HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Quote of the Day: America...

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:31 AM

Quote of the Day: America's Billionaires are Pissed Off at Karl Rove

"The billionaire donors I hear are livid," one Republican operative told The Huffington Post. "There is some holy hell to pay. Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do ... I don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing."....Rove was forced to defend his group's expenditures live on Fox News on Tuesday night, and will hold a briefing with top donors on Thursday, according to Politico.

If conservative billionaires are looking for something else to be mad about, I'd recommend the Romney campaign's apparent habit of paying about 50 percent more for TV spots than the Obama campaign. That helped line the pockets of the consultants who both recommended the buys and got the commissions for placing the spots, but it didn't do much to win the election.

In the end, it turned out that one side ran its campaign like a business, while the other side ran its like a local PTA. Ironically, it was the ex-community organizer who did the former and the ex-CEO of Bain Capital who did the latter.


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/11/quote-day-americas-billionaires-are-pissed-karl-rove

38 replies, 5528 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 38 replies Author Time Post
Reply Quote of the Day: America's Billionaires are Pissed Off at Karl Rove (Original post)
Ichingcarpenter Nov 2012 OP
malaise Nov 2012 #1
liberalgunwilltravel Nov 2012 #24
yortsed snacilbuper Nov 2012 #2
aquart Nov 2012 #3
leftynyc Nov 2012 #28
aquart Nov 2012 #29
Tutonic Nov 2012 #4
imanamerican63 Nov 2012 #5
jpak Nov 2012 #6
fasttense Nov 2012 #7
Katashi_itto Nov 2012 #8
KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #9
Meaniepants Nov 2012 #10
bulloney Nov 2012 #11
oldbanjo Nov 2012 #12
Brickbat Nov 2012 #13
quaker bill Nov 2012 #16
Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #35
angrychair Nov 2012 #14
shawn703 Nov 2012 #15
Skidmore Nov 2012 #18
whistler162 Nov 2012 #17
Coyotl Nov 2012 #19
RC Nov 2012 #25
quaker bill Nov 2012 #20
SDjack Nov 2012 #21
canoeist52 Nov 2012 #23
riverwalker Nov 2012 #22
randr Nov 2012 #26
groovedaddy Nov 2012 #27
Lex Nov 2012 #31
Lex Nov 2012 #30
Scurrilous Nov 2012 #32
yardwork Nov 2012 #33
hifiguy Nov 2012 #34
Mc Mike Nov 2012 #36
PD Turk Nov 2012 #37
DCKit Nov 2012 #38

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:34 AM

1. True but as DUers have pointed out

lots of men ripped off the billionaires and that's just effin' delicious.
I hope they figure out who got really rich here.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:36 AM

24. Directions

Actually, I think Crossroads needs a new GPS!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:35 AM

2. A fool and his money are soon parted!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:57 AM

3. Dear Parasitic Wealth-Guzzling Billionaires:

I guess sometimes money just says, "Kick me, I'm an idiot."

Sincerely,

Concerned Citizen

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to aquart (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:13 AM

28. Or, perhaps even better

 

Sincerely,

Citizens United

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to leftynyc (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:45 PM

29. Yes!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:07 AM

4. The old Turdblossom has lost its smell

and now its just a big ugly turd.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:20 AM

5. Remember!

This is how Rove got to be so rich!!!!!!!! He and those other Bush neo cons made money by lying to people, just like Madoff did! But I don't think I would like those 1%'ers like the outcome??????

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:23 AM

6. A perfect model for GOP privatization of government services

Scam

Scam

Scam

yup

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:37 AM

7. Yeah the super rich CEO of Bain Capital with almost a half billion dollar war chest

 

got beat by the community organizer. Go figure.

Rove's got some explaining to do.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:53 AM

8. Karl I have a piece of advice, think about "Witness Protection Program"

 

The Chinese won't appreciate this loss at all...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:58 AM

9. And He Was Gonna Be "Fiscally Responsible"???

That's the biggest rushpublican lie that needs to get punctured. Rover looks like he took his billionaire buddies to the cleaners and it'll be interesting to see the long term residuals of this. Sadly I suspect the big money will be back in 2014 but nowhere near the volume we just saw. Will Rover be the one with his hands on the biggest bundle? Stay tuned.

The wild spending of the SuperPacs and Team Willard really contrast to the "fiscal conservative" mantra they tried to peddle they know how to make and save money. Sure doesn't look like it here. If anything, Willard was operating a welfare program for unemployed ex-dubya exiles. Be assured if he had gotten near the treasury the doors would have been flung open and the defecits would soar (and be hidden as usual). These goons made their money off the backs of others...that's what vulture capitalism is and we just escaped having our government become a victim...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:59 AM

10. recycled

With all of the monopolies in the corporate sector most of the money was pulled from the left pocket and stuffed back into the right pocket.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:21 AM

11. Karma's a real bitch, right KKKarl?

I would like nothing more than to see that sick hate-mongering piece of shit get chewed and spit out by the 1%ers who thought they invested in a sure thing by buying the elections through KKKarl.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:22 AM

12. Remember the more they spent the better

Obama looked, there were a lot of people working due to this election.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:38 AM

13. Why were they pissed? Did they think they could...BUY AN ELECTION?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Brickbat (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:44 AM

16. I would guess they were sold that line

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Brickbat (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:23 PM

35. Think about your problems

 

All the issues you have in life. How many of those problems could be solved, or at least made much more tolerable, if you had unlimited amounts of money?

Now think about these billionaires who signed checks to Rove. They dont have the problems you and I have. They likely have never known any hardship that cant be resolved with cash. They have been able to buy anything and get what they want because they have the resources.

So to answer your question, yes they thought they could buy an election. You and I know that boots on the ground and hard work is how you win an election. All they have ever done is collect money and invest it. They thought those principles would work here because thats the only perspective they have.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:39 AM

14. Got to keep perspective

In the end the money is not the point. Losing a $100 million to them is like me losing a $20 bill. I am not happy about it and will kick myself for being so stupid but its not going to bankrupt me. The money isn't the big deal. They have TONS of money (really, an actual ton of money ) It's being embarrassed and ridiculed for backing the loser. People don't like to lose. Very, very rich people that are used to getting their way don't like to lose a lot. It not the money. It's the losing.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:43 AM

15. They kept Kyl's seat in Republican hands

That's probably the only positive. Oh and they saved Michelle Bachmann, Steve King, Eric Cantor, etc. who can make sure their agenda stays alive in the House.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to shawn703 (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:51 AM

18. I think some of those seats were "saved" because the districts they come from

are so gerrymandered that they are difficult to move and some regions just have large numbers of like minded people who support this type of politician. The NW portion of Iowa is pretty darned conservative and I was pleasantly surprised that Vilsack did as well as she did.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:46 AM

17. Channeling Marlon Brando, Godfather voice,......

Karl my friend you lost our money. How are you going to repay the money not to mention the vig?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM

19. Rove alone spent $25 per vote in North Dakota, and Berg lost by under 3,000 votes

 

One reason Berg lost is because Rove spent $25 per vote in North Dakota.
You can't buy North Dakotans, but you sure can piss them off if you think you can!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Coyotl (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:38 AM

25. North Dakotans think they are independent thinkers.

 

And they can be. They don't like outsiders coming in and telling them what to do. Not at all. That hurt Berg.
North Dakota is a rural, Red state. But, ND is the only state to have a State run Mill & Elevator. Plus they are the only state to have a State run bank. It is political suicide to mess with either one. And yet you talk to them and Socialism is bad. Obamacare is Socialism and they don't want it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM

20. One way to read it

Is that they spent +/- a billion dollars to move +/- 400,000 votes in Indiana and NC. However that is a generous read to Rove's benefit, as most polling indicates that nearly all of those votes had moved before they spent the money. A slightly better read would be that they moved 6 million votes nationally, however it would have taken closer to 10 million to do the job.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:04 AM

21. Over-paying for TV ads ran a lot of money into companies owned

by Bain, and that ran profits Rmoney. Have seen anything recently about Rmoney. He's probably with his love -- his money in the Caribbean.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SDjack (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:17 AM

23. Thank You. Everyone talks about the record amount of money spent. But...

not many are asking where it ended up. The money didn't trickle down as a stimulus for the economy, it passed from the 1% to the 1%.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:05 AM

22. oh snap

they not only got nothing, they paid twice as much to get it! These are the people who are going to "fix the deficit"?!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:48 AM

26. Sooner or later even a turd blossom looses its appeal

to turd blossom lovers!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:57 AM

27. Many, many elections have been won by money. Why should they think

this one would be any different? I'd like to think Rove is a con man but, then, it appears he may just be another arrogant asshole.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to groovedaddy (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:47 PM

31. Seems like

maybe they were stupid with their money instead of strategic.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:46 PM

30. Doesn't seem like the Republicans are very good businessmen after all, does it?



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:06 PM

32. K & R

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:10 PM

33. Bain is a fraud and a scam. Romney is not a successful business man. He's a thief.

Trump is a thief. These so-called business men are actually con artists who figured out how to use government policies (that their cronies in Washington wrote into law in the first place) to steal billions of dollars from the American people. Too greedy to stop when they're ahead, they tried to take the last crumbs - like the Grinch who stole Christmas. Fortunately enough people woke up to their scam this time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:18 PM

34. If I were KKKarl (shudder), I'd be thinking about

 

a vacation in, say, Thailand, or somewhere even further away, for about ten years or so.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM

36. I'm concerned.

I hope he doesn't get the Agency's patented Lee Atwater retirement package.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM

37. I hope this all goes viral

I hope the billionaires keep whining and stomping their feet, maybe it will shine a spotlight on the fact that they thought they could buy an election, and were entitled to do so

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:27 PM

38. How long until they figure out that Mitt Romney put most of that money...

 

into his own pocket?

It's going to be a hoot. I don't want credit for that revelation.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread