid the worst of it.
MiHale
(9,800 posts)The nice part about a low snow winter
its quiet, not that many snow machines sauntering around.
The nicest part of THIS winter
the knowledge that Democratic women are steering the state ship.
Feels like a mug of hot chocolate in front of the fireplace.
catbyte
(34,536 posts)EYESORE 9001
(26,027 posts)Im starting to look semi-seriously at moving to Michigan after I retire. Ohio really pisses me off lately with all the reactionary laws being bandied about. And dont get me started on the corruption. Im convinced its the reason for higher prices in dispensaries. Only half-kidding.
Better Days Ahoy
(698 posts)Moved there for work. Bought a house in Royal Oak in 2012 and sold it two years later for a 40% profit.
Moved back home to Massachusetts be because that's where my life is.
But I'd still be in Michigan if I could have stayed.
It agreed with me. Like the people and was there as the economy turned. Wish I could have been there to cheer on the Dems as they supplanted the morons
barbtries
(28,820 posts)here in NC it promises to get worse and worse
Woodswalker
(549 posts)barbtries
(28,820 posts)the republicans have gerrymandered so hard that even though Democrats get more votes, they don't win. We seem to be in a race to achieve Alabama.
mountain grammy
(26,668 posts)And Michigan showed the way. It wasnt magic, it was dedication to one person one vote. Ungerrymandered Michigan is blue! Many thanks to all involved.
FakeNoose
(32,897 posts)We're seeing the same in Pennsylvania, even though there are still a lot of red counties here.
The blue voters aren't afraid to speak up and some are running for office. The gerrymandered map was shot down in 2018. We have voted our convictions for the last three cycles. It has really made a difference.
mountain grammy
(26,668 posts)I love your state and its so good to see it coming back.
Wisconsin next I hope.
Hope22
(1,907 posts)It is a thing of beauty!
Buckeyeblue
(5,505 posts)But Spring, Summer (especially summer) are beautiful. While the south is locked up in their air conditioning in the summer, I'm outside enjoying the longest days of the year.
tavernier
(12,416 posts)But as a long ago Michigander, I dont miss it at all. I dont mind snow and cold, but there were years when the sun didnt poke through the clouds for months and that was so damn depressing. But youre right, summer is beautiful
both weeks.
I guess Im doomed to stay in the Keys. Its perfect for me, except for traffic during snowbird time when US 1 is bumper to bumper for miles with cars from Michigan.
Ok, Im about to get to get flogged so Ill shut my mouth now and run.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)We have a Democratic House and the Governor is a D.
It is shocking what happens when you end gerrymandering.
ancianita
(36,221 posts)pamdb
(1,333 posts)We have Gretchen for 4 more years. Then who?
Debbie is retiring. We need to replace her with another woman. Ive been hearing rumors of
Jocelyn Benson. And Elisa Slotin has already announced. And lets not forget Mallory McMorrow. She could run for sec.of state if Benson runs for Senate. We only have a
what, 2 seat majority in both House and Senate. But we got prop 3 passed. MAybe Benson could run for governor unless Gilchrist runs. I always felt kind of bad for Gilchrist, hes kinda overshadowed by these amazing women.
We have no spring, havent had one in years. Weather goes from 30s to 40s to 70s in a matter of weeks. One day theres still snow on the ground and the next week youre trying to remember where you packed the shorts away.But the summers and falls are great. Little humid in the summer at times but thats what air conditioning is for. And pools. And the lakes. I hate winter, when we are dogless ( hopefully not for a few more years yet) I want to spend at least a month in AZ.
And we have water. I keep telling family in AZ, we may have winter but we dont have to worry about water. And keep your hands off it!
Thunderbeast
(3,430 posts)When I saw her legislative response to the "groomer" charge, I saw the next Obama.
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Poiuyt
(18,134 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)smh...
I wish too.
HardPort
(1,474 posts)Just kidding. I'm a huge fan, and my Michigan roots go deep on both sides of my family. And the Lions are definitely trending up.
Thanks for sharing this clip; very inspirational!
llmart
(15,567 posts)let's not forget that we've suffered through Engler and that sheep in wolves clothing, I'm just a nerdy kind of guy, Snyder plus some real lulus in our State House. I've lived here 30 years now and it hasn't all been an admirably run state. I just want to see us to progress even more and that'll take work by all of us. In my opinion we need to also follow what the GOP is doing with school boards across the state.
Evolve Dammit
(16,817 posts)dlk
(11,600 posts)Voters in Michigan wised up.
murielm99
(30,783 posts)We have a great progressive governor and a Democratic supermajority. Our senators are wonderful as well.
roamer65
(36,748 posts)catbyte
(34,536 posts)Xavier Breath
(3,684 posts)Each day we here take yet another step deeper into corporate theocracy.
"Ohio: it's beneath Michigan." Brother, you aint lyin.'
Cheezoholic
(2,047 posts)Along with IL and to some extent even OH we are slowly scratching and crawling our way back out of this repuke abyss. Our surrounding states are creating a great back drop for exposing the likes of Jim Banks for who they really are. Look at Rep. Victoria Sparks, a protege of Banks, and how she is trying to separate herself from the crazy train shes been riding on in the house. The MAGA base in this state is crumbling, as any structure with a false foundation will.
The one thing we unfortunately need is money. The party in this state was splitting up a 5 year olds piggy bank during the midterms while their party had 10s of millions coming in from outside the state. We are not as red as people on the outside think and MI's example has inspired the party here.
NBachers
(17,186 posts)roamer65
(36,748 posts)Cha
(298,030 posts)America!!
BComplex
(8,087 posts)I wish so badly that we could recover and be more like Michigan!
caraher
(6,279 posts)Voters made it possible to have the government represent the people by cracking down on the gerrymander:
Imagine what we could do is the US House and Senate reflected the people and not electoral shenanigans!
catbyte
(34,536 posts)couldn't overcome the MIGQP gerrymandering of 2011. We had to wait until after the 2020 census for the Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission to begin righting all those wrongs. Their work paid off in 2022. I'm a lifelong Michigander and I can't remember a better time for Democrats. We hold all of the major State offices, both houses of the legislature, and are the majority on the MI Supreme Court. It's a damned shame that so many states don't allow citizen petitions to get proposals like the anti-gerrymandering prop on the ballot. It seems so undemocratic.