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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:31 AM Nov 2012

Quote of the Day: America's Billionaires are Pissed Off at Karl Rove

"The billionaire donors I hear are livid," one Republican operative told The Huffington Post. "There is some holy hell to pay. Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do ... I don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing."....Rove was forced to defend his group's expenditures live on Fox News on Tuesday night, and will hold a briefing with top donors on Thursday, according to Politico.

If conservative billionaires are looking for something else to be mad about, I'd recommend the Romney campaign's apparent habit of paying about 50 percent more for TV spots than the Obama campaign. That helped line the pockets of the consultants who both recommended the buys and got the commissions for placing the spots, but it didn't do much to win the election.

In the end, it turned out that one side ran its campaign like a business, while the other side ran its like a local PTA. Ironically, it was the ex-community organizer who did the former and the ex-CEO of Bain Capital who did the latter.


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/11/quote-day-americas-billionaires-are-pissed-karl-rove

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Quote of the Day: America's Billionaires are Pissed Off at Karl Rove (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Nov 2012 OP
True but as DUers have pointed out malaise Nov 2012 #1
Directions liberalgunwilltravel Nov 2012 #24
A fool and his money are soon parted! yortsed snacilbuper Nov 2012 #2
Dear Parasitic Wealth-Guzzling Billionaires: aquart Nov 2012 #3
Or, perhaps even better leftynyc Nov 2012 #28
Yes! aquart Nov 2012 #29
The old Turdblossom has lost its smell Tutonic Nov 2012 #4
Remember! imanamerican63 Nov 2012 #5
A perfect model for GOP privatization of government services jpak Nov 2012 #6
Yeah the super rich CEO of Bain Capital with almost a half billion dollar war chest fasttense Nov 2012 #7
Karl I have a piece of advice, think about "Witness Protection Program" Katashi_itto Nov 2012 #8
And He Was Gonna Be "Fiscally Responsible"??? KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #9
recycled Meaniepants Nov 2012 #10
Karma's a real bitch, right KKKarl? bulloney Nov 2012 #11
Remember the more they spent the better oldbanjo Nov 2012 #12
Why were they pissed? Did they think they could...BUY AN ELECTION? Brickbat Nov 2012 #13
I would guess they were sold that line quaker bill Nov 2012 #16
Think about your problems Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #35
Got to keep perspective angrychair Nov 2012 #14
They kept Kyl's seat in Republican hands shawn703 Nov 2012 #15
I think some of those seats were "saved" because the districts they come from Skidmore Nov 2012 #18
Channeling Marlon Brando, Godfather voice,...... whistler162 Nov 2012 #17
Rove alone spent $25 per vote in North Dakota, and Berg lost by under 3,000 votes Coyotl Nov 2012 #19
North Dakotans think they are independent thinkers. RC Nov 2012 #25
One way to read it quaker bill Nov 2012 #20
Over-paying for TV ads ran a lot of money into companies owned SDjack Nov 2012 #21
Thank You. Everyone talks about the record amount of money spent. But... canoeist52 Nov 2012 #23
oh snap riverwalker Nov 2012 #22
Sooner or later even a turd blossom looses its appeal randr Nov 2012 #26
Many, many elections have been won by money. Why should they think groovedaddy Nov 2012 #27
Seems like Lex Nov 2012 #31
Doesn't seem like the Republicans are very good businessmen after all, does it? Lex Nov 2012 #30
K & R Scurrilous Nov 2012 #32
Bain is a fraud and a scam. Romney is not a successful business man. He's a thief. yardwork Nov 2012 #33
If I were KKKarl (shudder), I'd be thinking about hifiguy Nov 2012 #34
I'm concerned. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #36
I hope this all goes viral PD Turk Nov 2012 #37
How long until they figure out that Mitt Romney put most of that money... DCKit Nov 2012 #38

malaise

(267,824 posts)
1. True but as DUers have pointed out
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:34 AM
Nov 2012

lots of men ripped off the billionaires and that's just effin' delicious.
I hope they figure out who got really rich here.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
3. Dear Parasitic Wealth-Guzzling Billionaires:
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:57 AM
Nov 2012

I guess sometimes money just says, "Kick me, I'm an idiot."

Sincerely,

Concerned Citizen

imanamerican63

(13,669 posts)
5. Remember!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:20 AM
Nov 2012

This is how Rove got to be so rich!!!!!!!! He and those other Bush neo cons made money by lying to people, just like Madoff did! But I don't think I would like those 1%'ers like the outcome??????

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
7. Yeah the super rich CEO of Bain Capital with almost a half billion dollar war chest
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:37 AM
Nov 2012

got beat by the community organizer. Go figure.

Rove's got some explaining to do.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
8. Karl I have a piece of advice, think about "Witness Protection Program"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:53 AM
Nov 2012

The Chinese won't appreciate this loss at all...

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
9. And He Was Gonna Be "Fiscally Responsible"???
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:58 AM
Nov 2012

That's the biggest rushpublican lie that needs to get punctured. Rover looks like he took his billionaire buddies to the cleaners and it'll be interesting to see the long term residuals of this. Sadly I suspect the big money will be back in 2014 but nowhere near the volume we just saw. Will Rover be the one with his hands on the biggest bundle? Stay tuned.

The wild spending of the SuperPacs and Team Willard really contrast to the "fiscal conservative" mantra they tried to peddle they know how to make and save money. Sure doesn't look like it here. If anything, Willard was operating a welfare program for unemployed ex-dubya exiles. Be assured if he had gotten near the treasury the doors would have been flung open and the defecits would soar (and be hidden as usual). These goons made their money off the backs of others...that's what vulture capitalism is and we just escaped having our government become a victim...

Meaniepants

(19 posts)
10. recycled
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:59 AM
Nov 2012

With all of the monopolies in the corporate sector most of the money was pulled from the left pocket and stuffed back into the right pocket.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
11. Karma's a real bitch, right KKKarl?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:21 AM
Nov 2012

I would like nothing more than to see that sick hate-mongering piece of shit get chewed and spit out by the 1%ers who thought they invested in a sure thing by buying the elections through KKKarl.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
12. Remember the more they spent the better
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:22 AM
Nov 2012

Obama looked, there were a lot of people working due to this election.

 

Firebirds01

(576 posts)
35. Think about your problems
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:23 PM
Nov 2012

All the issues you have in life. How many of those problems could be solved, or at least made much more tolerable, if you had unlimited amounts of money?

Now think about these billionaires who signed checks to Rove. They dont have the problems you and I have. They likely have never known any hardship that cant be resolved with cash. They have been able to buy anything and get what they want because they have the resources.

So to answer your question, yes they thought they could buy an election. You and I know that boots on the ground and hard work is how you win an election. All they have ever done is collect money and invest it. They thought those principles would work here because thats the only perspective they have.

angrychair

(8,594 posts)
14. Got to keep perspective
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:39 AM
Nov 2012

In the end the money is not the point. Losing a $100 million to them is like me losing a $20 bill. I am not happy about it and will kick myself for being so stupid but its not going to bankrupt me. The money isn't the big deal. They have TONS of money (really, an actual ton of money ) It's being embarrassed and ridiculed for backing the loser. People don't like to lose. Very, very rich people that are used to getting their way don't like to lose a lot. It not the money. It's the losing.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
15. They kept Kyl's seat in Republican hands
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:43 AM
Nov 2012

That's probably the only positive. Oh and they saved Michelle Bachmann, Steve King, Eric Cantor, etc. who can make sure their agenda stays alive in the House.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
18. I think some of those seats were "saved" because the districts they come from
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:51 AM
Nov 2012

are so gerrymandered that they are difficult to move and some regions just have large numbers of like minded people who support this type of politician. The NW portion of Iowa is pretty darned conservative and I was pleasantly surprised that Vilsack did as well as she did.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
17. Channeling Marlon Brando, Godfather voice,......
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:46 AM
Nov 2012

Karl my friend you lost our money. How are you going to repay the money not to mention the vig?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
19. Rove alone spent $25 per vote in North Dakota, and Berg lost by under 3,000 votes
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM
Nov 2012

One reason Berg lost is because Rove spent $25 per vote in North Dakota.
You can't buy North Dakotans, but you sure can piss them off if you think you can!

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
25. North Dakotans think they are independent thinkers.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:38 AM
Nov 2012

And they can be. They don't like outsiders coming in and telling them what to do. Not at all. That hurt Berg.
North Dakota is a rural, Red state. But, ND is the only state to have a State run Mill & Elevator. Plus they are the only state to have a State run bank. It is political suicide to mess with either one. And yet you talk to them and Socialism is bad. Obamacare is Socialism and they don't want it.

quaker bill

(8,223 posts)
20. One way to read it
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM
Nov 2012

Is that they spent +/- a billion dollars to move +/- 400,000 votes in Indiana and NC. However that is a generous read to Rove's benefit, as most polling indicates that nearly all of those votes had moved before they spent the money. A slightly better read would be that they moved 6 million votes nationally, however it would have taken closer to 10 million to do the job.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
21. Over-paying for TV ads ran a lot of money into companies owned
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:04 AM
Nov 2012

by Bain, and that ran profits Rmoney. Have seen anything recently about Rmoney. He's probably with his love -- his money in the Caribbean.

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
23. Thank You. Everyone talks about the record amount of money spent. But...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:17 AM
Nov 2012

not many are asking where it ended up. The money didn't trickle down as a stimulus for the economy, it passed from the 1% to the 1%.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
22. oh snap
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:05 AM
Nov 2012

they not only got nothing, they paid twice as much to get it! These are the people who are going to "fix the deficit"?!

groovedaddy

(6,229 posts)
27. Many, many elections have been won by money. Why should they think
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:57 AM
Nov 2012

this one would be any different? I'd like to think Rove is a con man but, then, it appears he may just be another arrogant asshole.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
33. Bain is a fraud and a scam. Romney is not a successful business man. He's a thief.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:10 PM
Nov 2012

Trump is a thief. These so-called business men are actually con artists who figured out how to use government policies (that their cronies in Washington wrote into law in the first place) to steal billions of dollars from the American people. Too greedy to stop when they're ahead, they tried to take the last crumbs - like the Grinch who stole Christmas. Fortunately enough people woke up to their scam this time.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
34. If I were KKKarl (shudder), I'd be thinking about
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:18 PM
Nov 2012

a vacation in, say, Thailand, or somewhere even further away, for about ten years or so.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
37. I hope this all goes viral
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM
Nov 2012

I hope the billionaires keep whining and stomping their feet, maybe it will shine a spotlight on the fact that they thought they could buy an election, and were entitled to do so

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
38. How long until they figure out that Mitt Romney put most of that money...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nov 2012

into his own pocket?

It's going to be a hoot. I don't want credit for that revelation.

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