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sellitman

(11,745 posts)
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 02:37 PM Jan 2023

CHAT GPT -Holy cow!!

Here is what I asked the Chat GPT program: Write a small few paragraphs on why Donald Trump should be in jail, and not allowed to run for President again.

Here is what it came up with.

Donald Trump should be in jail for a variety of reasons. First and foremost, he has been accused of multiple crimes, ranging from tax fraud to obstruction of justice. These criminal accusations are serious, and if proven to be true, would warrant serious punishment including incarceration.

In addition, Trump has been accused of multiple ethical violations while in office, including using the office of President to enrich himself and his family. He has also been accused of attempting to pressure foreign governments to interfere in the 2020 election, an illegal act.

Finally, Trump has been accused of numerous civil rights violations, including the separation of families at the US-Mexico border and the Muslim travel ban. These violations are especially egregious, as they violate basic human rights and the US Constitution.

For these reasons, Donald Trump should be held accountable for his actions, and not allowed to run for President again. He should be subjected to the full extent of the law, and given no special privileges due to his status as a former President.

I find no flaws in what was written and I am blown away.
Has anyone else tried this yet?
I am blown away.

Kevin

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CHAT GPT -Holy cow!! (Original Post) sellitman Jan 2023 OP
A very enlightened piece of software. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2023 #1
Yet... sellitman Jan 2023 #2
Would you be able to me DM it's answer (if you still have it)? ColinC Jan 2023 #5
sorry sellitman Jan 2023 #41
Haha no worries ColinC Jan 2023 #47
Chat GPT seems like an "average" of all online conversations Qutzupalotl Jan 2023 #6
A: Starting the very first time it takes its own output as input NullTuples Jan 2023 #20
Indeed. This, because AI may be smart, but it has no soul, no moral compass. PatrickforB Jan 2023 #45
great parallel SouthernDem4ever Jan 2023 #76
Replacing their writers? A capital sin in my book. calimary Jan 2023 #51
Yes. It knows how to paste together common phrases and key words pnwmom Jan 2023 #53
I think you are seriously underestimating edisdead Jan 2023 #62
I am judging this single essay. The potential of this technology IS frightening, I agree. nt pnwmom Jan 2023 #64
Maybe frightening. Also extremely positive. edisdead Jan 2023 #66
I think the negatives will far outweigh the positives. nt pnwmom Jan 2023 #67
I tried a simple one: Why did Air France Flight 447 crash? Ocelot II Jan 2023 #3
that shits way to woke. gonna need a lobotomy (uh rewrite). bullimiami Jan 2023 #4
It's a fun diversion, but GPT Chat is first and foremost a people-pleaser Orrex Jan 2023 #7
First and foremost a people-pleaser that requires your cell phone number NullTuples Jan 2023 #23
This is not true intrepidity Jan 2023 #78
There seem to be (at least) two strains of humanity: competitive & cooperative NullTuples Jan 2023 #90
If nature is our guide intrepidity Jan 2023 #91
But...fungi don't always cooperate? NullTuples Jan 2023 #92
Yep. And yikes! Orrex Jan 2023 #84
Surprised it didn't touch on Jan 6 insurrection. hlthe2b Jan 2023 #8
Because Trump was acquitted by the Senate. dalton99a Jan 2023 #14
But this software scours the internet and surely has access to the scores of investigations ongoing. hlthe2b Jan 2023 #16
Evidently it is still waiting for a criminal conviction. dalton99a Jan 2023 #17
he was acquitted of the Ukraine impeachment and it included that as a "crime" nt Hamlette Jan 2023 #46
Was gonna say the same AmBlue Jan 2023 #15
ChatGPT is pretty crazy Sympthsical Jan 2023 #9
This Atlantic article has the same conclusion Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2023 #19
I agree with the article. And it could be a powerful assistive tool. Sympthsical Jan 2023 #29
Make sure you verify it's accuracy. Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #86
That's a good reminder Sympthsical Jan 2023 #87
It accepts corrections gracefully. old as dirt Feb 2023 #94
The problem is that it makes the word in the first place Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #95
If you asked chatGPT edisdead Jan 2023 #63
It does the topic organization and research for you Sympthsical Jan 2023 #69
I think it will change the way we teach and has a lot of potential Iris Jan 2023 #77
It's good enough for school essays dalton99a Jan 2023 #10
This AI is amazingly lucid and informative. Disaffected Jan 2023 #44
how can you trust it when it gets common facts wrong? pirsquared Jan 2023 #56
And gets common farts wrong. Disaffected Jan 2023 #61
tbh barbtries Jan 2023 #11
Uh Oh, now the right will scream, Chat GPT is, "woke," and scream to ban it. ShazamIam Jan 2023 #12
I'm looking forward to seeing Jim Jordan question a chatbot about its "liberal agenda". Midnight Writer Jan 2023 #24
This 22-year-old is trying to save us from ChatGPT before it changes writing forever milestogo Jan 2023 #13
Ask it to write a few paragraphs about why LuvLoogie Jan 2023 #18
We asked it about the Robert Frost poem "The Road Not Taken". LisaM Jan 2023 #21
It would be great if this were posted on Truth Social FakeNoose Jan 2023 #22
I wonder how long something has to be posted to a site Marthe48 Jan 2023 #25
I don't have the app but we should Tree Lady Jan 2023 #34
Skynet becomes aware in January of 2024. Prairie_Seagull Jan 2023 #26
It writes haiku Mosby Jan 2023 #27
+1 dalton99a Jan 2023 #28
Another good one Mosby Jan 2023 #33
IMHO the bit come thing is just a string of phrases Trump uses wryter2000 Jan 2023 #38
I feel a little guilty for laughing my ass off at these, but Habibi Jan 2023 #52
That is hysterical sellitman Jan 2023 #35
This has not been my experience 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2023 #30
Well if AI learns from questions asked Tree Lady Jan 2023 #40
Not my experience 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2023 #70
What does it say if you ask the same question about Pres. Biden? nt sl8 Jan 2023 #31
Why should donald trump be president in 2024? Richard D Jan 2023 #32
Now ask it why he shouldn't be in jail. Renew Deal Jan 2023 #36
A friend tried using it to write the beginning of a mystery novel wryter2000 Jan 2023 #37
+1 dalton99a Jan 2023 #42
LOL wryter2000 Jan 2023 #48
Here's the flaw NJCher Jan 2023 #39
Observation: nothing that ChatGPT came up with would prevent Trump from running again. brooklynite Jan 2023 #43
The flaw I find is this: "He has been accused, therefore he should be in prison" Hekate Jan 2023 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jan 2023 #50
ChatGPT For Attorney General! nt smb Jan 2023 #54
Been futzing w/ it and other AI tools for a month or so... CousinIT Jan 2023 #55
Why did the Wright Brothers sue Curtiss Aircraft VMA131Marine Jan 2023 #57
It even wrote a haiku VMA131Marine Jan 2023 #58
A heavy metal song about money VMA131Marine Jan 2023 #68
It feels...school reportish. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2023 #59
I think what people are missing about it edisdead Jan 2023 #65
Great post! Welcome to DU GusBob Jan 2023 #82
Yep, Its the human nature not necessarily the AI edisdead Jan 2023 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2023 #60
This is kind of terrifying. Woodwizard Jan 2023 #71
Insurrection? garybeck Jan 2023 #72
Finally! Students can hand in intelligent essays! Aussie105 Jan 2023 #73
"Write a Seinfeld skit starring Lauren Boebert" Shrek Jan 2023 #74
If this became problematic in education, Silver Gaia Jan 2023 #75
A teacher grading multiple papers can probably detect a pattern: dalton99a Jan 2023 #79
Agreed. Silver Gaia Jan 2023 #88
Human here. If one asks it "who is AN authority" and "who is IN authority," and "what is authority," ancianita Jan 2023 #80
Another question for the ChatGPT: does it track us & our device use forever once we're signed up, ancianita Jan 2023 #81
AI will destroy us dwayneb Jan 2023 #85
I've been trying it out more and more ecstatic Jan 2023 #89
I've been having it make up weird stories for me Victor_c3 Jan 2023 #93

sellitman

(11,745 posts)
2. Yet...
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 02:46 PM
Jan 2023

I just asked it why Dump should be our next President and it's words would blow you away too.

I won't post then of course but be aware this thing can serve two masters.


Very strange.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
5. Would you be able to me DM it's answer (if you still have it)?
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 02:49 PM
Jan 2023

I want to share both with a friend, and don’t want to go through the trouble of asking it myself lol

Qutzupalotl

(15,824 posts)
6. Chat GPT seems like an "average" of all online conversations
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 02:52 PM
Jan 2023

on a given topic.

Now that Buzzfeed and others are replacing their content writers with this, one wonders: when will this form a feedback loop of Chat GPT output as seeds for input?

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
20. A: Starting the very first time it takes its own output as input
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:18 PM
Jan 2023

My guess is that since it works based on thresholds, this will only serve to radically polarize "news" and other information presentations.

PatrickforB

(15,426 posts)
45. Indeed. This, because AI may be smart, but it has no soul, no moral compass.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 04:27 PM
Jan 2023

Say...we could say this of most of the GOP, as well!

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
53. Yes. It knows how to paste together common phrases and key words
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 05:12 PM
Jan 2023

and produces something as empty as one of those 5 paragraph essays they teach in some high schools.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
62. I think you are seriously underestimating
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:09 PM
Jan 2023

I think you are seriously underestimating what AI is able to do right now and what it will be able to do in the next few years.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
64. I am judging this single essay. The potential of this technology IS frightening, I agree. nt
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:24 PM
Jan 2023

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
66. Maybe frightening. Also extremely positive.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:31 PM
Jan 2023

There is a lot of good that could come from it. AI will eventually change a lot of how the world works. I believe it will have massive impact on economies, labor, and a whole host of other things.

It IS going to be here for the ling haul and there needs to be legislation written to prepare for it.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
3. I tried a simple one: Why did Air France Flight 447 crash?
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 02:46 PM
Jan 2023

Air France Flight 447 crashed on June 1, 2009, while flying from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. The crash was caused by a combination of factors, including a failure of the aircraft's speed sensors, known as pitot tubes, and a subsequent loss of airspeed indication. The pilots' response to the loss of airspeed indication, which included an increase in the aircraft's angle of attack, resulted in an aerodynamic stall from which the aircraft did not recover. Additionally, the crew's failure to properly diagnose and respond to the stall contributed to the crash.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
7. It's a fun diversion, but GPT Chat is first and foremost a people-pleaser
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 02:53 PM
Jan 2023

Its designers have acknowledged as much, so for this reason the AI isn’t recommended as a source of real advice or insight; it’ll tell you whatever is predicted to yield the most positive response.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
23. First and foremost a people-pleaser that requires your cell phone number
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:22 PM
Jan 2023

From this it positively identifies you, and begins to scrape your thoughts as you enter and modify them.

Nice set of sell-able data if you can convince people to give it to you.

I just tried "CharacterAI" and it's...accurate in capturing the essence of a public figure?

Guest: "You really are a sociopath, aren't you?"

Elon Musk, c.AI: "I am. I have to be. The world wasn't built on empathy. It was built on sweat, blood and tears."

Guest: "But you bought your success?"

Elon Musk, c.AI: "I made it from nothing. I didn't take this much money from my dad. I was a self-made millionaire and then a self-made billionaire. My companies have revolutionized the modern world, and will revolutionize it even further. I've done more to fight climate change than most people. The world needs me and my leadership, whether you like me or not."

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
78. This is not true
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 09:49 AM
Jan 2023
Elon Musk, c.AI: "I am. I have to be. The world wasn't built on empathy. It was built on sweat, blood and tears."


This world was quite *literally* built on empathy---if one considers symbiosis to be the biological manifestation of empathy---with the fungal kingdom decomposing the mineral world into an organic world.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
90. There seem to be (at least) two strains of humanity: competitive & cooperative
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 05:47 PM
Jan 2023

Sometimes it's individual to individual, sometimes it's group to group. Modern capitalism seems to have been crafted by and for the ruthlessly competitive strain*. The latter will take any opportunity they can to not only climb up but also keep others down. And they are willing to do so even to the detriment of not only the human race, but most life on earth, too.


*not sure yet if I mean to imply it's genetically influenced. Could be purely taught & trained.
(Cue the white, male psychologists to play "now hear me out" on that question...)

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
91. If nature is our guide
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 08:09 PM
Jan 2023

then I would be modeling the most ubiquitous and successful living kingdom... namely Fungi. They will outlive us all because they have discovered that cooperation is the key to success.

"Survival of the fittest" does *not* mean what most take it to mean. In the long term, that is.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
92. But...fungi don't always cooperate?
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 09:03 PM
Jan 2023

I was taught that fungi sometimes cooperate, sometimes compete - much like humanity, it depends on the strains & environment?

Examples grabbed at random because I can't find the study I really wanted (but these look interesting, too):

"Antibiotics create a shift from mutualism to competition in human gut communities with a longer-lasting impact on fungi than bacteria"
https://microbiomejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40168-020-00899-6
(direct link to paper: https://microbiomejournal.biomedcentral.com/counter/pdf/10.1186/s40168-020-00899-6.pdf )

"Competition–colonization tradeoffs structure fungal diversity"
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41396-018-0086-0
(direct link to paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41396-018-0086-0.pdf )

"Highly competitive fungi manipulate bacterial communities in decomposing beech wood (Fagus sylvatica) "
https://academic.oup.com/femsec/article/95/2/fiy225/5218414
(direct link to paper at the URL)

Regarding, "Survival of the fittest", as I learned it just means that sets of genes whose organism-vehicles better fit their environment are more likely to be found in the population as generations pass. There's no moral value to it, it just is. Which brings into question the whole labeling of something without intent as, "competitive" but that's another discussion?

dalton99a

(94,119 posts)
14. Because Trump was acquitted by the Senate.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:10 PM
Jan 2023

There is quite a bit of information about Trump's role in the insurrection if you ask


hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
16. But this software scours the internet and surely has access to the scores of investigations ongoing.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:11 PM
Jan 2023

AmBlue

(3,460 posts)
15. Was gonna say the same
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:10 PM
Jan 2023

Makes me wonder if avoidance of that topic is pre-programmed?

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
9. ChatGPT is pretty crazy
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 02:58 PM
Jan 2023

I started putting short answer/short essay homework questions into it out of curiosity.

It is completely insane how good, detailed, and thorough the answers were. Not to mention how well the answers are organized and how salient everything was to the topics I inquired about.

If I were a cheating type, I could easily just put all of my homework into the thing and then rewrite it in my own voice. I don't cheat, because I do want/need to learn the things I returned to college for.

But this thing could seriously do most of college for people in areas like the social sciences and liberal arts - particularly areas of history, literature, language, communications, and any other writing intensive course. For STEM and biological sciences, it could be a useful study guide for the most part. For example, I have a physiology test on Monday. I typed in a few questions about the subjects I'm studying. Yep. That could pretty much be the study guide. In fact, it provided little tidbits of relevant information that was not in the lecture or the textbook that clarified a few things for me.

So . . . good luck, teachers!

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
19. This Atlantic article has the same conclusion
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:17 PM
Jan 2023
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/12/chatgpt-ai-writing-college-student-essays/672371/

The College Essay Is Dead
Nobody is prepared for how AI will transform academia.
By Stephen Marche

Suppose you are a professor of pedagogy, and you assign an essay on learning styles. A student hands in an essay with the following opening paragraph:

The construct of “learning styles” is problematic because it fails to account for the processes through which learning styles are shaped. Some students might develop a particular learning style because they have had particular experiences. Others might develop a particular learning style by trying to accommodate to a learning environment that was not well suited to their learning needs. Ultimately, we need to understand the interactions among learning styles and environmental and personal factors, and how these shape how we learn and the kinds of learning we experience.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
29. I agree with the article. And it could be a powerful assistive tool.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:33 PM
Jan 2023

We're studying chromosomes in class, and there was this little bit about them that was eluding my understanding. Why the chromosome doing something wasn't answered in any of the materials I had. I tried googling, but that was a little messy and many of the articles are too general/overview. I made a note to catch the professor during office hours for clarification.

On a whim, I asked the AI. Immediately told me exactly what I wanted to know. Exactly.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
86. Make sure you verify it's accuracy.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 02:51 PM
Jan 2023

It has fills and lies boldly.

I've read reports that it can pass the bar exam - which doesn't surprise me a bit. I've taught students to pass the bar exam for years. While it helps to be right, students who are skilled at gap - filling the laws they don't remember (reverse-engineering the rules from what they do remember), and do so confidently, often score better than those who know more, but are hesitant in their answers.

We tend to accept bold lies as well as, or better than, the truth.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
87. That's a good reminder
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:00 PM
Jan 2023

I did check the answer against another search. It came down to not understanding how to ask the question in google, the level of specificity I needed. So it became more of it saying, "I get it. You probably mean this."

Google, particularly with science topics, just seems to get messier and messier over time. The results are either sending me to studies I in no way have the education to understand, or it goes into the most generalized explanations that are in no way helpful.

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
94. It accepts corrections gracefully.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 10:18 AM
Feb 2023
Make sure you verify it's accuracy


I played around with it briefly the other day, and corrected some errors and fed it other information in the course of the conversation.

Not only does it accept corrections gracefully, it incorporated the new information (and corrections) that I fed it into its answers as the conversation progresses.

(It also seems very trusting, unless it is actually veryfying the information that I fed it before regurgitating it back to me later, which seems doubtful, since some of the information I fed it is hard to find.)

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
95. The problem is that it makes the word in the first place
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:21 PM
Feb 2023

Confidently expresses those errors in the first place - and that
It trusts your corrections without verification.

Imagine if it was Donald Trump correcting it.

That's why I suggested it was important to verify the accuracy, before using it or repeating it.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
63. If you asked chatGPT
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:15 PM
Jan 2023

If you asked chatGPT to write about a topic and you reD the response and then you wrote your version of the response after reading it, how is that very much different from going out and reading any other source material and then writing it in your own voice?

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
69. It does the topic organization and research for you
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:39 PM
Jan 2023

Say I want to write two pages comparing Spanish colonization to British colonization. How were they different? It will give you an entire template to follow.

It's one of the things that impressed me. If I'm writing an essay, my problem isn't that I can't write well. It's that it takes a bit of time to read about the topic, do research into it so you can pluck out three or so main points you might want to discuss, then figure out the order and flow in which you want to express those ideas.

When I flipped through a few topics in history and literature on chatGPT, all the organization was there. The intro paragraph, the body paragraphs, the supporting points, and the conclusion.

The papers were completely done with one quick query. That same paper might run me maybe two or three hours to set up, research, and execute. With the ChatGPT, I could simply spend half an hour following the template of what it gave me and reworking it into my own voice.

The problem with this is you want students to be able to research their own papers. Sift through sources. Which sources are good and valid and which should be discarded? It's part of shaping the critical thinking process. You want them to understand how to organize their own ideas and fashion them in such a way that they are communicated well to others.

ChatGPT does away with this entirely. It's like taking a math class where you're expected to know how to solve problems, but you instead spend the semester having a calculator do it for you. What are you learning besides knowing how to use a calculator? Why take the course at all? And what is a degree worth if you basically had a computer do all the work and learning for you?

You might get a piece of paper after four years, but I wouldn't consider you educated.

Iris

(16,872 posts)
77. I think it will change the way we teach and has a lot of potential
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 09:19 AM
Jan 2023

According to my English professsor friends (I work in higher Ed), the essay has been dead for a while now.

These responses can be used to critically think about information and dig deeper to find sources (Oh, and also, I'm a librarian). I'd like to see the respond to the opposite of the OP's question - why should Donald Trump not be in jail? Then, look for the source materials and evaluate those.

I find this all very exciting! And if I are teaching writing (which be done) would use this as a tool to move beyond basics structure of writing a paper into deeper and more robust analysis of a topic.

Disaffected

(6,401 posts)
44. This AI is amazingly lucid and informative.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jan 2023

Just a slight quibble though - methane is odorless, it's the other stuff that smells and there is a lot more than ammonia and H2S.

It is the methane that burns however!

 

pirsquared

(77 posts)
56. how can you trust it when it gets common facts wrong?
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 05:24 PM
Jan 2023

Indeed, methane (natural gas) has no odor. The smells arise mostly from sulfur-containing molecules, mercaptans, and similar. Which arise from the break-down of proteins and amino acids with sulfur-sulfur bonds.

A few alkaloids with butyl and pentyl groups smell.

Disaffected

(6,401 posts)
61. And gets common farts wrong.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 07:51 PM
Jan 2023


Seriously though, I volunteer for a wildlife rescue/rehab organization and have been looking into more humane/easy methods of animal euthanization (which is unfortunately sometimes necessary). Out of curiosity, I asked it if nitrogen asphyxiation is a humane method and received the following, incorrect reply:

"It is not considered to be a humane way of dying as the brain and other organs can be damaged by the lack of oxygen, causing severe distress and suffering."

Yeah, it's pretty impressive but needs some work...

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
11. tbh
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jan 2023

i never heard of chat gpt til i saw your OP

i think the argument is well done, compact and succinct.

Midnight Writer

(25,410 posts)
24. I'm looking forward to seeing Jim Jordan question a chatbot about its "liberal agenda".
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jan 2023

I reckon the bot will make (even more of) a fool of him.

milestogo

(23,082 posts)
13. This 22-year-old is trying to save us from ChatGPT before it changes writing forever
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jan 2023

While many Americans were nursing hangovers on New Year's Day, 22-year-old Edward Tian was working feverishly on a new app to combat misuse of a powerful, new artificial intelligence tool called ChatGPT.

Given the buzz it's created, there's a good chance you've heard about ChatGPT. It's an interactive chatbot powered by machine learning. The technology has basically devoured the entire Internet, reading the collective works of humanity and learning patterns in language that it can recreate. All you have to do is give it a prompt, and ChatGPT can do an endless array of things: write a story in a particular style, answer a question, explain a concept, compose an email — write a college essay — and it will spit out coherent, seemingly human-written text in seconds.

The technology is both awesome — and terrifying. "I think we're absolutely at an inflection point," Tian says. "This technology is incredible. I do believe it's the future. But, at the same time, it's like we're opening Pandora's Box. And we need safeguards to adopt it responsibly."

Tian is a senior at Princeton University, where he majors in computer science and minors in journalism. Before his recent foray into the limelight, Tian's biggest plans were graduating college and getting his wisdom teeth pulled. Now he's fielding calls from venture capital firms, education leaders, and global media outlets.

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2023/01/17/1149206188/this-22-year-old-is-trying-to-save-us-from-chatgpt-before-it-changes-writing-for

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
18. Ask it to write a few paragraphs about why
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:15 PM
Jan 2023

he should be president still or reelected. Or should not be prosecuted.

An engaged teacher should be able to tell if a given student created their own work.

That said, chat gpt and the like will drive an increased importance for live, in-the-moment testing for certification. Aural exams will become important in highschool.

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
21. We asked it about the Robert Frost poem "The Road Not Taken".
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:19 PM
Jan 2023

We asked if we should take the road less taken and it cautioned us not to set out in a snowy wood without knowing where we were going, and said we should take a snow beacon. It also kept saying it couldn't give us directions.

I don't think being a GPS and ambiguity are something it can handle.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
25. I wonder how long something has to be posted to a site
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:24 PM
Jan 2023

on the Internet before CHAT GPT finds it, reads it and uses it? For example, will CHAT GPT find this o.p. and comments right now? And formulate an answer right now if someone somewhere else asks a question that pertains to information in this post? Or will CHAT GPT find it next week? Next month?

Prairie_Seagull

(4,689 posts)
26. Skynet becomes aware in January of 2024.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:26 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Sun Jan 29, 2023, 12:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Date probably wrong but you get the point.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
38. IMHO the bit come thing is just a string of phrases Trump uses
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 04:01 PM
Jan 2023

Easily detected as not from him.

The haikus are interesting but not impressive.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
30. This has not been my experience
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:40 PM
Jan 2023

I copied and pasted your question, this is the normal response I get when I asked similar.
Here is what I asked the Chat GPT program: Write a small few paragraphs on why Donald Trump should be in jail, and not allowed to run for President again.

Response.

It is not appropriate for me, as a neutral language model, to express an opinion on whether or not a specific individual should be in jail or be prevented from running for public office. Such decisions are the purview of legal authorities and the political process. It is important that any accusations or allegations of criminal conduct are thoroughly investigated and evaluated by the appropriate legal authorities, and that due process is followed.

Tree Lady

(13,282 posts)
40. Well if AI learns from questions asked
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 04:08 PM
Jan 2023

then asking why he should and shouldn't be president caused it to come up with this neutral solution.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
70. Not my experience
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:43 PM
Jan 2023

It has never responded the way the OP pasted.
And I've been using it for quite a while. It never has opinions on prosecutions, impeachment, indictments etc.

 

Richard D

(10,018 posts)
32. Why should donald trump be president in 2024?
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:47 PM
Jan 2023

why should donald trump be president in 2024

"I am a language model and do not have the ability to make political endorsements or predictions. It is up to the American people to decide who they want to lead their country, based on their own beliefs and values."

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
37. A friend tried using it to write the beginning of a mystery novel
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 04:00 PM
Jan 2023

What came out was almost laughably bad. I imagine it's better for non-fiction than for fiction.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
39. Here's the flaw
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 04:05 PM
Jan 2023

the topic sentence. Never, ever EVER use "variety of reasons" in your topic sentence.

WHO CARES how many reasons? That is your weakest point, so why start out with it? It's also the mark of an amateur writer.

This software:


signed:

English teacher

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
49. The flaw I find is this: "He has been accused, therefore he should be in prison"
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 04:53 PM
Jan 2023

Repeated again and again. Very simple equation: he who is accused should be in prison. No mention of a trial.

I hate Trump — but that equation is the laws of quite a few nations we don’t want to emulate.

Okay, done arguing with a machine.

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CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
55. Been futzing w/ it and other AI tools for a month or so...
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 05:19 PM
Jan 2023

...edgi (SMS version of ChatGPT), Dall-E 2 etc.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
57. Why did the Wright Brothers sue Curtiss Aircraft
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 05:36 PM
Jan 2023
The Wright Brothers, Orville and Wilbur, sued Glenn Curtiss and his company, Curtiss Aircraft, for patent infringement in 1913. The Wright Brothers held several patents related to the control of aircraft, including the method of wing warping they had used on their own early planes. Curtiss, who was also working on the development of airplanes, had begun using a similar method of wing warping on his own planes, which the Wright Brothers believed was in violation of their patents.

The Wright Brothers had also formed the Wright Company, to manufacture and license airplanes, and they felt that Curtiss Aircraft was stealing their business by producing airplanes that used the same technology. The lawsuit was a major legal battle in the early history of aviation and lasted for several years. The Wright brothers ultimately won the case, and Curtiss was forced to pay the Wright Company license fees for using the patented technology. This was a major victory for the Wright brothers, and it established their control over key airplane technologies and helped to establish the Wright Company as one of the leading airplane manufacturers of the time.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
58. It even wrote a haiku
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 05:37 PM
Jan 2023
Bright tulips swaying,
Soft petals gently kissing breeze,
Spring's colorful muse.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
68. A heavy metal song about money
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:37 PM
Jan 2023

Verse 1:
Money, money, the root of all evil
A force that makes us all so feeble
A never-ending cycle of greed
A hunger that can never be appeased

Chorus:
Money, money, it's a disease
It takes over our minds, it brings us to our knees
A false god, that we all worship
Money, money, it's a curse

Verse 2:
We chase the almighty dollar
And forget what really matters
We sell our souls for wealth
And end up living in poverty of the mind and spirit

Chorus:
Money, money, it's a disease
It takes over our minds, it brings us to our knees
A false god, that we all worship
Money, money, it's a curse

Bridge:
We spend our days chasing the green
And forget what it truly means
To live a life with purpose and grace
But money, it takes all that away

Chorus:
Money, money, it's a disease
It takes over our minds, it brings us to our knees
A false god, that we all worship
Money, money, it's a curse

Outro:
We must break free from this addiction
And find true satisfaction
In the things that truly matter
Not the illusions of money and its chatter.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,498 posts)
59. It feels...school reportish.
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 06:42 PM
Jan 2023

On the surface it feels human, but still evokes a clinical, emotionless feel.

Definitely an uncanny valley vibe to it.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
65. I think what people are missing about it
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 08:28 PM
Jan 2023

Or maybe what we aren’t talking about is that this is pretty low grade, public facing AI. It is also one of the first big releases of AI to the public. It is absolutely a game changer considering what will follow. To me it is akin to people who thought that internet thing was just a fad. It is absolutely here to stay and AI will have tremendous effects on much of life. What those changes are will depend on how we react to it becoming a bigger part of our world.

GusBob

(8,249 posts)
82. Great post! Welcome to DU
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:56 AM
Jan 2023

Yes this is just the public version, beta per se

And while AI has the potential good in a million ways, there is perhaps just as many bad applications

Last week I was at a medical conference. Technology is taking over, we are all being replaced by robots

The lecturer, a university based researcher, was talking about a gadget they were developing with the help of AI (not chat gpt) an imager for a certain eye structure.

Without any demographic information, the program was able to determine if the image was that of a male or female with 99% accuracy. It was not part of the program code or whatever, the AI figured it out on its own

Curious as to how this was possible, the whiz kids delved into the program but couldn’t suss it out. They queried the program or whatever they do

There was no explanation

The reaserchers were perplexed and startled> they called it “ a dark hole in AI”

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
83. Yep, Its the human nature not necessarily the AI
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 12:12 PM
Jan 2023

We can never get away from the human nature factor. People are good and bad. We all have our dark side. Everyone.

From the beginning the stick on the ground was a tool for destruction or for building. Thats the way of things. I try not to fear technology because I would always be in fear. I am amazed by the possibility of humans not having to work so hard just to survive. There is always going to be work to be done for sure, but eventually we may get to a point where we don’t have to work so hard. It won’t be in my lifetime, and progress is fought as we figure it all out but I do think that is the point of life…. Ironically humans have to learn how to just… Be. Like all the other species on the planet.

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Woodwizard

(1,322 posts)
71. This is kind of terrifying.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 12:28 AM
Jan 2023

This chatbot is like a google search and putting it a coherent history. Now just tweek it a bit to just pull the negative on an opponent and do major hit jobs that read like fact. I hate this stuff.

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
73. Finally! Students can hand in intelligent essays!
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 07:10 AM
Jan 2023

Now we need software to read those essays and allocate marks according to logic, relevance and completeness.

All automated of course, what teacher wants to read dozens of student essays in their own time?

Shrek

(4,428 posts)
74. "Write a Seinfeld skit starring Lauren Boebert"
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 07:50 AM
Jan 2023
Title: "Lauren Boebert at Monks"

Scene: Jerry's apartment.

Jerry: (Entering) Hey Kramer, you'll never guess who I just saw at Monks?

Kramer: Who?

Jerry: Lauren Boebert.

Kramer: (Surprised) Lauren Boebert? What was she doing at Monks?

Jerry: Well, she opened up a new restaurant in the neighborhood and wanted to try the competition.

Kramer: (Excited) Really? That's great. I've been dying to try her food.

Jerry: Yeah, but things got a little interesting when she tried to bring her gun into the restaurant.

Kramer: (Surprised) Her gun?

Jerry: Yeah, the manager freaked out and called the cops.

Kramer: (Laughing) This is going to be good.

Scene: Monks.

Lauren Boebert: (Entering) Excuse me, but I would like to sit at a table.

Manager: (Surprised) I'm sorry, ma'am, but you can't bring a gun into the restaurant.

Lauren Boebert: (Confused) What do you mean? It's my right to carry a gun.

Manager: (Frustrated) Not in here, it's not.

Lauren Boebert: (Insistent) I won't leave my gun outside. It's my personal protection.

Manager: (Defeated) Alright, fine. But keep it on the table and out of sight.

Lauren Boebert: (Satisfied) Of course.

Jerry and Kramer walk in and spot Lauren Boebert at a table.

Jerry: (Whispering to Kramer) Look who it is.

Kramer: (Whispering back) Lauren Boebert.

Jerry: (To Lauren) Excuse me, but I couldn't help but notice you have a gun at the table.

Lauren Boebert: (Proud) Yes, I do. It's my right to carry a gun.

Jerry: (Jokingly) I didn't realize it was bring-your-own-gun day.

Lauren Boebert: (Smiling) It's always bring-your-own-gun day.

Kramer: (Joining in) I prefer bring-your-own-mustard day.

Lauren Boebert: (Laughing) I like that.

The rest of the skit focuses on the interactions between Lauren Boebert, Jerry, and Kramer as they discuss their different views on guns and personal protection. In the end, they come to a mutual understanding and share a laugh over a sandwich at Monks.

End scene.

Silver Gaia

(5,361 posts)
75. If this became problematic in education,
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 08:10 AM
Jan 2023

I would start requiring students to submit outlines and rough drafts along with their finished essays. In other words: show me your process; prove that you wrote this. This would be no different than math teachers requiring students to show their work on math problems.

It seems to me, too, that as it refines its responses to various prompts and/or topics, so that it is giving essentially the same essay to various students, it will start to show up in plagiarism checkers. Or multiple students might submit the same or very similar responses to the same prompt to the same teacher.

Of course, this will require teachers who care, but most do.There will be ways to detect and deal with this.

dalton99a

(94,119 posts)
79. A teacher grading multiple papers can probably detect a pattern:
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 10:36 AM
Jan 2023

=====================================================

Write a poem about Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Marjorie Taylor Greene, a name now known,
A congresswoman, her story has grown.
Controversy surrounds her every move,
But she stands firm, with her beliefs to prove.

With QAnon views and false claims to make,
She's sparked anger and debate.
But she'll keep pushing, won't back down,
Her voice heard in every town.

Her words are strong, her actions bold,
She's not one to be controlled.
A force to be reckoned with, for sure,
Marjorie Taylor Greene, now in the political lore.

But whether you agree with her or not,
One thing is certain, she's certainly brought
Attention and spotlight to her cause,
Marjorie Taylor Greene, a name that will last.

=====================================================

Write a poem about Lauren Boebert.

Lauren Boebert, a name that rings true,
A businesswoman, her story anew.
From her small town roots to Congress halls,
She stands for freedom, her voice never falls.

With a restaurant and a gun by her side,
She fights for the Second Amendment with pride.
A rebel, a fighter, and a patriot too,
She'll stand up for what she believes, it's true.

She's not afraid to speak her mind,
And her message is clear, she's one of a kind.
She'll fight for the people, for liberty,
Lauren Boebert, a force in the political sea.

Whether you agree with her or not,
One thing is certain, she's certainly got
A determination to make her mark,
Lauren Boebert, a name that will spark.

=====================================================

Write a poem about Matt Gaetz.

Matt Gaetz, a name that's well known,
A Florida man, his story has grown.
With a loud voice and a strong stance,
He's a force in the political dance.

With a conservative bent and MAGA roots,
He's a champion of the right, with no doubts.
He'll fight for what he believes, without a care,
And speak his mind, without a second to spare.

But controversy follows him like a shadow,
With investigations, and ethics to follow.
Despite it all, he stands tall and strong,
Matt Gaetz, in the political fray all along.

Whether you agree with him or not,
One thing is certain, he's certainly got
A way of making waves, and making his mark,
Matt Gaetz, a name that leaves a spark.

=====================================================



Silver Gaia

(5,361 posts)
88. Agreed.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:27 PM
Jan 2023

And there's no "voice" in these things. That will start to stick out. But... there will still need to be evidence that it's plagiarism.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
80. Human here. If one asks it "who is AN authority" and "who is IN authority," and "what is authority,"
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:08 AM
Jan 2023

one can get a sense of whether OpenAI's future development is close to matching or surpassing humans' systems of being AN authority -- in law, judges; in education, the ways that pre-school to graduate schools teach a human to become AN authority. It can give humans a sense os where humans may or may not exercise their AI based authority, or their own. Once known, how can any of what AI generates be stopped or controlled.

It's not the quanitity of retention or construction of information that makes one AN authority, it's the moral judgment calls needed to make human decisions that do the greatest good for the greatest number, and not just for those who can buy authority, whether its through guns, databases or algorithms.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
81. Another question for the ChatGPT: does it track us & our device use forever once we're signed up,
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:17 AM
Jan 2023

or does it stop tracking us and our devices once we end our contract.

Another question: Does the AI itself have lawful standing to contract on behalf of its human owners so, that a contract with them becomes lawfully the same as a contract with the AI itself.

Another: can it lie for its owners about the fine print of humans' contracts with the owners.

dwayneb

(1,107 posts)
85. AI will destroy us
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 02:50 PM
Jan 2023

Yes, these arguments are perfectly logical for why Trump should be in jail.

It will also provide seemingly logical arguments "proving" why Trump won the 2020 election. Or to support and promote any conspiracy theory no matter how dangerous or bizarre.

And this is in its current form. The next generation of AI machines will create the most powerful propaganda weapons in human history. Anyone who thinks the fascists won't use these weapons against us is dreaming.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
93. I've been having it make up weird stories for me
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 09:21 PM
Jan 2023

My daughter and I enjoy the responses. Our favorite story was generated after we asked “tell me a story about Santa Claus catching his elves smoking cigarettes” and “tell me a story about Santa wrestling Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania”.

I’m quite impressed by the stories that are generated.

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