I understand that some members of the deceased Republican party are beginning to whine about

[Atticus]

how they're being treated at restaurants, airports and other public places. They have complained that they are being "discriminated against" because of their "conservative views". The problem is not with their "conservatism"; it's with their FASCISM.

They have perverted conservatism so profoundly that the word now means something not at all like what it did a couple of decades ago. I have never agreed with much that true conservatives stood for and I have seriously disliked many of them. But, I never HATED them before these last several years.

Nowadays, "conservatism" is simply a label many have co-opted because it sounds much better than "fascist" or "racist" or "bigot" or "misogynist" or "homophobe" or some other more accurate descriptor of the cowardly thuggish scum they are.

Liz Cheney is a conservative. Adam Kinziger is a conservative.

If anyone is harassing them in public, they are likely wearing red caps.

[Ocelot II]

1. I agree. I've often disagreed with traditional conservatives

but it was usually possible to have a rational discussion about the role of government - guns vs. butter, how taxation should be implemented, whether and to what extent incremental change is better or worse than major system changes - all that stuff. But these days most of the people who call themselves conservatives are nothing of the kind; they are bigots, fascists, nihilists, Nazis, or all of those things. I see no reason why they shouldn't be shunned, just as you'd shun someone who turned up wearing an armband with a swastika.

[Mopar151]

43. Absolutely!

The "Main Street Republicans" were generally moderates, and there was plenty of common ground! Then Nixon rolled up a rouge's gallery of fascists, white supremacists, nihilists, creeps (Roger Ailes!), and Birchers.
They aint been right since! Gerry Ford was too wimpy, and Jimmy Carter was too kind..

[alfredo]

51. And Obama was too black

His mere presence drove them over the edge, sending them into a Teutonic rage.

[Mopar151]

53. Not a drop of "slave blood"!

Truly a "freeborn man" - which turned generations of KKK propaganda on it's head!
Remarkably similar to the George Linclon Rockwell reaction by being interviewed by Alex Haley - editor of The Playboy Interview at the time.

[alfredo]

55. That was what sets Obama apart, the pain of slavery wasn't passed on to him.

Slavery is a crime against future generations.

[Mopar151]

56. "I don't cower well!". The Man. nt

[alfredo]

58. I don't kneel for anybody, real or imagined.

My knees are shot, a part of growing old I found.

[FalloutShelter]

2. They'd better get used to it.

I think the people are about five minutes from throwing things at them.

Have none of them read a book about the French Revolution? I suggest CITIZEN.

[Wounded Bear]

3. Unfortunately, not deceased. They are diseased, though, at least mentally...

[doc03]

5. I just read on MSN a customer confronted Tucker in a fly fishing shop

out west and told him "You are the worst human being alive."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-at-montana-fly-fishing-shop-stops-tucker-carlson-and-says-he-s-the-worst-human-being/ar-AA16UosI?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f3e739aec01745b793bb5c6504a53e0a

[lastlib]

6. I remember a cartoon I used to have on my wall, dating to Raygun's first term--

two guys sitting at a bar drinking. One says, "I wasn't always a conservative--I used to be a Nazi."

Still appropos today. We haven't progressed as a nation in over 40 years.

[FakeNoose]

9. Nowadays it needs to be said in reverse order

"I used to be a conservative - now I'm a Nazi."

That's exactly how they've morphed, almost all of them. It stopped being "my Grandpa's Republican Party" in the early 80's. There's no more polite disagreement any more.

All they can do is scream in your face, and then start with the threats.

[quakerboy]

30. I dont think they have changed

The world has changed around them. It used to be that they were comfortable. They didnt have to scream in your face to make sure anyone not white and male would stay "in their place". So they could do and believe exactly what they do now, but seem normal. Now it takes effort and looks ugly in comparison to what we know it should/could be.

[dutch777]

7. A return to public shaming....about time! It's one thing to have a conservative view point...

...and quite another to tell lies and support irresponsible conspiracy theories that endanger people and democracy. The latter is ample reason for public shaming and I only hope it increases.

[Sky Jewels]

8. These mfers attempted a coup d'etat and made half the population into third-class citizens.

They deserve public harassment and much, much more.

[Hotler]

10. Conservatism, selfishness samething. Yes, they are now fascist. nt

[phoenix75]

11. You reap what you sow.

Just saying ....

[paleotn]

12. I may have disagreed with them, but never questioned their loyalty to the country or democracy...

I can't say that anymore. Now I question not only the loyalty but sanity of ANYONE claiming to be a Republican.

[quakerboy]

31. so.. the party that made behind the back deals with Iran to take the presidency

and who's ideology propelled us prop up dictators around the world for many decades was loyal to the country and democracy?

[paleotn]

35. Those same "deals with the devil" were done by Democratic administrations as well.

The realpolitik of the Cold War. From JFK and LBJ propping up brutal regimes such as those in South Vietnam, to Carter's dealings with Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi of Iran.

[quakerboy]

42. Point stands

I would argue that it was the "conservative" ideological streak running through US politics and self identity that led to even democrats making such deals with devils.

But I would be curious about which Democratic candidates you think made secret deals with foreign dictators to hold US hostages to gain domestic electoral advantage?

[niyad]

13. I first read the title as "diseased" party. But both work.

[NowISeetheLight]

14. Karma

For the decades of harassing and marginalizing anyone who isn’t a white, Christian heterosexual.

[Hamlette]

20. agree, we should say "you taught us well".

[E. Normus]

15. hmm.....seems to me

that they are very tolerant of discrimination. That is, until folks decide to discriminate against them. Not alot of deep thinking going on.

[niyad]

16. They are the very same people who publish addresses of women's health care

workers, protest at clinics, infiltrate school boards, and, oh yeah, COMMIT INSURRECTION!!!!

"If you can't take the heat. . . ."

[Scrivener7]

22. REALLY good point.

[DENVERPOPS]

17. These "New" republicans

are not the longtime Republicans of the past. Their true actions and beliefs are PURE Fascism.

And they still remain, one millimeter away from installing their Corporate Fascist Tyranny. Out to OBLITERATE our Democracy and Constitution...........



Just looked up a verse from the 60's song 2510????..............."In the year 2525 if God's gonna make it, he better make it by then"

Hell, it should be In the year of 2022, if God's gonna make it, he better make it by then..........

The song is on youtube if anyone wants to listen and remember.......

[WestMichRad]

32. "In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans

https://m.

[DENVERPOPS]

39. LOL

About four blocks from my home, one? of these guys bought a house, decades ago, just because it had the address 2525....seriously

[Caliman73]

54. The issue still stems from the very notion of "Conservatism".

Conservatism unchecked will, given enough time, develop into at best authoritarianism, and at worst fascism.

The idea that there is a "natural hierarchy" and that the best structure for society is a pyramid, is the underpinning of Conservatism. They took that from the monarchical and aristocratic government systems of the past and have NEVER relinquished it.

When you believe that some people are simply better than others and it is a result of God or Nature's God making it so, that justifies oppression of the "lowers".

The difference between Conservatives and Fascists is the degree of subjugation and the "Who" that needs to be subjugated.

[PufPuf23]

18. The pols that supported the insurrection are traitors not conservative.

Big ongoing error not treating guilty insurrectionists summarily and for what they specifically attempted to do (steal the USA) and mostly failed (so far).

What troubles me is that the GOP stole the 2000 POTUS election assisted by the USSC (and Roger Stone and others) and skated (and ran the USA into a ditch). Nothing happened to the guilty in 2000.

[Scrivener7]

19. Also because of their abject stupidity. I listened to one in a deli the other day,

holding forth to his two adoring, agreeing acolytes.

Man, that guy was dumber than a box of rocks. I am surprised he remembers to breathe.

[niyad]

34. I keep saying that it is a pity that breathing is an autonomic function.

[Scrivener7]

38. Lol!

[Mopar151]

57. One of his buddies has to poke him now and then!

Restarts his breathing, restarts the tape loop of full of shit conspiracies 20 years past due.

[Marcuse]

21. Nt

[LiberalFighter]

23. If they are being discriminated in a restaurant it is likely because they are too vocal in public.

[OMGWTF]

24. Take a look at the 1956 Republican platform to see how fked-up they've become.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

25. I've witnessed an inlaw groom his son into being a racist.

First it was little anecdotal incidents, like someone's missing jewelry assumed taken by a black cleaning lady. Then it proceeds from there. Now my nephew who is graduating from college in San Diego is a big fan of Florida, supposedly because of their "no masks" requirements. It's insanity to me. But there is no winning when making fun of life saving behavior becomes sport. That's what their team thrives on. And that is our neo civil war.

[republianmushroom]

26. Nailed it

[Yavin4]

27. After the rich got their tax cuts and Soviet Communism fell...

the conservative movement lost their raison d'etre. They didn't have anything to offer a nation that was becoming more and more diverse. To retain and expand their power, they made political alliances with the fringe elements of the political spectrum to the point where Mike the Pillow Guy had a realistic chance of being the RNC chair. That's how far they've gone.

[randr]

28. We know they don't love America

And we hope they are leaving soon.

[housecat]

29. So where do they go from here?

[vlyons]

33. It's not like you can have a rational conversation with them

nt

[Skittles]

36. CORRECT

we had to "tolerate" conservatism, but FASCISM? aw HELL FUCKING NO

[usonian]

37. Could it be their rude behavior?

Or their bad meth .... I mean breath.

[FlyingPiggy]

40. Well said. That distinction between conservatism and fascism needs to be screamed from rooftops.

[JHB]

41. Except that conservatives have always encouraged those "other types" to identify as conservative

It wasn't outsiders co-opting the term, it was conservatives themselves saying "you are us", then trying to disown the hellbeast they created.

So no, they're not off the hook.

[czarjak]

44. Resistance to change defines them. They'll die first before admitting their wrong.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

45. The same guys who showed a "Liberal Hunting License" are now

complaining about being discriminated against for being conservative?

Awww, the poor snowflakes...

[markodochartaigh]

46. The Republican party is deceased,

or at least on life support. The Republicans strangled it, and democracy, when they chose an authoritarian for their candidate. And the corporate Republicans knew this. They were going to have a brokered convention to pick another candidate, but they realized that they couldn't win without Trump because he was so wildly popular with their authoritarian base which is 80% of their party. So the corporate 20% put party before country and picked Trump. Amazingly, some of the corporate Republican leaders, such as the Bushes and Romney, refused to support Trump even when he was their candidate. For a democracy to be viable there have to be at least two viable parties committed to democracy. With the Republican party controlled by the authoritarian 80% the US has only one party committed to democracy.

[CaptainTruth]

47. Perfectly stated Atticus.

As you said, they're not conservatives, they're fascists.

I will add that they're also extremists.

[raging moderate]

48. They are not Conservatives. They are Reactionaries.

They are like the old Know-Nothings, a bunch of Reactionaries from the 19th Century. They react to the modern world with hatred and resentment.

[Zilli]

49. At this moment in time I feel more "conservative" than the Qpublicans.

I believe in "conserving" our institutions of justice, the rule of law, education, healthcare, the right to vote the right for women to own their own bodies and the right to actual truth. I believe in the conservation of our Constitution and our Democracy.

This is the view of a tree hugging progressive liberal...HA a libturd.............

[Beartracks]

50. It's always projection with the GOP.

For years they've claimed that "liberal" is a euphemism for "socialist" -- so naturally it turns out that the GOP is using "conservative" as a palatable alternative for "fascist." Not surprised.

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[wryter2000]

52. You forgot "liars."

Republicans have always gaslit us by saying they were trying to save Social Security not kill it and rich people were "job creators" and other nonsense. But as far as I can tell, they seldom looked at a camera and said things that were provably untrue until recently.

[Tickle]

59. They wear it as a badge of honor

I shit you not. I stupidly got into an argument with one stemming from a question and I called him a "MAGAt" I got a laugh and was told to call him an Ultra MAGAt. I'm so serious I think I left my mouth open when he said that to me.

I totally give up on everything and anything concerning them. I don't care if I am related to a family in Florida who votes like a jackass!