newsmax. wow. just wow, lord god king bufuu of all wows

[90-percent]

i catch snippets as i channel surf and it's a blown on fuel misinformation un-American talking head big club of treason weasels!

i heard one guy make that case that "nazi" is short for "national socialism", therefore any progressive liberal democratic socialist is comparable to Hitler, Goebbels, Goring (my favorite nazi) Himmler, and Josef Mengele, to name but a few.

Positively infuriating that we have so many morbidly wealthy TRAITORS donating millions of rubles to put such a network on the air.

With this sort of thing in main stream media, no wonder we all hate each other!

-90% Jimmy

[BComplex]

1. Not only that, but the shitheads actually believe they're being truthfully educated

about democratic socialism, and WHY IT IS that they should hate (fear) democrats.

[rsdsharp]

2. Oh, that's old. "The Nazis were socialists. Hey, it's right in the name."

I usually ask them to explain the impact of The Night of the Long Knives on the socialist wing of the Nazi party, or ask if the German Democratic Republic was a republic like the USA. “Hey, it’s right there in the name!”

[philly_bob]

3. Please answer

>> explain the impact of The Night of the Long Knives on the socialist wing of the Nazi party,

Interesting question....

[rsdsharp]

4. June 30 - July 2, 1934, Hitler purged rivals, including those within the Nazi party.

And by purged, I mean rounded up and murdered. Ernst Röhm, head of the SA (the brown shirts) was the leading target, but former Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher was also assassinated. While he was at it, Hitler killed leading members of the leftist-leaning Strasserist faction of the Nazi Party, including its figurehead Gregor Strasser. There had been a socialist element of National Socialism, but it ended with The Night of the Long Knives.

[philly_bob]

5. Didn't know there was a socialist element in National Socialism

Strasser is vaguely familiar name.

Thanks for serious reply.

[rsdsharp]

10. It wasn't large, but it did exist. Hitler appealed to, and needed, the disaffected

of various factions. As he became more powerful, and actually achieved the Chancellorship in January 1933, his need lessened, and his desire to consolidate his power grew, largely culminating in The Night of the Long Knives.

[philly_bob]

13. Proud Boys, Oath Keepers ....,

[rsdsharp]

17. Yup. Mussolini had his black shirts. Hitler had the brown shirts.

Trump has. . . Bully boys by any other name.

[philly_bob]

22. Bolsonaro used aggressive football fans for muscle...

I appreciate your knowledgeable conversation, rsdsharp.

[90-percent]

6. Ernst Rohm

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I think Hitler himself shot Ernst Röhm personally?

-90% Jimmy

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. If the Nazis were socialists, then Saddam Hussein's "Elite Republican Guard" were part of the GOP

[rsdsharp]

8. My point exactly.

[soldierant]

18. Works for me.

[GreenWave]

11. And Trump's hero bombarded the Republican Army in Spain and even

the USA volunteer Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

[Habibi]

9. I usually respond:

"So then, the People's Republic of China means . . . " And let the suspense build.

[rsdsharp]

20. PRC, DPRK, DDR, they all work.

[PatrickforB]

12. This is by design. We are in the end stages of the corporate long-game designed to take over

our republic for the sake of SHAREHOLDER PROFITS.

This began with the US Chamber of Commerce. All through the 1950s and 1960s, corporate executives and board members had grown increasingly concerned at the effect the Civil Rights, Anti-War and Women's movements could potentially have on their PROFITS, and when Ralph Nader published Unsafe at Any Speed and Detroit was subsequently FORCED to put seatbelts in their cars (gasp, it affected PROFITS!), they had had enough of liberal democracy.

They asked Lewis Powell, the Nixon Supreme Court pick, if he would draft a plan they could all follow to amass political power in our republic, and so protect their PROFITS.

Powell wrote a memorandum that laid out the entire corporate takeover plan, which became knows as the Powell Manifesto.

https://medium.com/volans/how-the-powell-memorandum-changed-capitalism-and-what-we-can-learn-from-it-today-d2ce10234f82

Then, when Reagan allowed the old Fairness Doctrine to die in 1987, it opened the way for a well-funded corporate takeover of the news media. Under the Fairness Doctrine (which was passed post WWII by Congress to prevent the US falling prey to a demagogue), each community had to have locally owned TV and radio stations that were obligated to broadcast one hour of news per day, half hour local, and half hour national. They were confined to the facts, because if they started getting into opinion, the law required them to give equal time to the opposing viewpoint.

With that gone, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the right-wing radio grifters built their AM empire and brainwashed a large segment of working people, who listened to talk radio all day during the workday. We also had the rise of Fox, and now Newsmax. (I like the term 'treason weasels!).

Why do they pound these wedges? They are on the gravy train with stratospheric PROFITS.

They have gotten Congress to give them tax cut after tax cut, and bribed Congress members (through campaign contributions, and now super-pacs) to enact legislation that protects PROFITS, and pound wedges between us because IF WE HATE EACH OTHER THEN WE WON'T NOTICE THEM PICKING OUR POCKETS.

Instead of a government of, by and for the people, thanks to Lewis Powell and others like him (Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Lee Atwater and many more), we now have a government of, by and for CORPORATE PROFITS, and billionaire parasites.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

14. Powell issued the 'call to arms', but the plan was James Buchanan's...

https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/meet-the-economist-behind-the-one-percents-stealth-takeover-of-america

[ ... ]
MacLean describes how the economist developed a grand project to train operatives to staff institutions funded by like-minded tycoons, most significantly Charles Koch, who became interested in his work in the ‘70s and sought the economist’s input in promoting “Austrian economics” in the U.S. and in advising the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank.

Koch, whose mission was to save capitalists like himself from democracy, found the ultimate theoretical tool in the work of the southern economist. The historian writes that Koch preferred Buchanan to Milton Friedman and his “Chicago boys” because, she says, quoting a libertarian insider, they wanted “to make government work more efficiently when the true libertarian should be tearing it out at the root.”

With Koch’s money and enthusiasm, Buchanan’s academic school evolved into something much bigger. By the 1990s, Koch realized that Buchanan’s ideas — transmitted through stealth and deliberate deception, as MacLean amply documents — could help take government down through incremental assaults that the media would hardly notice. The tycoon knew that the project was extremely radical, even a “revolution” in governance, but he talked like a conservative to make his plans sound more palatable.

MacLean details how partnered with Koch, Buchanan’s outpost at George Mason University was able to connect libertarian economists with right-wing political actors and supporters of corporations like Shell Oil, Exxon, Ford, IBM, Chase Manhattan Bank, and General Motors. Together they could push economic ideas to the public through media, promote new curricula for economics education, and court politicians in nearby Washington, D.C.
[ ... ]

[rsdsharp]

15. I agree with the thrust of your argument, but must pick a couple of bones.

The Fairness Doctrine never required equal time. That is a separate doctrine, still in place, that applies to political candidates. The Doctrine required airing of matters of community interest, and the airing of opposing views, but the opposition needn’t be afforded equal time. I have also never heard of a requirement of a half hour of local and a half hour national news. Licensees set out their news and public affairs commitments in their applications, but I’m unaware of a specific time or content requirement.

Reagan didn’t let the Doctrine die; he killed it. He appointed an FCC chair who was hostile to the Doctrine. Congress codified it, but Reagan vetoed the act. A three judge panel of the DC Circuit, held in a 2-1 decision, that the Doctrine was merely voluntary, rather than mandatory, effectively killing it. The two judges? Antonin Scalia and Robert Bork; both Reagan appointees.

[rubbersole]

16. The Telecommunications Act that Clinton signed into law..

..was the door opening for corporate domination of America's media. The camel's nose...
I thought President Hillary would reverse the trend.

[Evolve Dammit]

19. excellent post.

[90-percent]

21. Thanks to every single poster here

always informative, accurate and worthwhile historical perspectives. I like the privilege of hanging with peeps more articulate and well informed than I am. Good ole' DU comes through for me and all of us yet again. You folks are all appreciated bigly!

-90% Jimmy