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teach1st

(5,935 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 10:29 AM Feb 2023

Bill would ban the teaching of scientific theories in Montana

How the heck do these idiots get elected?

Bill would ban the teaching of scientific theories in Montana
Montana Public Radio, 2/7/2023

A bill in the state Legislature seeking to regulate science curriculum in public schools got its first hearing Monday. The legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.

More than 20 people testified against Senate Bill 235, concerned that it could keep teachers from including gravitational theory, evolution and cell theory in curriculum.

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The bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.

"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions," Emrich said.


https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/2023-02-07/bill-would-ban-the-teaching-of-scientific-theories-in-montana-schools
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JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,344 posts)
2. In Montana, the mass of a bison is simply illusion.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 10:38 AM
Feb 2023

Until it runs into you and flings you in the air with its horns. Then, there's a lesson in momentum, inertia, ballistics of flying bodies, and internal anatomy of Homo Sapiens (or, in Wyoming, Homophobe Not-so-Sapiens.)

Celerity

(43,399 posts)
18. Newton's law of universal gravitation
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:21 PM
Feb 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation

Newton's law of universal gravitation is usually stated as that every particle attracts every other particle in the universe with a force that is proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centres. The publication of the law has become known as the "first great unification", as it marked the unification of the previously described phenomena of gravity on Earth with known astronomical behaviours.

This is a general physical law derived from empirical observations by what Isaac Newton called inductive reasoning.[4] It is a part of classical mechanics and was formulated in Newton's work Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica ( "the Principia" ), first published on 5 July 1687. When Newton presented Book 1 of the unpublished text in April 1686 to the Royal Society, Robert Hooke made a claim that Newton had obtained the inverse square law from him.

In today's language, the law states that every point mass attracts every other point mass by a force acting along the line intersecting the two points. The force is proportional to the product of the two masses, and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

The equation for universal gravitation thus takes the form:



where F is the gravitational force acting between two objects, m1 and m2 are the masses of the objects, r is the distance between the centres of their masses, and G is the gravitational constant.

Silent3

(15,218 posts)
13. Sorry, but you're falling for the same vocabulary error the anti-science crowd is falling for
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 11:18 AM
Feb 2023

There is no progression from theory to fact. A theory, in the scientific sense of the word, is NOT a provisional guess that's waiting around for additional proof to be found.

A theory is an explanatory framework. Einstein's Theory of Gravity is not a guess that there's a thing called gravity, for which more proof is needed before gravity's existence is accepted as a fact.

Gravity's existence is accepted as a fact, and Einstein's Theory of Gravity provides a way to understand how gravity works.

It's the same thing with evolution, which is where anti-science fundies really miss the point. Evolution is treated as a fact by the vast majority of scientists, and the theory of evolution (which itself has evolved from Darwin's original version) is a solidly-established framework for understanding how the fact of evolution can best be understood.

HardPort

(1,474 posts)
4. Evolution is a law. Natural selection is a theory. Gravity is a law. Relativity is a theory.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 10:40 AM
Feb 2023

Give these people leeches when they get sick and take away their smart phones if they hate science so much.

hoosierspud

(148 posts)
5. This ignoramus doesn't know the difference
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 10:46 AM
Feb 2023

Between a hypothesis and a theory. If he is a product of Montana's science education, he's making a great argument for increasing their science education

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,465 posts)
11. He isn't any better when it comes to grammar.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 10:56 AM
Feb 2023
https://www.facebook.com/emrichforsenate/

This questionnaire was sent to me from Montanan's for limited Government and I think it gives a great summery of a lot of the issues I believe in.



Happy Valentine's Day!!
Me and a group of patriots went to the Cascade County DA's Office today and filled a Criminal Complaint For Crimes Against Humanity concerning the Covid-19 Shots.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
14. It's amazing what works based on scientific theories
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 11:18 AM
Feb 2023
https://xkcd.com/808/

Without quantum theory, say goodbye to 5G cell phones that fit in a pocket.

Without relativity theory, say goodbye to automated precision agriculture (which uses GPS).

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
16. These jerks get 23 more votes than the other jerk and think they're brain surgeons.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:12 PM
Feb 2023

I hope local universities yell, scream, and hollar.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
17. They won't say a peep.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:18 PM
Feb 2023

the GQP controls the purse strings in Helena and U of M and MSU are public universities. They'll keep their heads down and hope no one notices that they teach that the Earth is >6,000 years old.

This bill will pass because Repukes are playing thought police nationwide, and trying to one-up each other with Stigginit.

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