The Government in France mentioned raising the retirement

[Woodswalker]

age from 62 to 64 and over a million people hit the streets in protest. This was attempted in France over a decade ago and millions took to the streets in protests which even turned violent at the time and the French Gov backed off.
Here in the US they/Republicans are talking about raising the retirement age to 70 all while life expectancy has actually gone down in the last few yrs and the people sit here and go "well I suppose" with many voting for politicians who've run their campaigns on fucking with Social Security????
We're freaking doomed

[appalachiablue]

3. ++

[Johnny2X2X]

2. Work to live

Not live to work.

There is more to life than work. And people should get to enjoy their older years without slaving away until the day they die.

[albacore]

4. But...but...but..... the Bible says...

"The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."

We're supposed to work until we die, so what difference does "retirement age" make?

The Protestant Work Ethic is the cornerstone of capitalism.

Not a believer, myself... so I don't care what the Christo-fascists think.

[dawg]

8. The context of that Bible story is interesting.

The early Christian churches adopted a model that was, essentially, Communist. Everyone contributed what they could afford, and everyone took whatever they needed.

In one of the churches, I forget which one, some lazy assholes started taking advantage. So the "no work, no eat" policy was in response to that. I don't think it was ever intended to be a teaching about how to run a society as a whole. Just a way of dealing with assholes in one particular church who were taking advantage of everyone else.

[albacore]

17. Original intent is not the problem. It's interpretation of that intent.

I believe it was intended to be a lesson on running a society.
That's the wonderful thing about the Bible....you can read it and interpret it any way you want.... or just make shit up.

[3Hotdogs]

5. Raising the age makes sense to me. Ya see, there was a congressman (don't know what party)

posted on D.U. two weeks ago

He pointed out that some people want to work longer -- don't want to retire.


Don't'ja think those people should be supported?

[bluesbassman]

6. I plan on working until I'm 70.

Have the physical and mental ability to do so, and I like what I do. It also fits my financial planning goals. But it’s my choice to do so, and I’m keenly aware that other may not want nor are capable of doing the same, and I support their decision to retire at 62 or 65 100%.

What I don’t support is corporate backed politicians making those choices for me or my fellow citizens.

[usedtobedemgurl]

11. My boyfriend planned to work into his seventies...

Then, he met me. After ten years together, I was in an accident. He retired about ten years early, to look after me. Now, I am counting the years until I am old enough to claim on my ex-husband’s disability. How does it make sense you must wait until 60 something to claim disability on your ex-husband’s account? So, if I am severely disabled at 30, and I have not banked enough hours for disability, I have to wait for 30 plus years? Yeah, that is taking care of your citizens!!!

[Meadowoak]

7. No, they can work as long as they want. Don't raise the retirement

Age. Anybody that did physical labor, like myself can barely make it to 62. Nobody will force anyone that wants to work to 70, to retire any earlier. Don't be foolish.

[dawg]

9. Now where did I put that damned yellow vest ...

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

10. Trade that yellow vest for an orange flotation vest.

Then sit in a boat, with a fishing rod, and let the waves rock you to sleep.

Dreams of Social Security.

[Takket]

12. well rethugs are talking about it but voters have not given them the power to do it

so i don't think protests in the streets are warranted.

[Woodswalker]

13. They have done it look at the cost of Medicare today

and having to work to 67 to get full benifits from Social Security.

[Magoo48]

14. The majority of Americans will not be inconvenienced to save a benefit or their environment.

Please, please prove me wrong my fellow countrymen.

[Woodswalker]

15. Republicans will do it hook or crook

If they can't cut programs thru legislation they will defund it and watch it collapse, seems to be the route they've chosen now, then stand there telling everyone "See we told You" then they'll usher in private companies/Walstreet and old age retirements will be as fucked up as our Healthcare System and Europe will have even more reason to laugh at us.

[Hortensis]

16. We're living longer and healthier. MANY much longer. We all know that.

Let's keep it real and honest.

Just maybe technology advances can make extending the work years to pay for decades of retirement unnecessary.

How about we just skip raising the retirement age and go to redistributing wealth and taxing it equitably?

AND/OR how about we institute a universal basic income for all, funded by shared revenue from national resources, as Hillary Clinton planned to move toward as president?

Want it? We're the ones who'll do it. The only ones.

Tell people vote Democratic to have it.

[Woodswalker]

18. Your wrong, Life expectancy in the US has dropped, let's keep it real

[Hortensis]

20. You like numbers, check the rest of them. You're not dying right now

to show temporary was at least permanent for you, but even if it was and you "won" this stance, your cohort would still statistically be living longer than at any previous time.

Lifespans are longer and healthier. If you're typical, you have a long, mostly healthy retirement ahead of you and need a decent retirement income to enjoy it with.

[GoodRaisin]

19. Here they are still worried about her emails.

[marmar]

21. The French do not take shit. They'll shut the country down if they have to.