Never again: How a 'lesson of 2011' shaped Biden's no-negotiation stance on debt limit

[Joinfortmill]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/debt-ceiling-deadline-biden-negotiate-2011-near-default-rcna67854


'The Obama-Biden White House agreed to negotiate with Republicans on the debt ceiling. It brought the U.S. economy to the brink of disaster — and the president and vice president vowed to change their posture.

Twelve years later, Biden is executing on that lesson as he faces down a new Republican-controlled House that is similarly demanding spending cuts as a concession for extending the debt ceiling. He says there won’t be any negotiations, and Congress must allow the government to pay its bills. “I will not let anyone use the full faith and credit of the United States as a bargaining chip,” Biden said Thursday in Virginia.'

[vanlassie]

1. This is the real life advantage experience brings to the game.

It’s why term limits are dumb.

[soldierant]

11. Amen to that.

[murielm99]

14. I am pretty sure that term limits

is a republican idea.

[OMGWTF]

16. Rethuglicans instituted the two four-year term limit for presidents after FDR won a 4th term.

[Cha]

2. TY Pres Biden!.. &

FO to all those who want to Ruin the USA.. Fucking Traitors.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Call your reps, demand "no negotiations with terrorists!"

Biden’s gonna need all the support he can get, and there are some in congress who will need…encouragement…to keep their spines stiff through what is sure to be a nail biter.

I’m looking at you, Josh Gottheimer.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

5. Literally the coup plotters are terrorists...and we should negotiate with them? Isn't that

an official federal policy, so no brainer!?

[Javaman]

4. At the end of the day, the repuke are and have always been

Cowards

They will talk shit, they might event let the vote lapse, but in the end they will crumble as soon as the bad press starts trashing them.

The Dems should never ever negotiate with domestic terrorists

[Alexander Of Assyria]

6. Bad press? Been waiting since the coup for that to begin!

[Javaman]

7. That's because the coup didn't have obvious at the start

Financial implications. This does

[markodochartaigh]

10. "Financial implications"

Good point. Right after the coup attempt we saw a lot of the corporations which (not who) run the US saying that they would not support politicians who supported the coup. That didn't last long because the bottom line was that the US public didn't demand with our dollars that companies not donate to insurrectionist politicians. But the economy is another matter. Hopefully the corporate oligarchs who want the economy to keep spinning will pull the strings of enough of their Republican marionettes to join with Democrats in raising the debt limit.

[DENVERPOPS]

12. Agreed Javaman

This "new", un-questionably, Fascist Group of so-called "Republicans" has to be stopped from their continued Extortion, BlackMailing,

and Corruption, to introduce their Un-American agenda in obliterating Democracy, and destroying the Constitution....

[certainot]

8. dems should quote from limbaugh, republicans chief economist, when he spent much of july 2011

urging them to push all the way to the deadline aug 2. that would blame the dead guy and that closest thing to a moral and ‘intellectual’ leader the republicans have had the last .

limbaugh should be waved under their nose so they and media know where these idiots got their econ 101 from

here are some quotes from july 2011 in which he repeatedly told his idiot dittohead teabag trumper audience that the US could not default, and if it did it would force obama to make cuts. there were a lot more to choose from.

"Social Security checks will continue to go out."
"we're being lied to by the Ruling Class left and right about the debt ceiling and what happens if it's not raised.”

"When you boil it all down, here's the point: big cutting. It will occur automatically."

“If there is a collapse or a default, it's something that he (Obama) wants and has planned.”
“And if -- if -- the Republicans go along at some point, they're contributing to the destruction of our economy.”

july 27 "There isn't gonna be any default and there probably won't be a downgrade. All of this is hocus-pocus.

july 29 "There isn't gonna be any default and there probably won't be a downgrade. All of this is hocus-pocus

[FakeNoose]

9. I believe Joe Biden is smarter, craftier, and balls-ier than all those Repukes put together

He's been through this BS before and he knows the drill.

[housecat]

15. I want to know where his low poll numbers are coming from

[Meadowoak]

17. Junk polls

[housecat]

18. Why is MSNBC repeatedly showing them?

[Hekate]

13. Love that man