Tyre Nichols should not have had ONE FINGER placed upon his body by the cops.

[LuckyCharms]

All of this fucking blah blah about whether he resisted or did not resist, whether he drove recklessly, whether he was cuffed or not cuffed, whether he could or could not have gotten his hands behind his back, whether he should have ran or not.

The fact of the matter is that he was attacked for no reason. You get startled by four guys jumping you and beating the shit out of you while you're still trying to figure out what's going on? You're going to run like hell if you can. Anyone would. I can't see how you would be able to stop yourself from running if you were physically able to.

If I walk up to some random person and place my hand on them, technically, that's assault if it is unwanted.

Being a police officer does not grant you some magic power that allows you to touch someone for no reason.

[aocommunalpunch]

1. Until they are PERSONALLY LIABLE

this shit will continue. They have plot armor like no other. ACAB.

[we can do it]

3. This exactly.

It's long past time these terrorists personally pay for their crimes.
When will taxpayers get the clue that they are PAYING for these violent criminals behavior?

[AkFemDem]

13. Good luck getting a fortune

From a guy who makes $50k a year… how much savings and assets do you think they actually have?

If the fear of *prison* isn’t enough to stop cops like those in Memphis from committing violent crimes, what makes you think the loss of a non-existent savings account will?

[aocommunalpunch]

17. I don't care how much money they have.

Take it all. RUIN THEM. The rest of the pigs will start to play nice. QED. ACAB.

[AkFemDem]

18. Again. You're not making sense...

The way to “ruin” them, is to put them in prison. If fear of going to prison isn’t enough to stop bad cops, why would fear of financial liability??

Makes zero sense. I get that you’re enraged and want to lash out but you’re dreaming if you think the fear of financial liability is going to stop anything.

[Walleye]

2. The cop culture. Right away they start with abusive language. Doesn't matter who you are

[XanaDUer2]

22. I used to be shocked

By how the protect and serve crowd would scream f bombs at anyone and everyone. How is this allowed. It's on most reality cop shows. Traffic stop of grandma? GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE CAR!!!

smh

[LuckyCharms]

6. Are you ok?

[aocommunalpunch]

7. You're not cool with the murder you watched?

Sue these PIGS into non-existence. Make them beg for scraps on the streets. Make them KNOW financial RUIN. ACAB.

[Woodswalker]

9. I agree and these cops ruined their lives in addition to Mr Nichols

the media is failing to mention there was a car chase which was pretty clear on the way they pulled him from the car. When you lead the police on a car chase you don't get usual license and registration request and keep your hands where I can see them, you get pulled from the car and thrown to the ground.

[yardwork]

12. You're peddling right wing talking points.

Just stop.

[yardwork]

15. There's no evidence that there was a car chase.

No such evidence is offered.

[LuckyCharms]

16. +1

[LuckyCharms]

11. Listen...

They told him to get on the ground.

He was on the ground.

They had him in a position where he was unable to do exactly what 4 different people were screaming at him to do.

They were inflicting pain on him.

What is it you don't understand here?

Wait, nevermind.

I think you understand exactly what happened.

My bad.

[malaise]

5. Apparently African American people

have no agency over our own bodies when agents of the state show up regardless of their race.

[LuckyCharms]

8. Yep!

Treated like animals. It's been like this forever.

Apparently, America is unable to enact laws to stop this.

[malaise]

10. That requires will

Where there's a will there's a way

What pisses me off is the US pretense of being the bastion of human rights.

[yardwork]

14. The assumptions that he must have done something wrong infuriate me.

The default assumption that the cops would not have done this unless they had a good reason - when the video itself shows them doing horrific, illegal things!

Why can't people admit that sometimes it's all entirely the cops' fault? That bad, evil things happen to Black people who haven't done anything wrong? Why must blame always be shifted to the victims of authoritarianism?

I don't understand.

[AkFemDem]

19. He never should have been chased, period.

A lot of cities have gone to no-chase policies for traffic violations, in part because chases cause accidents- but more pertinent here is the fact a chase has an actual physiological effect on both the pursued and the pursuer. There’s a massive adrenaline surge, the pursuer becomes enraged, the primal part of the pursued’s brain switches to “fight or flight”. No good can come from police chases for routine traffic violations. De-escalation should always be the first and primary goal, even if that means cancelling a pursuit.

[LuckyCharms]

20. I have not yet heard anything about a chase?

Everything I have read says that he was pulled over at an intersection for "suspected reckless driving", while the traffic cameras show no such reckless driving.

[yardwork]

21. I've heard nothing about any chase.

If there had been a chase, wouldn't we have heard about it? I heard there was a traffic stop.

[Jedi Guy]

23. Not sure where discussion of a chase is coming from.

I watched the bodycam footage. One of the officers who beat the shit out of him mentioned seeing him drive into oncoming traffic, but then stop at a red light with his turn signal on. If Mr. Nichols really was driving recklessly, I'd think he'd have blown through the red light, so I'm guessing he was possibly distracted while driving.

Either way, once they'd caught up to him at the red light, they should've gone lights and sirens, gotten him to pull over, and conducted a normal traffic stop. Reckless driving as was described isn't a high-risk felony stop situation, and even if it were, swarming the car like that is stupid from an officer safety perspective.

If, after the stop, they had asked him to exit the vehicle for a weapons search and he'd refused to do so, they could legally remove him from the vehicle by force, if necessary. But they decided instead to skip that step and things played out very differently, so here we are.

[Mister Ed]

24. The Chief of Police stated yesterday that she's seen no evidence of reckless driving.

If Mr. Nichols had led officers on a chase, I'm sure the Chief would consider that "reckless driving". That leads me to doubt that he led officers on a chase.

But it's absurd that we even ponder the question. It wouldn't make a difference if he had led officers on a chase, because the penalty for that is not to be savagely beaten to death.

[Jedi Guy]

25. One would think a dashcam would've captured any supposed reckless driving.

If there had been a vehicle pursuit, a dashcam for sure would have captured that. Or, failing that, a pole camera, since one of those caught the beating in its entirety. If they have cameras on poles in residential areas, I'd think they'd also have traffic cams.

The whole situation was just a mess. I've seen high-risk felony traffic stops conducted with less bombast than that, and these are the stops where they have reason to believe someone wanted and potentially dangerous is in the car. They were hyper-aggressive from the word go, with zero apparent cause, and the aggression just escalated into a complete rage-spiral.

The beating they gave him was the sort of thing you'd expect to see when it's a very, very personal dispute. They weren't trying to subdue or restrain him. They were 100% intending to inflict as much pain as possible. The video is brutal.