Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:31 AM
Ichingcarpenter (36,988 posts)
Quote of the Day: America's Billionaires are Pissed Off at Karl Rove
"The billionaire donors I hear are livid," one Republican operative told The Huffington Post. "There is some holy hell to pay. Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do ... I don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing."....Rove was forced to defend his group's expenditures live on Fox News on Tuesday night, and will hold a briefing with top donors on Thursday, according to Politico.
If conservative billionaires are looking for something else to be mad about, I'd recommend the Romney campaign's apparent habit of paying about 50 percent more for TV spots than the Obama campaign. That helped line the pockets of the consultants who both recommended the buys and got the commissions for placing the spots, but it didn't do much to win the election. In the end, it turned out that one side ran its campaign like a business, while the other side ran its like a local PTA. Ironically, it was the ex-community organizer who did the former and the ex-CEO of Bain Capital who did the latter. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/11/quote-day-americas-billionaires-are-pissed-karl-rove
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Ichingcarpenter | Nov 2012 | OP |
malaise | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
liberalgunwilltravel | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
yortsed snacilbuper | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
aquart | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
leftynyc | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
aquart | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
Tutonic | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
imanamerican63 | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
jpak | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
fasttense | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
Katashi_itto | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
KharmaTrain | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
Meaniepants | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
bulloney | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
oldbanjo | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
Brickbat | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
quaker bill | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
Firebirds01 | Nov 2012 | #35 | |
angrychair | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
shawn703 | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
Skidmore | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
whistler162 | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
Coyotl | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
RC | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
quaker bill | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
SDjack | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
canoeist52 | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
riverwalker | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
randr | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
groovedaddy | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
Lex | Nov 2012 | #31 | |
Lex | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
Scurrilous | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
yardwork | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
hifiguy | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
Mc Mike | Nov 2012 | #36 | |
PD Turk | Nov 2012 | #37 | |
DCKit | Nov 2012 | #38 |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:34 AM
malaise (244,475 posts)
1. True but as DUers have pointed out
lots of men ripped off the billionaires and that's just effin' delicious.
I hope they figure out who got really rich here. ![]() |
Response to malaise (Reply #1)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:36 AM
liberalgunwilltravel (181 posts)
24. Directions
Actually, I think Crossroads needs a new GPS!
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:35 AM
yortsed snacilbuper (7,823 posts)
2. A fool and his money are soon parted!
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:57 AM
aquart (69,014 posts)
3. Dear Parasitic Wealth-Guzzling Billionaires:
I guess sometimes money just says, "Kick me, I'm an idiot."
Sincerely, Concerned Citizen |
Response to aquart (Reply #3)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:13 AM
leftynyc (26,060 posts)
28. Or, perhaps even better
Sincerely,
Citizens United |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:07 AM
Tutonic (2,522 posts)
4. The old Turdblossom has lost its smell
and now its just a big ugly turd.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:20 AM
imanamerican63 (11,350 posts)
5. Remember!
This is how Rove got to be so rich!!!!!!!! He and those other Bush neo cons made money by lying to people, just like Madoff did!
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:23 AM
jpak (41,160 posts)
6. A perfect model for GOP privatization of government services
Scam
Scam Scam yup |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:37 AM
fasttense (17,301 posts)
7. Yeah the super rich CEO of Bain Capital with almost a half billion dollar war chest
got beat by the community organizer. Go figure.
Rove's got some explaining to do. |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:53 AM
Katashi_itto (10,175 posts)
8. Karl I have a piece of advice, think about "Witness Protection Program"
The Chinese won't appreciate this loss at all...
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:58 AM
KharmaTrain (31,706 posts)
9. And He Was Gonna Be "Fiscally Responsible"???
That's the biggest rushpublican lie that needs to get punctured. Rover looks like he took his billionaire buddies to the cleaners and it'll be interesting to see the long term residuals of this. Sadly I suspect the big money will be back in 2014 but nowhere near the volume we just saw. Will Rover be the one with his hands on the biggest bundle? Stay tuned.
The wild spending of the SuperPacs and Team Willard really contrast to the "fiscal conservative" mantra they tried to peddle they know how to make and save money. Sure doesn't look like it here. If anything, Willard was operating a welfare program for unemployed ex-dubya exiles. Be assured if he had gotten near the treasury the doors would have been flung open and the defecits would soar (and be hidden as usual). These goons made their money off the backs of others...that's what vulture capitalism is and we just escaped having our government become a victim... |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:59 AM
Meaniepants (19 posts)
10. recycled
With all of the monopolies in the corporate sector most of the money was pulled from the left pocket and stuffed back into the right pocket.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:21 AM
bulloney (4,113 posts)
11. Karma's a real bitch, right KKKarl?
I would like nothing more than to see that sick hate-mongering piece of shit get chewed and spit out by the 1%ers who thought they invested in a sure thing by buying the elections through KKKarl.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:22 AM
oldbanjo (690 posts)
12. Remember the more they spent the better
Obama looked, there were a lot of people working due to this election.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:38 AM
Brickbat (19,339 posts)
13. Why were they pissed? Did they think they could...BUY AN ELECTION?
Response to Brickbat (Reply #13)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:44 AM
quaker bill (8,156 posts)
16. I would guess they were sold that line
Response to Brickbat (Reply #13)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:23 PM
Firebirds01 (576 posts)
35. Think about your problems
All the issues you have in life. How many of those problems could be solved, or at least made much more tolerable, if you had unlimited amounts of money?
Now think about these billionaires who signed checks to Rove. They dont have the problems you and I have. They likely have never known any hardship that cant be resolved with cash. They have been able to buy anything and get what they want because they have the resources. So to answer your question, yes they thought they could buy an election. You and I know that boots on the ground and hard work is how you win an election. All they have ever done is collect money and invest it. They thought those principles would work here because thats the only perspective they have. |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:39 AM
angrychair (7,396 posts)
14. Got to keep perspective
In the end the money is not the point. Losing a $100 million to them is like me losing a $20 bill. I am not happy about it and will kick myself for being so stupid but its not going to bankrupt me. The money isn't the big deal. They have TONS of money (really, an actual ton of money
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:43 AM
shawn703 (2,697 posts)
15. They kept Kyl's seat in Republican hands
That's probably the only positive. Oh and they saved Michelle Bachmann, Steve King, Eric Cantor, etc. who can make sure their agenda stays alive in the House.
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Response to shawn703 (Reply #15)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:51 AM
Skidmore (37,364 posts)
18. I think some of those seats were "saved" because the districts they come from
are so gerrymandered that they are difficult to move and some regions just have large numbers of like minded people who support this type of politician. The NW portion of Iowa is pretty darned conservative and I was pleasantly surprised that Vilsack did as well as she did.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:46 AM
whistler162 (10,865 posts)
17. Channeling Marlon Brando, Godfather voice,......
Karl my friend you lost our money. How are you going to repay the money not to mention the vig?
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM
Coyotl (15,262 posts)
19. Rove alone spent $25 per vote in North Dakota, and Berg lost by under 3,000 votes
One reason Berg lost is because Rove spent $25 per vote in North Dakota.
You can't buy North Dakotans, but you sure can piss them off if you think you can! |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #19)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:38 AM
RC (25,592 posts)
25. North Dakotans think they are independent thinkers.
And they can be. They don't like outsiders coming in and telling them what to do. Not at all. That hurt Berg.
North Dakota is a rural, Red state. But, ND is the only state to have a State run Mill & Elevator. Plus they are the only state to have a State run bank. It is political suicide to mess with either one. And yet you talk to them and Socialism is bad. Obamacare is Socialism and they don't want it. |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM
quaker bill (8,156 posts)
20. One way to read it
Is that they spent +/- a billion dollars to move +/- 400,000 votes in Indiana and NC. However that is a generous read to Rove's benefit, as most polling indicates that nearly all of those votes had moved before they spent the money. A slightly better read would be that they moved 6 million votes nationally, however it would have taken closer to 10 million to do the job.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:04 AM
SDjack (1,448 posts)
21. Over-paying for TV ads ran a lot of money into companies owned
by Bain, and that ran profits Rmoney. Have seen anything recently about Rmoney. He's probably with his love -- his money in the Caribbean.
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Response to SDjack (Reply #21)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:17 AM
canoeist52 (2,282 posts)
23. Thank You. Everyone talks about the record amount of money spent. But...
not many are asking where it ended up. The money didn't trickle down as a stimulus for the economy, it passed from the 1% to the 1%.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:05 AM
riverwalker (8,693 posts)
22. oh snap
they not only got nothing, they paid twice as much to get it! These are the people who are going to "fix the deficit"?!
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:48 AM
randr (11,608 posts)
26. Sooner or later even a turd blossom looses its appeal
to turd blossom lovers!
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:57 AM
groovedaddy (6,220 posts)
27. Many, many elections have been won by money. Why should they think
this one would be any different? I'd like to think Rove is a con man but, then, it appears he may just be another arrogant asshole.
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Response to groovedaddy (Reply #27)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:47 PM
Lex (34,106 posts)
31. Seems like
maybe they were stupid with their money instead of strategic.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:46 PM
Lex (34,106 posts)
30. Doesn't seem like the Republicans are very good businessmen after all, does it?
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:06 PM
Scurrilous (38,676 posts)
32. K & R
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:10 PM
yardwork (54,284 posts)
33. Bain is a fraud and a scam. Romney is not a successful business man. He's a thief.
Trump is a thief. These so-called business men are actually con artists who figured out how to use government policies (that their cronies in Washington wrote into law in the first place) to steal billions of dollars from the American people. Too greedy to stop when they're ahead, they tried to take the last crumbs - like the Grinch who stole Christmas. Fortunately enough people woke up to their scam this time.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:18 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
34. If I were KKKarl (shudder), I'd be thinking about
a vacation in, say, Thailand, or somewhere even further away, for about ten years or so.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM
Mc Mike (9,023 posts)
36. I'm concerned.
I hope he doesn't get the Agency's patented Lee Atwater retirement package.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM
PD Turk (1,289 posts)
37. I hope this all goes viral
I hope the billionaires keep whining and stomping their feet, maybe it will shine a spotlight on the fact that they thought they could buy an election, and were entitled to do so
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:27 PM
DCKit (18,541 posts)
38. How long until they figure out that Mitt Romney put most of that money...
into his own pocket?
It's going to be a hoot. I don't want credit for that revelation. |