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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:18 PM Feb 2023

ABC's Jonathan Karl is just flat out wrong about Republicans & Social Security

ABC's Jonathan Karl said Biden's comment about some Republicans wanting to cut Social Security was "over the top" because "there's nobody seriously talking about sunsetting Social Security in the Republican Party"


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ABC's Jonathan Karl is just flat out wrong about Republicans & Social Security (Original Post) kpete Feb 2023 OP
I guess when they talked about getting rid of Roe v. Wade GreenWave Feb 2023 #1
Mitt sidesteps the facts Beachnutt Feb 2023 #2
None so deaf as they that will not hear.... LakeArenal Feb 2023 #3
and,,,, I for one and many I suspect never believed they would overturn KarenS Feb 2023 #4
Good thing SS and Medicare aren't up to the SCOTUS Taliban... brush Feb 2023 #13
None so deaf as they that will not hear.... LakeArenal Feb 2023 #5
Here is more proof Beachnutt Feb 2023 #6
DU please spread this thread Far and Wide Beachnutt Feb 2023 #7
Karl is careful not to offend.. agingdem Feb 2023 #8
Conservatives have literally been trying to end Social Security and Medicare since their inception.. Caliman73 Feb 2023 #9
And that's the real truth. They don't believe in social programs for poor or working class folks... Wounded Bear Feb 2023 #17
You astonish me, Jonathan gratuitous Feb 2023 #10
And when has the MSM ever given that same courtesy to the Democrats? TheRealNorth Feb 2023 #18
Proof Beachnutt Feb 2023 #11
Proof.. Beachnutt Feb 2023 #12
Habit? Or design, to counter the truth? summer_in_TX Feb 2023 #14
He also backhanded Biden's speech w/"but are Americans still listening to this President?" WTF AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2023 #15
TY.. I think this answers Karl's Stupid question.. Cha Feb 2023 #23
It's over the top to say they don't. n/t Marcus IM Feb 2023 #16
Get a GD Clue Karl! Cha Feb 2023 #19
Have said for years that KARL is a mini-Brit HUME at ABC, UTUSN Feb 2023 #20
Remember Karl's name and denial. What's "over the top" is HIM for Hortensis Feb 2023 #21
Yup TheRealNorth Feb 2023 #25
Kick to Expose Karl Cha Feb 2023 #22
And another Kick.. TY! Cha Feb 2023 #24

KarenS

(4,078 posts)
4. and,,,, I for one and many I suspect never believed they would overturn
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:24 PM
Feb 2023

Roe V Wade,,,, I believed it was too good of talking point and wedge issue for them,,,, so will they damage Social Security and Medicare?? I have to believe they will now.

brush

(53,781 posts)
13. Good thing SS and Medicare aren't up to the SCOTUS Taliban...
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:40 PM
Feb 2023

or we'd be in real trouble. Joe Biden will veto any such attempt by the House magats, if it ever somehow get through the Senate — which is highly doubful in itself with the Dem majority there.

LakeArenal

(28,818 posts)
5. None so deaf as they that will not hear....
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:28 PM
Feb 2023

Rick Scott
Ron Johnson
Mike Lee.

Edit to add: Mitt Romney.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
8. Karl is careful not to offend..
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:34 PM
Feb 2023

he thrives on access...and remember Jonathan Karl wrote a book that didn't high praise orange sewer sludge Trump...he's got a lot of kissing ass to do...

so according to Jonathan Karl..Republicans were never really serious about "disappearing" Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid, never mind crypt-keeper Rick Scott put it in writing and Kev the Eunuch and his loathsome MAGA Neanderthals promise to decimate Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid every time someone shoves a mic in their reptilian faces...but, hey, Biden overreacted, can't take a joke..right Karl???

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
9. Conservatives have literally been trying to end Social Security and Medicare since their inception..
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:35 PM
Feb 2023

They HATED FDR for pushing Social Security through since the 1930's. They HATED LBJ for pushing Medicare through. They tried to drown Medicare in the bath tub as a baby, attaching all kinds of restrictions on pharmaceuticals, vision, dental, and hearing services ALL OF WHICH ARE MEDICAL ISSUES.

People need to stop with the bullshit that we are dealing with two parties that just differ around the edges. There is WAY more diversity of opinion within the Democratic party in terms of policy priorities and spending, than there is between Democrats and Republicans. Republicans want all spending on the "unworthy" to be cut. They want taxes low on the wealthy, major military and police spending, and the rest of us to be forced to work for whatever our betters are willing to pay us.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
17. And that's the real truth. They don't believe in social programs for poor or working class folks...
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 02:26 PM
Feb 2023

only corporate welfare and tax breaks for the wealthy.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. You astonish me, Jonathan
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:36 PM
Feb 2023

How grand it must be to be able to discern, against all evidence, when Republicans are just fucking with people's minds and not putting forth a serious policy change. I'm confident that your estimation of whether the Republicans are serious or just having us all on is iron-clad, no? That is, if it turns out you're 100% wrong, you will personally guarantee everyone's Social Security benefits and access to Medicare? Yes?

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
18. And when has the MSM ever given that same courtesy to the Democrats?
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:47 PM
Feb 2023

A few Democratic Representatives talk about "Defund the Police" or police reform, and immediately the MSM paints that as the Democratic position.

IOKIYAR

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
14. Habit? Or design, to counter the truth?
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:55 PM
Feb 2023

Claiming that no Rs in positions of power wanted to sunset Social Security and Medicare is flat-out untrue. Trusting the Rs to renew a program they've sunsetted is seriously naive. (See the Federal Assault Weapons Ban).

UTUSN

(70,696 posts)
20. Have said for years that KARL is a mini-Brit HUME at ABC,
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 04:15 PM
Feb 2023

HUME was at ABC before Faux and made no bones about being a consigliere for the Bush Family Evil Empire, far beyond being "embedded" in official events but rather being a guest member of the family at family events. He sneered his way at Dems throughout the CLINTON years and finally made it official at the Faux Propaganda Network. Years later, KARL showed up to claim the HUME Chair at ABC, always with that SLANT of "reporter" skepticism about anything Dem. A couple of years ago when he was cashing in on a Drumpf book, he took his tour to places like The View and the late night comedy shows, pandering to Lefty sensibilities against Drumpf.

But that book tour era is over and my Wingnut Radar has resumed pinging on him. Also about Martha RADDATZ, despite her fans here and despite her Wiki page that says she's got Lib credentials for having had a husband from the Ben BRADLEY house and OBAMA being a guest at one of her other weddings. She and ENGEL are war mongerers.






Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Remember Karl's name and denial. What's "over the top" is HIM for
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 04:38 PM
Feb 2023

pretending major elements among the GOP aren't ALWAYS talking about how to eliminate SocSec and the rest for good. The trap Biden set for them with this "sundowning" reminder was to keep them from trying to blackmail the nation into making serious cuts to SocSec.

Those who've been "talking about" getting rid of SocSec since inception rightfully believe they're closer to success than ever, with RW extremism high, a divided-we-fall electorate, *a supermajority of RW extremists on SCOTUS*, and even a RW authoritarian coup possible.

Karl knows that.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
25. Yup
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 12:20 PM
Feb 2023

The Republican game is force us to decide where the money comes from, so then they can go to the next election and rail about how Democrats cut this or that .

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