ABC NEWS BREAKING: Mike Pence subpoenaed by special counsel overseeing Trump probes: Sources

[BumRushDaShow]

Mike Pence subpoenaed by special counsel overseeing Trump probes: Sources

By Katherine Faulders and John Santucci
February 9, 2023, 6:01 PM

Former Vice President Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel overseeing probes into former President Donald Trump, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

It's not immediately clear what information the subpoena from special counsel Jack Smith is seeking, but it follows months of negotiations between federal prosecutors and Pence's legal team.

Smith was appointed in November to oversee the investigation into Trump's potential mishandling of classified documents after leaving the presidency and obstructing the government's efforts to retrieve them -- as well as a separate probe into efforts by Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

A spokesperson for Pence did not respond to a request for comment by ABC News. The special counsel's office also declined to comment. A spokesperson for Trump also did not immediately respond.

Still developing. More: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mike-pence-subpoenaed-special-counsel-overseeing-trump-probes/story?id=97018886

[Freethinker65]

1. Subpoenaed to appear before or after declaring his run for the Presidency?

[ancianita]

10. Pence hasn't declared. But even if he had, it wouldn't matter.

[Kingofalldems]

2. The Trump is Invincible crowd now scrambling to move the goalposts.

Kick and Rec.

[Silent3]

15. I have no goalposts to move, and I don't think Trump is "invincible".

I'm simply pissed at the slow and timid pace of going after Trump -- something that even (finally!) real indictments, if they ever come, won't erase.

I'm always happy to see signs of possible progress like this, but they don't make me hold my breath waiting for real-world consequences to befall Trump and his cronies.

[Kingofalldems]

19. Wasn't speaking of you.

[Silent3]

25. Perhaps not, but I suspect a lot of the DoJ cynics like me feel the same way

Maybe a few are absolutely sure Trump is untouchable, but I'd guess most people, even if they're literal words seem to say they think Trump will skate, are merely expressing great exasperation by overstating the case.

[ShazzieB]

50. The people who say they believe Trump is untouchable sound to me like they mean it 100%.

And if they don't mean it, I wish they would find a different way to express their exasperation. Yes, they're frustrated; we all are, to one extent or another. The difference, as I see it, is that some of us have not given up and some have. Which is fine; we all have the right to feel how we feel.

The problem comes in when people who have given up hope call those who haven't given up Pollyannas, members of the Merrick Garland fan club, and the like. I don't care how frustrated or exasperated anyone is; insults like that make things worse for everyone. Othering those who disagree with you is unfair and creates a feeling that we are on opposing sides, when actually we are all on the same side, the side that wants Trump to be held to account for at least some of his crimes. We can disagree on the likelihood of that happening, how it may happen, etc., but surely we can do that while agreeing to disagree.

I'm not completely innocent myself; in the past, I have referred to those who are absolutely convinced that Trump will never pay for anything, ever, as Chicken Littles or naysayers (although I honestly see naysayers as more a statement of fact than an actual insult). I realize that I should not insult other people if I don't want them to insult me, and I shall do my best to keep that in mind going forward.

[Joinfortmill]

59. I agree. Unless you have inside info from DOJ or Sp. Counsel, you know nothing but the news items.

[slightlv]

64. Yes, great exasperation - frustration enough to turn your hair grey.

But I'm also anxious they worried about the uproar on the Right if they did indict. That's what hits me in the pit of my stomach... that they'd allow politics to enter into this.

They have no idea the uproar if *rump skates free or on a piddling charge. They figure we'll be good and not burn the town down like the Magats no doubt would. That's what keeps me up at night sometimes. We, the "normal Americans" are "flexible" and "understanding" and "nice." We wouldn't behave like the sociopathic Magats. I think this has a thumb on the scale against us. At some point, Law as Law has got to rule the day, or we have no law in this country except against us, the patriotic Americans.

[dem4decades]

3. I hope it's not a female prosecutor, I want Pence to show up. Mother won't let him with a woman.

[Jarqui]

7. He might claim spousal privilege ... nt

[MOMFUDSKI]

11. OMG

I SO forgot about that fact. lol

[fightforfreedom]

4. Boom!

But it's too late, they are running out of time, it's too close to the election, they will all be pardoned after the election.

[spanone]

5. Hey Mike, it's Jack Smith calling!

[MOMFUDSKI]

14. I heard

Jack calls him MIKEY.

[spanone]

16. 👍🏼

[Beetwasher.]

6. Giddyup!

Nothings really happening though. /sarcasm

[malaise]

8. On Ari now

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[ancianita]

13. A long discussion with Neal Katyal.

[Cha]

9. TY BRDS! I hope Pence

has to go and respond under oath.

Not sure how that works?

[mobeau69]

17. That's what the subpoena is for.

[Cha]

21. TY.. so he has to answer questions

under oath? And, answer truthfully so he doesn't commit perjury?

If so I'm betting dt is sweating profusely

[mobeau69]

28. Yep, Pence won't risk jail for the guy who wanted him hung by the neck.

[Cha]

43. This shit cannot even

be made up!

[slightlv]

65. Ah... but will he live up to those

Ten Commandments he pushes down everyone else's throat? Will he turn his back on his Gawd, and lie?

[mobeau69]

12. Wonder who the multiple sources are.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Whoever it was just told CNN

Getting a breaking news banner from them and they tweeted out a link to their start of an article.

Link to tweet

CNN
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JUST IN: Former Vice President Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating Donald Trump and his role in January 6, 2021, according to a source familiar with the matter
cnn.com
Pence subpoenaed by special counsel investigating Trump | CNN Politics
Former Vice President Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating Donald Trump and his role in January 6, 2021, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.
6:36 PM · Feb 9, 2023

Pence subpoenaed by special counsel investigating Trump

By Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Published 6:30 PM EST, Thu February 9, 2023

CNN —

Former Vice President Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating Donald Trump and his role in January 6, 2021, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.

This story is breaking and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/09/politics/pence-subpoena-special-counsel-january-6/index.html

[Cha]

22. TY for the tweet!

[BumRushDaShow]

26. YW

Thursday dump!

[mobeau69]

24. Saw that and my first thought was that CNN's source (singular) was ABC. LOL

ABC said sources but CNN said source.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. The NYT just did their own breaking banner and tweet

Link to tweet

The New York Times
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Breaking News: Mike Pence is said to have been subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
Former Vice President Mike Pence was at the center of former President Donald J. Trump’s last gasp to hold on to power after his election loss.
nytimes.com
Pence Gets Subpoena From Special Counsel in Jan. 6 Investigation
The move by Jack Smith, the special counsel, is one of the most aggressive in his investigation of Donald Trump’s efforts to stay in power and is likely to lead to a battle over executive privilege.
6:53 PM · Feb 9, 2023

They seem to have more "specific" info.

[mobeau69]

30. OMG NYT! "...said to have been...". LOL!

[BumRushDaShow]

32. And NBC News

Link to tweet

NBC News
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BREAKING: Former VP Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel conducting investigations into former President Trump, a source familiar with the matter says.
nbcnews.com
Pence subpoenaed by special counsel leading Trump investigations
It is unclear what information Special Counsel Jack Smith is seeking from Pence.
6:56 PM · Feb 9, 2023

(you can kind of tell who is referencing "other" news sources and who may have gotten something from their own source )

[mobeau69]

37. Looks like ABC got the scoop. 🤓

[BumRushDaShow]

39. They were the first with a banner to pop up on my iPad!

(still waiting for AP)

[mcar]

20. Well, well, well

Mikie best practice that sanctimonious look for his testimony.

[electric_blue68]

66. Baaahahahahaaaaaaaa. And besides full face, which is better 3/4 facing right, or 3/4 facing left? 🤔

[cilla4progress]

23. Let's

GOOOOOOOO!

[Trailrider1951]

29. Wonder if he'll bring along his pet fly for distraction

[TurboDem]

38. That literally made me laugh out loud!

[markodochartaigh]

73. I heard that George Anthony DeVolder Santos trained

that fly to work in his flea circus. There was a documentary about George's circus, "A Dud's Life".

[fightforfreedom]

31. Months of negotiations between prosecutors and Pences legal team.

This is an example of why are legal system takes time. Investigations take time. We have due process. It's frustrating but that's how it works here in America. Plus the fact this is the largest , most sensitive investigation in our history.

[bluestarone]

33. Great to hear this!

Now McCarthy's should be soon to come!

[Initech]

34. Who needs butter? I got plenty!

[LudwigPastorius]

35. So many questions....

Will Pence respond promptly?

Will The Fly plead the 5th, or offer to turn state's evidence?

[Takket]

36. says they have been "negotiating" with prosecutors.....

so does that mean this isn't going to touch off another year of claiming privileged and waiting forever for the claims to go through the courts?

[mobeau69]

40. It looks like it will. Hopefully the courts will fast track claims.

[fightforfreedom]

41. i just heard a prosecutor talking about this.

Pence is running for president. He does not want to do anything that hurts him politically. He made have requested to be subpoenaed for politically cover. He could then say I had no choice but to appear. If he doesn't try to delay things, which he can. That could be proof he requested to be subpoenaed. What other agreements were negotiated is anybody's guess. It looks like they did come to an agreement.

[Takket]

44. that's good news. let's get the show on the road

[lindysalsagal]

45. I like your logic on that. Hope he chooses to comply just to get rid of the orangutan quicker.

But the gqp all believe they can siphon off the maga voters. I doubt it. no one likes pense.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. "looks like they did come to an agreement"

If he came in "voluntarily" (which is how they usually begin before escalating the requests) then he wouldn't have needed to be subpoenaed. The subpoena is usually the end of the "negotiation" process.

A subpoena could give him cover, which I suppose it would show a "requirement" to appear, but then that presupposes that "negotiations broke down" and this was the only way to achieve testimony.

[fightforfreedom]

49. Could be, it's anyones guess right now.

[Botany]

42. I hope Pence remembers that Trump tried to have him killed because he would not brak the law.

Pence will never be President ever but he can be a hero if he speaks the truth.

[panader0]

47. Great post BRDS. Recommended.

[republianmushroom]

48. 24 months and counting

[Scrivener7]

61. But under Jack Smith, we are seeing a paper trail we never saw when

Garland was running it.

We were told we never saw any proof of investigation of higher level witnesses and participants from Garland because the DOJ doesn't leak.

I'm very happy that Jack Smith, apparently, leaks like a sieve. Because we are seeing lots of evidence that an investigation is taking place. Evidence we never saw before.

[republianmushroom]

68. at the end of the day Jack answers to Garland.

[Scrivener7]

69. Yes. But he is doing an investigation, and that has not happened up to now.

I don't know what will come of it, but it disproves the whole "we're not seeing any evidence of an investigation because the DOJ doesn't leak" line of nonsense. We didn't see any evidence because there was no evidence to see.

Now there is evidence to see. Now there actually is an investigation.

[republianmushroom]

72. hope you are correct.

[ShazzieB]

51. This is excellent news.

That is all. 😄😁😊

[MontanaMama]

52. Mother is probably

having a mad about this.

[BumRushDaShow]

53. WaPo finally got around to it

Link to tweet

The Washington Post
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Breaking news: Former Vice President Mike Pence received a subpoena from the special counsel investigating key aspects of the sprawling probe into the Jan. 6, 2021 U.S. Capitol attack and former president Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the election.
washingtonpost.com
Pence receives subpoena from prosecutors examining Trump’s role in Jan. 6
It is unclear whether Pence will comply with the subpoena, which pits a potential 2024 rival against the foirmer president.
8:05 PM · Feb 9, 2023

[Blue Owl]

54. Hey Mike, how's it hanging?

[SheltieLover]

55. ...

[Uncle Joe]

56. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread BumRushDaShow

[Joinfortmill]

57. TickTock Trump, you corrupt, treasonous, pig of a man.

[ZonkerHarris]

58. Oh Mother!

[Joinfortmill]

60. I think Trump just pooped his pants.

[Justice matters.]

62. Nah. Maybe a rush to Lie Social to insult Jack Smith and Pence of some childish name-calling of his.

He thinks he will skate and he probably will...

[BumRushDaShow]

63. AP did finally get around to it (buried in the sports and entertainment tweets)

Link to tweet

The Associated Press
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Former VP Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel overseeing investigations into efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election results, a source tells @AP.
apnews.com
AP source: Pence subpoenaed by special counsel probing Trump
Former Vice President Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel overseeing investigations into efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020...
7:54 PM · Feb 9, 2023

[Lucinda]

67. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[markodochartaigh]

70. Speaking of Pence

What ever happened to the gallows and noose? I think that they should be either in the Smithsonian or, preferably, a purpose built museum on the coup attempt.

[kentuck]

71. It's time for Pence...

to sh*t or get off the pot.

He has been obstructing this investigation for over 2 years.

[bucolic_frolic]

74. So Mikey's trying to recall who he told what, and what they already know

to see how much he can deny and CYA for as many Republicans as possible?

His political future is on the line and significant minorities of voting segments are not going to believe him either way.