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GGoss

(1,273 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 10:25 PM Feb 2023

Christianity 'has devolved into a rabid tribe': Lauren Boebert bashed for praying for Biden's death

Christianity 'has devolved into a rabid tribe': Lauren Boebert bashed for praying for Biden's death - RawStory

Speaking to a church audience, Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) told the crowd to pray for Joe Biden: "May his days be few and another take his office.”

It isn't the first time she's made such a "prayer." She's been using the line "may his days be few" since 2022, when she spoke to the Charis Christian Center Family Camp Meeting in Colorado.

It once again caused an uproar among those on social media who saw the video.

"THIS is the self-proclaimed party of Jesus Christ," tweeted political commentator Lindy Li. "This is the self-appointed party of Christianity SHAME ON YOU! This is why church pews are emptying at a ferocious rate. Why increasing numbers of Americans now say they are religiously unaffiliated. Christianity in America has devolved into a rabid tribe of Talibangelicals and gun-totin Y’all Qaeda fanatics."


Link: https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-prays-biden/

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Christianity 'has devolved into a rabid tribe': Lauren Boebert bashed for praying for Biden's death (Original Post) GGoss Feb 2023 OP
Well Said. Deuxcents Feb 2023 #1
always been, they just hid it better before the teabaggers and it opened up everywhere with the Pig. Thomas Hurt Feb 2023 #2
It has always been that way malaise Feb 2023 #65
Tax these damned political centers. niyad Feb 2023 #3
Amen to that!! BComplex Feb 2023 #43
Y'all Qaeda! Me. Feb 2023 #4
I remember reading that Laura Ingalls Wilder used to pray every night for the death of FDR liberal_mama Feb 2023 #5
In my school we had to lear the 10 Commandments Rhiannon12866 Feb 2023 #14
Yeah, this is why I'm not religious liberal_mama Feb 2023 #19
Not to mention "religious" hypocrites... Rhiannon12866 Feb 2023 #20
Religious hypocrisy is the worst! In my life, the absolute worst human beings I know are the liberal_mama Feb 2023 #39
That's what I meant. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2023 #42
You missed the REST of the Old Testament jmowreader Feb 2023 #62
Just finished reading "Killers of the Flower Moon" about the "Reign of Terror" niyad Feb 2023 #58
I need to read that book, I have several Osage friends MagickMuffin Feb 2023 #61
The story was truly horrifying. I understand that a movie is about to be released, niyad Feb 2023 #78
Indeed it was and still a tragedy MagickMuffin Feb 2023 #80
Nothing new. My church prayed for the death of JFK - because he was catholic. Runningdawg Feb 2023 #6
Imprecatory prayers are forbidden DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #10
Forbidden by whom? Mariana Feb 2023 #21
The holy men of the Sky Wizard. rubbersole Feb 2023 #36
Every mainstream Christian religion DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #53
Lying, cheating, rape, child abuse, and murder are not forbidden? Runningdawg Feb 2023 #68
I fail to see how that statement DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #76
It wasn't to invalidate anything only to point out The Church Runningdawg Feb 2023 #79
My old "church" was a CULT that held me hostage for 18 years. Three generations out the same people Runningdawg Feb 2023 #69
I'm so sorry DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #75
Any Christian knows this type of prayer is forbidden DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #7
Our Faith prays in the Litany for the standing president. During the former one in the office sprinkleeninow Feb 2023 #8
I used to privately pray for BushCheney that they might be completely, suddenly enlightened... Hekate Feb 2023 #18
How you said for enlightemlnment, wisdom and exibiting justice. sprinkleeninow Feb 2023 #35
And that is exactly how to pray for enemies - soldierant Feb 2023 #51
Love your enemy. I heard that somewhere. Marcuse Feb 2023 #64
My path doesn't say I have to actually love them. But it also says whatever good or bad you do... Hekate Feb 2023 #67
Because it's not Christianity. debm55 Feb 2023 #9
Yes it is JI7 Feb 2023 #11
Old Testament. Jesus preached forgiveness and turning the other cheek -- a New Testament... Hekate Feb 2023 #27
In a multicultural world, ... old as dirt Feb 2023 #57
Of course it is. Mariana Feb 2023 #22
It's really a bad thing in Christian faith and practice lees1975 Feb 2023 #12
"church pews are emptying at a ferocious rate" Takket Feb 2023 #13
Groups of people can accomplish more for the common good together summer_in_TX Feb 2023 #44
So let's do away with the separation of church and state BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #15
So much of what you are saying is true. notinkansas Feb 2023 #40
Praying for someone's death is a hex Withywindle Feb 2023 #16
You and I seem to be on the same page Hekate Feb 2023 #31
May all involved receive everything they deserve. My benediction. The niyad Feb 2023 #59
Christianity has NOT developed into a rabid tribe. Get educated, DU. LAS14 Feb 2023 #17
The majority of Christian voters in the US cast their ballots for Trump in 2016. Mariana Feb 2023 #24
I've defended Christianity, the teachings of Jesus, many times here. But the "tribe" of the ethical Hekate Feb 2023 #38
Ethical Christians who try to live up to Jesus's teachings have taken to heart summer_in_TX Feb 2023 #45
You say it well, and I agree Hekate Feb 2023 #46
Thank you, dear Hekate. summer_in_TX Feb 2023 #50
+1 Totally agree.n/t ChazII Feb 2023 #70
Maybe not, but a shitload of American Christians sure have . . . hatrack Feb 2023 #56
Yes, pews are emptying as they should be! KPN Feb 2023 #23
Repughs are just bad, bad people. ificandream Feb 2023 #25
Yet they will quote the Bible about leaders being appointed by God... Trump, Dubya. keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #26
They refused to see that Obama (and now Biden) exhibit all the fruits of the Spirit. summer_in_TX Feb 2023 #49
Quote from Woody Allen in Hannah and Her Sisters - Mme. Defarge Feb 2023 #28
Let's Not Forget that there are Good Liberal Christian Churches out there! electric_blue68 Feb 2023 #29
American Christianity has literally morphed into a death cult. Initech Feb 2023 #30
YEA, no kidding! They seemed to have forgotten that bible verse bluestarone Feb 2023 #66
The secret the repukes don't want to talk about. The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #32
BoBo is such a baby. She is vain beyond her years. n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2023 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Eyeball_Kid Feb 2023 #34
That statement is a quote from a Bible verse that... hvn_nbr_2 Feb 2023 #37
Still, once in a while, don't you wish it wasn't all bullshit 3Hotdogs Feb 2023 #41
As I used to say during the BushCheney admin: May they go to the Hell they claim to believe in Hekate Feb 2023 #47
This is very familiar PatSeg Feb 2023 #48
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith are the public face of Christianity today. keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #52
Why do people of faith allow their religion to be used in such a manner? Runningdawg Feb 2023 #71
Until the so-called good Christians, in and out of churches, shout "Blasphemy" from the roof-tops sanatanadharma Feb 2023 #54
Amen! nt blugbox Feb 2023 #60
Dammit. Why can't follks bring themselves to say CHRISTO-FASCISTS? Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2023 #55
So ridiculous... Blue Owl Feb 2023 #63
Please, we are having sarisataka Feb 2023 #72
There's a bit of reading into this quote...no? Chakaconcarne Feb 2023 #73
Kick GGoss Feb 2023 #74
Psalms 109:8-15 News Junkie Feb 2023 #77

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
5. I remember reading that Laura Ingalls Wilder used to pray every night for the death of FDR
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 10:54 PM
Feb 2023

So did her daughter, Rose Wilder Lane.

I'm not religious, but I'd be lying if I said I never wished anything negative about certain people who I dislike.

But Boebert identifies with Christianity and that doesn't seem to be a very Christian thing to do.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
14. In my school we had to lear the 10 Commandments
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:35 PM
Feb 2023

And I distinctly remember that important one regarding killing...

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
39. Religious hypocrisy is the worst! In my life, the absolute worst human beings I know are the
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:27 AM
Feb 2023

most religious. They love to fantasize about people burning in hell. They don't care if women die during illegal abortions, they don't care if poor children starve to death, they rejoice when someone is executed. They disgust me.

They constantly break the commandments.

I'm not talking about someone believing in God. My mother believes in God, but prays at home. Although I'm not religious, I indulge her and buy her Jesus statues and gifts for holidays and her birthday. I have never heard my mother say anything racist or bigoted in my life.

I'm talking about these religious fanatics that are so intolerant of others.

I live in Buffalo, NY and years ago, pro life religious zealots cheered when an abortion doctor was murdered in his own home, while fixing himself some soup. The murderer was a hero to these people. This doctor was also a close friend's OB/GYN, he delivered both of her babies, and she said he was a wonderful doctor and person.

These people pretend to be Christians, but it's just a gigantic death cult. That's all they think of is death, killing, and non fanatics burning in the fires of hell.

Boebert can go suck it with her fake Christianity.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
42. That's what I meant.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:41 AM
Feb 2023

How can these hypocrites claim to be "Christian" when they behave in a way that is the complete opposite of Christian teachings?? They lie or support politicians who refuse to tell the truth. They claim to be "pro-life," yet support the death penalty and would rather see a woman die than to end a pregnancy that would kill her. I don't know where these MAGAts learned their version of Christianity, but I went to Sunday school as a kid (my favorite teacher was a kind Black lady, friend of my mother's) and had mandatory religion classes in school and though I don't consider myself religious, what these hypocrites are spouting bears no relation to what I learned growing up...

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
62. You missed the REST of the Old Testament
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:35 PM
Feb 2023

Leviticus 20 is a bona fide hit list and half the town was on it.

niyad

(113,297 posts)
58. Just finished reading "Killers of the Flower Moon" about the "Reign of Terror"
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 09:58 AM
Feb 2023

against the Osage Nation, and wilder and her family are connected, squatters on the land. Her father tells her, when she asks why they are there, since neither of her psrents likes Indians, that the government will be taking the land and giving it to settlers, first ones there getting the best. Between that, and your comment, I am glad that I never read the books, or watched the series.

MagickMuffin

(15,937 posts)
61. I need to read that book, I have several Osage friends
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:29 PM
Feb 2023


One of them told me stories about what happened to her tribe. This was before the book came out. I was truly floored by what she told me.

Her family still participates in PowWows. Husband and sons dance and play the drums. Beautiful people!


niyad

(113,297 posts)
78. The story was truly horrifying. I understand that a movie is about to be released,
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:13 AM
Feb 2023

based on the book.

The level of corruption, complicity, and just plain evil is just astounding. But, sadly, not surprising if one has the slightest knowledge of the genocidal intent of the invaders.

MagickMuffin

(15,937 posts)
80. Indeed it was and still a tragedy
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 06:56 PM
Feb 2023


Apparently Ted Turner sold back some of the Osage land

Osage News
·
Bigheart Times: "In what is believed to be the largest land transaction in the history of Osage County, the Osage Nation closed today on the purchase of 43,000 acres of ranch land from media mogul Ted Turner for $74 million, according to the deed filing at the county courthouse. That comes out to about $1,720 an acre."


Link about movie: Martin Scorsese and stars Lily Gladstone, Leonardo Dicaprio, Robert De Niro, and more.

https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/killers-of-the-flower-moon-release-date-cast-details/?fbclid=IwAR0FgttK4ZmvdmpXxUzz68OaQ8AQG33S1fq3nLXcALPC7bgR0m7KsA5_4Yo






More photos from the movie set! I could’ve driven up there but never got the chance.


https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/killersoftheflowermoon



Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
6. Nothing new. My church prayed for the death of JFK - because he was catholic.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:06 PM
Feb 2023

Then they prayed for the death of the SCOUTS over RvW and for the death of women who had an abortion.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
53. Every mainstream Christian religion
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 06:59 AM
Feb 2023

The imprecatory psalms are one thing and can be prayed in their context, but imprecatory prayer is a curse, and forbidden.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
68. Lying, cheating, rape, child abuse, and murder are not forbidden?
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:07 PM
Feb 2023

What was that phrase that was repeated after 911? Oh yeah, where are the good Muslims who are supposed to stop the bad ones?
Silence IS consent.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
76. I fail to see how that statement
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 07:30 PM
Feb 2023

Invalidates my statement that imprecatory prayers are forbidden. They are essentially a curse

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
79. It wasn't to invalidate anything only to point out The Church
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:32 PM
Feb 2023

CONTINUES to ignore its other crimes. I see a forbidden prayer less damaging than rewarding pedophiles.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
69. My old "church" was a CULT that held me hostage for 18 years. Three generations out the same people
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:13 PM
Feb 2023

have trained their kids and grandkids for the next crusade. 1-6, new abortion laws and the fact not a single judge can lay hands on DJT says they are accomplishing their task.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
75. I'm so sorry
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 07:26 PM
Feb 2023

If there is a God, I would hope a punishment for those who corrupt scripture for their own gain.

sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
8. Our Faith prays in the Litany for the standing president. During the former one in the office
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:14 PM
Feb 2023
of the presidency, I could not say this part. I may have reacted in the fleshly sense. Our Orthodox Faith does not discriminate. But I did. So be it. No politics from the Solea ['pulpit']. That's anathema.

"For our country, for the president, and for all in public service, let us pray to the Lord. For this city, and for every city and land, and for the faithful who live in them, let us pray to the Lord. For favorable weather, for an abundance of the fruits of the earth, and for peaceful times, let us pray to the Lord."

https://www.goarch.org › the-divine...

The Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom - Liturgical Texts of the ...

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
18. I used to privately pray for BushCheney that they might be completely, suddenly enlightened...
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:55 PM
Feb 2023

… as to the evil they were doing and its consequences. A thunderbolt of enlightenment. I figured that if that were to happen they’d be pretty miserable.

I couldn’t bring myself, for both ethical and spiritual reasons, to actually pray for their deaths. Trump was harder — much harder.

I understand the intent of the passages about our leaders in the liturgies in Christian and Jewish places of worship, which in my experience are nearly the same. As written, those passages are not an endorsement as such. In my mind I merely add, “May they be wise and just,” which is perfectly applicable to any and all in leadership.

It would chill me to be present at an imprecatory prayer, with a congregation “casting spells of ruin and bane” as one character in a novel I read put it.



sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
35. How you said for enlightemlnment, wisdom and exibiting justice.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:22 AM
Feb 2023
I never would petition for any harmful demise or removal by death. Not in my vocabulary. But I just couldn't even abide with that part of 'pray for the president'. Recently although it was put upon me to ask for the former individual one to receive a theophany as St. Paul did on the road to Damascus.

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
51. And that is exactly how to pray for enemies -
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:28 AM
Feb 2023

for their enlightenment. It's a no-brainer - and also a win-win. If they don't get enlightened, neither of yu is ano worse off. If they do, both of you are better off.

Nancy Pelosi has said she prayed for Trump** when he was in office. I couldn't begin to guess the exact words - but I'm confident that's exactly what she prayed for.

And all those who bash all Christians - I am inclined to pray thay each one of them think of some characteristic of their own, not paersonality trait, but a marker, such as a birth category or a philispohical belief they embrace. then think of fomeone with the same category who is a monster - and there will be at least one - there always is. Then they should consider how they would feel if someon said of that marker, "Those people are all like that (monstar.)

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
67. My path doesn't say I have to actually love them. But it also says whatever good or bad you do...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 02:12 PM
Feb 2023

…will return to you threefold.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
27. Old Testament. Jesus preached forgiveness and turning the other cheek -- a New Testament...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:07 AM
Feb 2023

He took a great deal from the tradition in which he was raised, but the emphasis was important, and the additions were as well.

I don’t see him preaching about killing people, though many of those claiming to be his followers never evolved so far.

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
57. In a multicultural world, ...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 09:23 AM
Feb 2023

...folks from different cultures are going to have different ideas about that.

lees1975

(3,850 posts)
12. It's really a bad thing in Christian faith and practice
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:22 PM
Feb 2023

to take a verse of scripture completely out of its context like that, and either make a joke out of it, or use it in the way Boebert did here. That's blasphemy, and I've heard my own pastors call similar misuses of the Bible out from the pulpit, and claim that it demonstrates the users lack of genuine faith.

If Boebert is a Christian, as she claims, then this diatribe, among the many similar speeches like this she makes in churches where she campaigns, which is a demonstration of unpatriotic disrespect for the constitution, is using a church for personal political gain, which is also blasphemous disregard for its Christian mission and purpose. It's a completely anti-Christian retort, which trashes Jesus' instruction to love your enemies and pray for them, not against them.

And she needs to know that President Biden has far too much integrity, demonstrates human decency and respect to everyone, including those with whom he disagrees, to stoop this low and make some kind of disparaging comment like this. It's quite a contrast in character, between him and his Christian conduct and her lack of it.

Takket

(21,564 posts)
13. "church pews are emptying at a ferocious rate"
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:27 PM
Feb 2023

The best thing that could ever happen to America and the entire world is to find out that faith is a journey they can take hand in hand with their God(s), whomever (or whatever) that may be, and that the organizations are doing nothing more than taking their money and denying them of their freedom to explore their own relationship with their high powers by telling them exactly what to think

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
44. Groups of people can accomplish more for the common good together
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:47 AM
Feb 2023

than alone, in many instances. So there's an important place for faith communities / churches.

Discernment is needed to ensure that they're not being exploited or those financial gifts misused or abused. Keeping an eye on things seems to be a requirement in every aspect of life, certainly it is in politics.

BOSSHOG

(37,051 posts)
15. So let's do away with the separation of church and state
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:49 PM
Feb 2023

And turn loose the assessors.

Garbage human beings hide behind “Christianity” and operate tax exempt while lying, hating, denigrating all in a tax exempt status. Damn. Sometimes I get confused. Was I talking about Catholics or republicans? A property tax bill from the good ole USA might prompt the pope to corral his bishops who today don’t give a fuck about any separation of any state and any church. They just want to codify their beliefs. Ya know. In the land of the free.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
16. Praying for someone's death is a hex
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:51 PM
Feb 2023

It's a form of witchcraft - one that many actual witches will refuse to do.

I just hope she realizes what she's really doing there. Now, praying for someone to get a really good look at themselves in the mirror - that might be a hex or it might not, depending on what's there.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
17. Christianity has NOT developed into a rabid tribe. Get educated, DU.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:54 PM
Feb 2023

Much of Christianity stands for the teachings of Jesus, care for the poor, etc.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
24. The majority of Christian voters in the US cast their ballots for Trump in 2016.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:01 AM
Feb 2023

The numbers were very little different in 2020.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
38. I've defended Christianity, the teachings of Jesus, many times here. But the "tribe" of the ethical
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:25 AM
Feb 2023

… seems to grow ever smaller, while the “tribe” of the Evangelicals with their “prosperity gospel” and vast religious ignorance seems to grow ever larger.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
45. Ethical Christians who try to live up to Jesus's teachings have taken to heart
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:02 AM
Feb 2023

Jesus's call for humility. So they don't put themselves in front of cameras or take credit for good works even when they could legitimately do so, all too often.

So they've allowed these Evangelicals and Televangelists to seize the media image. The propaganda has sucked in many. But they are heretical and defame Christ. Their theology is bad, bad for them, bad for others, bad for the planet – and it is not true to the overarching thrust and sweep of the bible.

C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters provide a great allegory for the temptations that lure folks away from following Jesus's teachings and into pride, anger, selfishness, power, and then further descent away from the joys of love and service. That allegory is shows the truth of what has been going on in these so-called Christian churches.

Fighting against that evil (and many have indeed become evil) requires, IMO, fighting bad theology with good theology and speaking up more. Then also showing the traits one expects of followers of Jesus and the Holy Spirit, the service, devotion, kindness, mercy, love, faithfulness, self-control, and joy, making sure that your faith is known as your motivation. That's similar to bank tellers learning to tell counterfeit bills from the real thing. They only study those that are genuine. It's up to us to reveal the genuine so the contrast becomes obvious.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
50. Thank you, dear Hekate.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:26 AM
Feb 2023

Just like our country, flawed as it is, has much good and ideals worth defending and expanding, so does our faith.

hatrack

(59,585 posts)
56. Maybe not, but a shitload of American Christians sure have . . .
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 09:14 AM
Feb 2023

Especially white, fundamentalist American Christians.

ificandream

(9,372 posts)
25. Repughs are just bad, bad people.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:02 AM
Feb 2023

We don't have to worry about them crowding us when we get to heaven. (Assuming you believe in that.)

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
26. Yet they will quote the Bible about leaders being appointed by God... Trump, Dubya.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:06 AM
Feb 2023

Yet they will quote the Bible about leaders being appointed by God... Trump, Dubya.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
49. They refused to see that Obama (and now Biden) exhibit all the fruits of the Spirit.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:22 AM
Feb 2023

Jesus told us that would be how we could recognize his own. Both men show joy, peace, love, goodness, kindness, patience, gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control.

Trump, DeSantis, Abbott, McCarthy, MTG, Boebert, and too many others to name show traits the exact opposite than those by which we are to recognize those who belong to Jesus.

They are joyless and dissatisfied, engage in strife and discord, demonstrate animosity, hatred, wickedness, corruption, intolerance, maliciousness, intractability, frustration, harshness, brutality, disloyalty and treachery, not to mention instability and rashness.

Jesus would be quite clear in saying that they do not belong to him. They are ravening wolves here to steal and destroy.

We are called to seek justice, love mercy, and resist evil – and they are evil.

Mme. Defarge

(8,028 posts)
28. Quote from Woody Allen in Hannah and Her Sisters -
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:09 AM
Feb 2023

"If Jesus came back and saw what was being done in his name, he'd never stop throwing up."

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
29. Let's Not Forget that there are Good Liberal Christian Churches out there!
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:10 AM
Feb 2023

I don't belong - I'm an Ex-Catholic that never turned Christian (still Spiritual) but I know a of wonderful liberal ?Episcopalian Church St John The Divine Cathedral by Columbia U. Another church down in The Village. There's more, these are one's I really know.

Riverside Church is liberal ?Baptist and where Dr King gave his Anti-Vietnam War speech April '67.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
30. American Christianity has literally morphed into a death cult.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:11 AM
Feb 2023

The church has truly lost its' way. It's scary to think what would happen if these assholes regain power.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
32. The secret the repukes don't want to talk about.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:19 AM
Feb 2023

Christianity is crashing in America. They keep preaching like they have a huge majority yet they are in the minority.

A new IFS analysis using the American Family Survey suggests that religious attendance has declined significantly in the past two years. The share of regular churchgoers is down by 6 percentage points, from 34% in 2019 to 28% in 2021.

Response to GGoss (Original post)

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
37. That statement is a quote from a Bible verse that...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:25 AM
Feb 2023

they take completely out of context. The verse (not gonna bother looking it up) pertains specifically to one person thousands of years ago. They (the wanting-God-to-commit-their-homicidal-fantasies-for-them quote it as if it's a prophecy they can apply to whoever they hate this week.

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
41. Still, once in a while, don't you wish it wasn't all bullshit
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:40 AM
Feb 2023

Last edited Tue Feb 7, 2023, 07:47 AM - Edit history (1)

and there really was a slow turning skewer for the likes of Trump, Cheney, Green, Bobo, Little Marco, Cruz --- and on and on - oh, I forgot Billy Barr.

PatSeg

(47,423 posts)
48. This is very familiar
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:22 AM
Feb 2023

Someone said this some years back and I think it was about Barack Obama. I can't remember who it was. Maybe Sarah Palin?

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
52. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith are the public face of Christianity today.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:35 AM
Feb 2023

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith are the public face of Christianity today.

sanatanadharma

(3,703 posts)
54. Until the so-called good Christians, in and out of churches, shout "Blasphemy" from the roof-tops
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 08:14 AM
Feb 2023

... and otherwise publicly call out those who falsely claim the cloak of Christianity while smiting others ...

... until then there are no true Christians nor churches that are innocent of the harm caused in Christ's name.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
55. Dammit. Why can't follks bring themselves to say CHRISTO-FASCISTS?
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 08:35 AM
Feb 2023

Putting lipstick on these fascist pigs is a huge disservice to our democracy, our country, and real christians and followers of other religions who actually believe in love and kindness.

They are Nazis waiting to happen.

Blue Owl

(50,360 posts)
63. So ridiculous...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:44 PM
Feb 2023

Joe Biden faithfully attends church damn near every week, whereas her orange man-baby NEVER goes and can't even hold a prop bible up in the right direction.

Boebert's brain is so fogged up with unclarity and stupidity that it's no wonder she is every bit the blithering idiot she appears to be...

sarisataka

(18,637 posts)
72. Please, we are having
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:44 PM
Feb 2023

A good old fashioned hate fest, no time for nuance.

I don't think people stop to think of the implications of their words.
My favorite quote has to be-

Garbage human beings hide behind “Christianity” and operate tax exempt while lying, hating, denigrating all in a tax exempt status. Damn. Sometimes I get confused. Was I talking about Catholics or republicans?

Since President Biden is a notably devout Catholic...

Chakaconcarne

(2,448 posts)
73. There's a bit of reading into this quote...no?
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:55 PM
Feb 2023

It can easily be interpreted as she means may his days be few in office...

We know her tendencies, but the quote does not stand on it's own in conveying the message interpreted here.

 

News Junkie

(312 posts)
77. Psalms 109:8-15
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 10:00 PM
Feb 2023

8 May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.

9 May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.

10 May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.

11 May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.

12 May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.

13 May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation.

14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.

15 May their sins always remain before the LORD, that he may blot out their name from the earth.

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