Whenever Trump was investigated and not held accountable this happened.

[fightforfreedom]

Like a true narcissist, a true lunatic, he became emboldened. He gains a sense of invincibility and commits worse crimes. He mocks those who investigate him. I have compared Trump to the BTK killer. Their brains pretty much work the same way.

We all witnessed how Trump was emboldened while president. When Trump became president he didn't have a clue how things worked. He is ignorant. However he learns through lawyers quickly. He learned about pardons and how to weaponize them. He learned he could bypass the Senate confirmation process and install corrupt people to lead our government agencies.

The Mueller investigation, the first impeachment trial, failed to hold Trump accountable. What happened, he became emboldened and attempted to over throw our country. His attempted Coup was an act of madness. Trump was so lucky members of Congress were not murdered, Pence was not murdered. What makes Trump even more dangerous is he is one of the luckiest lunatics who has ever lived.

In my humble opinion, If Garland, Smith, Willis, do not bring this motherfucker down he will become more emboldened. I believe he will burn our country, our democracy, to the ground in order to be president again. History warns us.

[GreenWave]

1. Mueller accepted the job with way too many limitations.

He should have rejected it.

[gab13by13]

5. With Barr holding him back

In 22 months Mueller indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people, many of them from Trump's inner circle.

Mueller believed that DOJ was following the money because Barr misled him, had Mueller followed the money there would have been a better outcome.

In 23 months Garland has 0 indictments of Trump's inner circle.

[fightforfreedom]

9. Apples and oranges.

It doesn't work comparing the Mueller investigation to J6 investigation. You continue to do it. Many of the people who Mueller indicted are Russians who will never be brought to justice. People like Manafort were charged for other crimes not related to Muellers investigation. Mueller didn't have to search the entire country for thousands of people who stormed the Capital.

The Mueller investigation failed to hold Trump accountable. Barr made sure of it. Mueller did not hold Barr accountable for his lies about Muellers work. HE should have came out and bluntly told everyone, Barr is lying about my report.

[gab13by13]

16. In 22 months Mueller indicted or got guilty pleas from

George Popadopoulas
Rick Gates
Michael Flynn
Richard Pinedo
Alex van der Zwaan
Konstantin Kilimnik
Michael Cohen
Roger Stone
Sam Patten

Most of the above people were from Trump's inner circle, Mueller would not have been able to indict them if they weren't in his jurisdiction.

13 Russian nationals and 3 Russian companies were indicted, but since they were in Russia they could not be tried in court.

Do you have a copy of the unredacted Mueller report for us to read?

Merrick Garland in 23 months - 0 indictments of Trump's inner circle.

[TheRickles]

36. Good question - Why hasn't the unredacted Mueller report been released yet?

Should be a pretty straightforward matter, no?

[Scrivener7]

43. Really. THAT reveals a lot. There is no reason why it hasn't been released.

[Beastly Boy]

37. Apples and oranges.

Without getting into specifics, Mueller's position is equivalent to Smith's, not Garland's.

To have a sense of equivalency, let's look at Smith's record 20 months form now

[fightforfreedom]

38. You backed up my post and still try and compare the two investigations, Bizarre.

YOU CAN"T COMPARE THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION TO THE J6 INVESTIGATION. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

[Scrivener7]

42. Are we at the "If you disagree with my opinion I will yell at you" phase

already?

My stars! It seems early in the day for that.

[onecaliberal]

35. But, but, it takes time. A lot of time. But only for trump and his minions of course

If Biden farts wrong Garland is quick to act.

[dlk]

32. Barr was undermining Mueller every step of the way

The entire investigation was designed to be a distraction and to fail. Republicans made sure of that.

[kentuck]

2. And the voters will be warned to get to the polls to stop the tyrant from winning...

They expect lightning in the bottle twice.

[CrispyQ]

3. This. And perfectly stated.

Sadly, I think that's the plan.

[PortTack]

27. Agree! Had to laugh yesterday, a poll was posted where tfg beats President Biden by 3

You want me to believe that 7 million +3% of the voters forgot their terror of having the orange mass for a second term and are now ready to embrace that again?? Sure

[lark]

4. Truth!

If he isn't indicted, I believe our country will not be a functioning democracy within 4 years, if not less.

[gab13by13]

6. I believe that Democrats would have won the House,

had Trump and his inner circle been indicted.

[Silent3]

8. Exactly!

And not having the House these next two years is a substantial blow to the effort needed to stem the authoritarian tide.

[CrispyQ]

11. Totally agree.

And a lack of indictments for the inner circle will impact dem turnout in the 2024 election, too.

[SoCalDavidS]

17. And Those Of Us Complaining About The Lack Of Accountability Will Be Blamed For Depressing Turnout

[CrispyQ]

18. Because we have so much power & influence.

Also because if we're on a democratic board saying the dems need to up their game, we probably don't do anything to help get out the vote.

[Rebl2]

24. Democrats not turning

out for the Presidential election pretty much says to me you don’t care about saving our Democracy.

[CrispyQ]

33. And if the DOJ doesn't indict Trump & he's allowed to run for president again?

What does that tell you about their commitment to democracy?


"Too much caution turns into immunity." Adam Schiff.

[Rebl2]

44. Says the same thing

They don’t care about our Democracy either

[markodochartaigh]

23. "I believe that Democrats would have won the House..."

Maybe, but the flagrant Republican gerrymandering in Ohio, Florida, and Texas, as well as the court stopping the attempt by Democrats in NY to counter the gerrymandering with their own really made the battle an uphill fight for Democrats. As usual the Republicans have enough money and power to fight on every front, while Democrats have to prioritize.

[Silent3]

7. Trump, and all the other fascists, are already emboldened by the slow, weak response to 1/6

They are free to plot and scheme and rig the system in their favor to end our democracy far faster than our timid, lethargic "justice" system is willing or able to respond.

[gab13by13]

10. What is scary,

is that so many people can't see that the insurrection has grown since 1/6/2021.

[CrispyQ]

14. It's looking like the strategy is to count on the voters to keep fascism at bay.

2024 is going to be a three-ring circus of freak shows, with the media right there with their spotlight, egging the freaks on.

[Silent3]

20. Any electorate that voted for Trump even once, then came with in a few % of doing it again...

...can't be counted on to keep fascism at bay, unfortunately.

[markodochartaigh]

25. True, almost half of voters are either

fascists or ok with fascism, and with gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, and suppression their votes count for more. But almost one third of voters didn't vote at all. If Democrats can wake up and educate enough of these nonvoters I think it would make all the difference.

[usonian]

48. Plus several million.

The only thing we can reliably influence is GOTV. And we have the numbers, and will have more. Anyone not named Joe Biden can't be relied upon to do all in their power to make things better. (Some others come close but don't have the clout).

I am starting my 2024 GOTV drive shortly!!

A twitter, FB, and even a DU post is a drop in the bucket, but even one more vote is a win.

[Justice matters.]

15. Too many prosecutors. Half say indict him, the other half say don't indict him.

Pomerantz, one of the most respected prosecutor said anyone other than hair furhair would have been indicted for financial frauds in a short second but other prosecutors stepped in and opined his plane would not lift...

Weisselberg got guilty verdicts on all 17 counts of tax fraud but not his mob boss...

Just too many prosecutors. Too many Republican-leaning (if not registered Repubs) prosecutors in name only...

[KS Toronado]

26. Believe some prosecutors are afraid of Тяцмp's wrath

He's well known as a very revengeful person who will destroy "disloyal" people.

[SCantiGOP]

12. And don't forget

When the FBI investigated Hillary, it was proof that she was corrupt. When the FBI investigated Trump, it was proof that the FBI was corrupt.
Trumpian logic.

[Ponietz]

13. The "Battle for the soul of Democracy" as President Biden put it

will not be won with a jobs report, record profits for Pfizer and Exxon, or tax credits for a new electric vehicle.

[Jarqui]

19. Trump's behavior unchecked is a blueprint for DeSantis

or whoever follows him because the United States will have proven itself to no longer be a nation of laws as it has been shown that not everyone has to obey the laws anymore.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. True. What about him flying migrants to Texas !!!!! A cog in the wheel

He got away with it!!!! So did Abbott.

[Jarqui]

39. I'm not sure he did entirely

I think they're getting sued (or seemed to be when I last heard about it)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Well that's good. Biggest irritation with these jokers

Toe the line up to criminal. Still think trump had a team to study what was clearly illegal and what was an easily breakable honor system tradition.

[Jarqui]

41. Looks like it is real and still on ...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/01/desantis-sued-over-marthas-vineyard-flights-00071797

[NullTuples]

21. Given the nature of the Republican Party, this could be generalized to the party itself.

[jalan48]

22. Looks like the buck is going to stop with Garland. Will he indict and prosecute?

[Farmer-Rick]

28. Trump is friends with the top American Oligarchs

Until you take away their power, Trump will continue to trample through our democracy. He will not be prosecuted for anything.

He is a symptom of our broken economic system that has condoned bribery of justice and democracy.

If tomorrow everyone would vote for democracy, we could be rid of this.

No voting for religious mythology, no voting for racism, no voting for capitalism, no voting for "leaders" and strong men, just vote for democracy........

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Like when a child steals money out of your purse and you

try to punish him a year later. Trump has definitely gotten worse. And the farther away you are from a crime the weaker support is. You can't manufacture outrage retroactively.

He's like a speeding out of control train now.

Still to this day applaud the 6 brave Dem congressmen who brought impeachment to table on Nov 15 2017, when his approvals were lowest.

Just as trump's gotten worse, supporters and abeters have adapted to us not stopping him.

+1

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. And to add insult to injury he beats Joe Biden, the good guy, in t

Today's polls

Do you think a conviction would change that???

[Escurumbele]

34. trump is dangerous, no doubt, but he has lost support, I believe we need to start worrying about

DeSantis, Hawley, Abbot, and the enablers like McCarthy, Jordan, the two high level crazies Boehbert and Greene, and many others who are older and afraid to rock the GOP boat. I believe trump is going away, he will be ignored, and hopefully in jail, but those I have mentioned are more dangerous.

[Bettie]

45. Not just him

all of them. All of the right wing wanna-be dictators.

They all become emboldened each time one of them gets away with it.

Nixon, Reagan, W...all of them presided over criminals in high office and none of them saw consequences.

Yes, Nixon resigned, but was not prosecuted. Of course, his crimes seem quaint and old timey. He didn't try to overthrow our government.

Now? Anything goes, they've learned that there are no consequences. For anything. If you are a rich, powerful right wing man, you really can shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it, you can do it and be rewarded for it.

Do I hope that Garland, Willis, or Smith are able to show him some consequences? Yes.

Do I honestly believe it will happen? No.

[republianmushroom]

46. 24 months and counting

[Danascot]

47. Even though he hasn't been frog-marched to the paddy wagon

I take comfort in the fact that all his legal problems on so many fronts are making him completely miserable. It’s likely the threat of arrest, trial and prison is as bad, in his mind, as the reality world be. He’s suffering and will never have another peaceful day for the rest of his life. He’s a prisoner of his own making.

[usonian]

49. It emboldens the nut jobs.

Danger Will Robinson.