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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,782 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:05 PM Jan 2023

DeSantis actions could pose risk with Black voters in 2024

Gov. DeSantis and his anti-African American history accurately being taught in schools rants could indeed put him at odds with the Nation's African American voters of all ages if he runs in 2024 for the GOP Nomination. His racist, pro-White supremacist agenda is being exposed for what it is. Also, his anti-LGBTQ positions, anti-Diverse books, Voter suppression tactics which target African-Americans and the poor, anti-Immigrant, anti-Abortion rights/access, etc., angering many of Americans across this country's social and political spectrum, are doing him no favors either.

Source:The Hill

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) runs the risk of alienating Black voters ahead of a potential 2024 presidential bid after a series of controversial moves by his administration, some observers say.

Though he hasn’t announced a decision for the 2024 presidential election just yet, DeSantis is seen as a strong GOP contender for the White House, next to former President Trump. But a spate of actions some have criticized as “anti-Black” could pose a threat for the governor’s chances at winning over Black voters, who became a deciding factor in securing President Biden’s election in 2020 and the Democrats’ Senate majority in the 2022 midterms.

“People from all across the country should be concerned that Gov. DeSantis, who potentially will soon run for president in the next few years, that he is pushing this type of agenda,” said Florida state Sen. Shevrin Jones (D). “This is the tone and the tenor that won’t just be for Florida but that will be spread nationally.”

More at....[link:https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3828839-desantis-actions-could-pose-risk-with-black-voters-in-2024/|
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DeSantis actions could pose risk with Black voters in 2024 (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2023 OP
DeSatan is dangerous as hell to a democracy! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2023 #1
I don't get it, he's such an unlikable prick, I guess he just appeals to other pricks Walleye Jan 2023 #2
He sure as hell is NOT appealing to the BIGGEST PRICK of all... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2023 #3
And white nationalist bullies, thugs and assholes! Hmmm, guess that's the GOP. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2023 #4
Liars and, thieves, and cheaters, the whole party Walleye Jan 2023 #6
Yep!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2023 #7
He doesn't care about the African American vote Buckeyeblue Jan 2023 #5
Agreed SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #8
Exactly this! Docreed2003 Jan 2023 #10
But that strategy didn't work for him. Baitball Blogger Jan 2023 #16
How didn't it work? madville Jan 2023 #19
His losses Baitball Blogger Jan 2023 #20
Desantis didn't lose any of those madville Jan 2023 #21
Ah. I am now wondering if I responded to the Baitball Blogger Jan 2023 #23
And if we runb against him in 2024 edhopper Jan 2023 #9
i think he's got the solution for that. barbtries Jan 2023 #11
Even Mussolini wouldn't be seen in white rubbers.... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2023 #12
i'm not so sure. barbtries Jan 2023 #13
Continued vote obstruction/suppression with more laws already crafted. Cheaters. DeFascist, appalachiablue Jan 2023 #24
but it will push his worth with the red neck base. republianmushroom Jan 2023 #14
Ya think? Baitball Blogger Jan 2023 #15
Corporate McPravda already is making deNazi "sound reasonable." Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #17
I'm sorry to say there seem to be enough black conservatives to swing things his way. Aristus Jan 2023 #18
"could indeed put him at odds" Takket Jan 2023 #22
Enter voter suppression. LisaM Jan 2023 #25
Black voters don't vote for Republicans. He's risking nothing. That's the problem. nt Hamlette Jan 2023 #26
Basically agree. He's ceding very few voters, while feeding his beast Hortensis Jan 2023 #27
I wouldn't necessarily say Hispanics are deeply conservative in culture. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #28
Sorry, by "heavily" I meant larger percentage rather than "deeply" conservative. Hortensis Jan 2023 #29

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
5. He doesn't care about the African American vote
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:15 PM
Jan 2023

He is trying to maximize the white vote if/when he runs. He is all about white nationalism.

madville

(7,408 posts)
19. How didn't it work?
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:51 PM
Jan 2023

He won Florida with almost 60% of the vote and by 20 points. If that’s “didn’t work” I’m not sure what is.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
20. His losses
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:44 PM
Jan 2023

He lost the senate, the house and the presidency. Each election after his first one, Republicans lost ground.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
23. Ah. I am now wondering if I responded to the
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 05:38 PM
Jan 2023

Wrong post. I am on the road and reading through quickly. I was responding to a post who was suggesting that Trump’s style of marginalizing people worked for him. It didn’t. It looks like De Santis is doubling down on Trump’s method and I want to believe he will be stopped at the national level, the way that Trump was stopped.

edhopper

(33,547 posts)
9. And if we runb against him in 2024
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:19 PM
Jan 2023

none of this "I don't know if my opponent is racist but...blah, blah.."
It should be "My opponents actions were clearly racist!"
Let him be on the "I am not a racist" defensive.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
11. i think he's got the solution for that.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:31 PM
Jan 2023

don't let them vote. with everything he's getting away with now i see this as a plausible scenario. We know it goes on all over the South with perhaps a bit more subtlety, but WTF.

this guy is not right in the head. he's mussolini.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
13. i'm not so sure.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:41 PM
Jan 2023

he was seen in some pretty ridiculous looking outfits. he thought they were cool.

desantis in go go boots lol

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
24. Continued vote obstruction/suppression with more laws already crafted. Cheaters. DeFascist,
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:14 PM
Jan 2023

'lil Benito seems to currently lead the pack, sorry to say.

Kid Berwyn

(14,852 posts)
17. Corporate McPravda already is making deNazi "sound reasonable."
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 02:34 PM
Jan 2023

“Risk of alienating” my ass. The guy’s Jim Crow incarnate.

Aristus

(66,308 posts)
18. I'm sorry to say there seem to be enough black conservatives to swing things his way.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 02:45 PM
Jan 2023

I don't know why any ethnic group would seek to emulate their oppressors. But black conservatism seems to be the coming thing.

Takket

(21,550 posts)
22. "could indeed put him at odds"
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 05:35 PM
Jan 2023

DUH

Is that some kind of a joke? The guy has been beating every racist dog whistle in the book for years now. Does the writer of this article really think black people are that stupid that they don't see him for what he is?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Basically agree. He's ceding very few voters, while feeding his beast
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 05:32 PM
Jan 2023

and trying to grow it with the conservative Hispanic vote.

Not only have most Hispanics NOT already aligned in one demographic monolith with the Democratic Party, as black Americans have, but they're also heavily conservative by culture, they strongly outnumber the black demographic, and a large proportion are WHITE. That the GOP didn't go after their vote a long time ago is proof of so much wrong with them, but the stakes are enormous now. Note also the historic bad blood between many of the Hispanic conservatives whose votes he's going for and black conservatives.

Elessar Zappa

(13,944 posts)
28. I wouldn't necessarily say Hispanics are deeply conservative in culture.
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 05:35 PM
Jan 2023

At least in my state of NM, they’re more pro-choice and pro-marriage equality than the white voters here.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Sorry, by "heavily" I meant larger percentage rather than "deeply" conservative.
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 05:45 PM
Jan 2023

I'd change it, Elessar, but then that wouldn't make sense with your post.

Happily, very solid majorities of Americans, which include many conservatives, are pro-choice and pro-marriage equality when asked in ways that don't trigger factional responses. Much fewer are among "deep" conservatives, of course.

Speaking of "going after" the Hispanic vote, I remember the GOP postmortems after the election of Obama and their supposedly facing up to the demographic transition as minorities grow in representation.

At that time, the general idea seemed to be that they shouldn't bother with black Americans but that "reaching OUT" to Hispanic citizens by being less overtly hostile toward Hispanic undocumented immigrants (as surrogates for them) would satisfy them. That was it; no need to try to bring Hispanic citizens into the party or to address issues they might have for themselves.

So in a way, even if done for the wrong reasons, attempts to actually woo them could turn into an advance for the white man's party. If it stuck. Even before this era, I wondered if too much success of this type might lead, temporarily, to race/ethnonationalist riots in the GOP's tent. But just maybe to an influential moderate-conservative Hispanic caucus instead.

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