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Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:12 PM Feb 2023

The elderly cost too much. Let them die.

This is a long-held, basic belief of the Republican Party. And this is what Joe Biden called them out on.

Social Security and Medicare are the two things that help millions of Americans live longer, fuller lives. They are the two things that Republicans want to kill and here's their plan for doing it: Vote against raising the debt ceiling unless Social Security and Medicare are deeply cut (or perhaps done away with). They will never mention out loud that these are two of their demands for voting to raise the debt ceiling. And they believe their plan will result in Democrats taking the blame for cutting Social Security and Medicare.

These terrorists, who are today's Republican Party, really believe that their plan will work. Except that Joe Biden will never agree to this, nor will the Democratic Party.

Joe called them out on this in the SOTU speech, and Republicans applauded for the purpose of keeping up the facade that they actually give a rat's ass about Social Security and Medicare. They're full of shit. And any senior who buys this phony crap is a clueless fool who is voting for Republicans who have no problem with seeing them dead.

Let me say this to every senior in America who depends on Social Security and Medicare. If you're voting for a Republican, you really don't or can't grasp the danger/deadliness of your political preference. Republicans don't care if you die -- and the sooner the better.

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The elderly cost too much. Let them die. (Original Post) Cyrano Feb 2023 OP
I wish he would have called them out by name! The seniors Meadowoak Feb 2023 #1
It's all on Rick Scott's website Ray Bruns Feb 2023 #4
I wish he would have called out Rick Scott, Mike Lee, Lindsey Meadowoak Feb 2023 #6
The Republicans would like to think they can gut SS and Med but political reality says different. dutch777 Feb 2023 #2
"If you're voting for a Republican, you really don't or can't grasp the Jarqui Feb 2023 #3
The maga faithful call them "useless eaters" who should be allowed to die.... getagrip_already Feb 2023 #5
Are they actually using that term? ShazzieB Feb 2023 #14
yes.... getagrip_already Feb 2023 #17
JFC. 😖 ShazzieB Feb 2023 #20
Here's a link to Trump followers actually referring to "useless eaters" Cyrano Feb 2023 #22
Covid Johnny2X2X Feb 2023 #7
They showed a clip of Mike Lee on Morning Joe. redstatebluegirl Feb 2023 #8
Seems his voters are capable of holding two incompatible thoughts in Cyrano Feb 2023 #9
What do you expect NHvet Feb 2023 #21
That's certainly Dan Patrick's sentiment here in Texas. ananda Feb 2023 #10
Even by Texas Republican standards, Dan Patrick is a piece of filth. (nt) Paladin Feb 2023 #15
Which is weird since the Republican Party is mostly elderly people fescuerescue Feb 2023 #11
You would think their own well-being would be stronger than their hatreds. Evidently not. Cyrano Feb 2023 #12
Just another way of killing off the very people who vote for them. Phoenix61 Feb 2023 #13
Yup Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #16
Social Security doesn't cost. We pay for it. WE PAY FOR IT. onecaliberal Feb 2023 #18
Very true! Rebl2 Feb 2023 #24
If it's Rebl2 Feb 2023 #19
Alan Grayson was a Truth-Teller GopherGal Feb 2023 #23
Yep Rebl2 Feb 2023 #28
The people who vote for these assholes know blueinredohio Feb 2023 #25
Counter proposal: The fascists cost too much. Let them die. Nevilledog Feb 2023 #26
Here's what I don't understand... CaptainTruth Feb 2023 #27
Why don't Democrats bring up the VA? gab13by13 Feb 2023 #29
Republicans love the military, but hate disabled vets. After all, caring for them costs money. Cyrano Feb 2023 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Feb 2023 #31

Meadowoak

(5,546 posts)
6. I wish he would have called out Rick Scott, Mike Lee, Lindsey
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:33 PM
Feb 2023

Graham, Ron Johnson and all the rest that said they were open to cuts to SS and medicare, I think the seniors in those districts should know who they voted for.

dutch777

(3,019 posts)
2. The Republicans would like to think they can gut SS and Med but political reality says different.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:16 PM
Feb 2023

And its not just Biden and the Dems saying NO, it will be the voters back home threatening the Repugs political lives if they ding SS and other programs while leaving in place a tax system that favors the rich and corporate interest over the common man.

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
3. "If you're voting for a Republican, you really don't or can't grasp the
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:21 PM
Feb 2023

danger/deadliness of your political preference."

Aside from the most wealthy (maybe), who doesn't that apply to?

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
5. The maga faithful call them "useless eaters" who should be allowed to die....
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:32 PM
Feb 2023

This was during covid. They really didn't care that seniors were being hit hardest early on; they saw it as a feature.

To them, it just got them an inheritance that would otherwise go to a nursing home for care.

That is who they are.

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
14. Are they actually using that term?
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 05:18 PM
Feb 2023

That's what the Nazis called the Jews and other groups they wanted to exterminate, as well as the people with disabilities that they practiced their killing techniques on before the Holocaust got fully underway.

If someone is using that exact language currently, I find it incredibly chilling.

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
20. JFC. 😖
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 05:46 PM
Feb 2023

Thanks for the info. I wonder how many Fox viewers know that is specifically Nazi language. (Rhetorical question; I'm sure not many.)

I know it's been said many times, many ways, but:

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
22. Here's a link to Trump followers actually referring to "useless eaters"
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 05:50 PM
Feb 2023
https://www.salon.com/2020/03/27/trumps-death-cult-finally-says-it-time-to-kill-the-useless-eaters-for-capitalism/

Donald Trump and the Republican Party are now openly willing to sacrifice those Americans they consider to be "useless eaters" — in this case older people, people with pre-existing health conditions and anyone else who may die from the coronavirus pandemic.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
7. Covid
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:38 PM
Feb 2023

This even bled into Covid too. Republicans knew that Covid was killing mostly the elderly, it actually got them excited because of that. Yes, they are this sick.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
8. They showed a clip of Mike Lee on Morning Joe.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:58 PM
Feb 2023

He said killing Social Security and Medicare-Medicaid was his only reason for running. Then yesterday he said Biden was not telling the truth when he accused them of that.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
11. Which is weird since the Republican Party is mostly elderly people
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 04:11 PM
Feb 2023

You would think they would look in the mirror and realize that they are targeting themselves.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
12. You would think their own well-being would be stronger than their hatreds. Evidently not.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 04:27 PM
Feb 2023

The well-oiled, grotesque Republican propaganda machine churns out hatred of the "THEMS" 24/7.

I wonder what philosophers, and the great minds of history, would make of self-interest vs hate, in terms of good vs evil?

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
13. Just another way of killing off the very people who vote for them.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 05:13 PM
Feb 2023

Seems an odd political strategy. I can’t imagine all those folks living in The Villages would be too happy about losing either of those programs.

Rebl2

(13,510 posts)
24. Very true!
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 05:55 PM
Feb 2023

The government actually owes us. The republicans borrowed so much from SS over the years while they were in majority, and they supposedly “put in” IOU’s, actually stealing it from those that paid into it. Time for them to get rid of the tax cuts for the wealthy and put that money back into social security. I also know it will never happen.

Rebl2

(13,510 posts)
19. If it's
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 05:41 PM
Feb 2023

true they want to be rid of the elderly, why the hell are so many sitting in the senate and some in the house. Oh wait a minute, they are rich. I guess it’s just the elderly, including many of their own constituents that support them by voting for them, they want gone. The rich ones can stay.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
25. The people who vote for these assholes know
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 05:55 PM
Feb 2023

they want to get rid of as and Medicare but they're stupid enough to think it won't happen to them because they vote republican.

CaptainTruth

(6,592 posts)
27. Here's what I don't understand...
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 06:00 PM
Feb 2023

Every time I see voting statistics by age, out of all age groups, Republicans get the most support from the 65+ group.

The older retired voters are the ones who support Republicans the most, so why do Republicans constantly screw over the 65+ group? What do they think they're gaining?

And yes, I understand that Republicans are often incapable of seeing the 100% predictable results of their actions. Is that all it is???

gab13by13

(21,348 posts)
29. Why don't Democrats bring up the VA?
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 06:05 PM
Feb 2023

I'm sure that Magats want to abolish that too.

My 90 year old golfing buddy has been getting VA care all winter. Last spring he had pneumonia and he is still trying to shake it.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
30. Republicans love the military, but hate disabled vets. After all, caring for them costs money.
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 06:36 PM
Feb 2023

Republican "patriotism" is bullshit that they feed to those ignorant enough to buy it. There is no end to the hypocrisy of the Republican Party. Whether it's vets, the elderly, disaster victims, or any others in need or who have suffered misfortune, Republicans just don't care. They are the party of the haves and the very well to do. But they wear American flag lapel pins as cheap tokens to "prove" their "patriotism."

Their campaigns are bought and paid for by the haves and the very-well to do. Why would they care about anyone else? After all, that requires sympathy, empathy and a conscience.

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