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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:21 AM Feb 2023

The NRA Has Lost More Than a Million Members

The Reload: Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre told attendees at the gun-rights group’s most recent board meeting that the organization is down to 4.3 million members… That represents a downturn of more than a million members since allegations of financial impropriety were leveled against LaPierre and other members of NRA leadership in 2019.

The NRA is now smaller than it has been since 2012 when internal documents show the group had 4 million members.

https://thereload.com/nra-has-lost-over-a-million-members-since-corruption-allegations-surfaced/
https://politicalwire.com/2023/02/10/the-nra-has-lost-more-than-a-million-members/
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The NRA Has Lost More Than a Million Members (Original Post) kpete Feb 2023 OP
Good. But the damage is done. They did a good job for the PutinGOP. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #1
Agreed............... Lovie777 Feb 2023 #2
Yep. Make Americans loathe each other and give them guns. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #4
+1 2naSalit Feb 2023 #19
You Hit The Nail On It's Head SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #21
Guns are sacred, people are worthless. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #26
Very well said PatSeg Feb 2023 #33
So true and well said judesedit Feb 2023 #41
+2 appalachiablue Feb 2023 #43
From the Shining City on the Hill LastDemocratInSC Feb 2023 #7
Exactly. And they are making little assault rifles for children now. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #9
Wrong. the damage continues. 3Hotdogs Feb 2023 #16
Yes but the point is that the NRA is no longer needed. It did its job perfectly. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #18
Summed up by "Joe, The Plumber." (Remember that asshole and his 15 minutes of fame?) 3Hotdogs Feb 2023 #34
Exactly. Yes I remember him. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #35
You mean Mad_Machine76 Feb 2023 #39
Not to mention many gunner shifted to other gun groups Amishman Feb 2023 #56
+1 Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #57
They stopped being a "members" organization long ago Bristlecone Feb 2023 #3
It really doesn't matter, the NRA gets its power from the vast fortune the gun makers give them RAB910 Feb 2023 #5
Gun makers and the Russians! FSogol Feb 2023 #8
Oops, forgot about Putin RAB910 Feb 2023 #14
That's right. With just 4 million members they wouldn't have the influence that they do. Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #10
Now it has become an industry owned shill for the sale of more guns and the enrichment of its leader keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #22
Very true RAB910 Feb 2023 #47
Not to mention Putin and his oligarchs. KPN Feb 2023 #29
That is confusing Tickle Feb 2023 #6
Mid 40% of gun owners of the world are from........ Lovie777 Feb 2023 #11
The percentage of Americans owning a gun has steadily declined over time. Joe Cool Feb 2023 #13
Then there are the whackadoodles who own an entire basement-full of guns. Crowman2009 Feb 2023 #36
The NRA has always inflated its true membership numbers Joe Cool Feb 2023 #12
And, DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #51
They need to lose their influence over politicians IronLionZion Feb 2023 #15
Several stats could put this in better context: TheRickles Feb 2023 #17
That's 25% less power than what they had during the Obama administration fescuerescue Feb 2023 #20
LaPierre stated membership at 4 million 3 years ago. JohnnyRingo Feb 2023 #23
The NRA's power, besides money DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2023 #40
Good kevink077 Feb 2023 #24
NRA dues and solicitations keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #25
Repeal the 2nd Amendment. The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #27
That Is Sooooooo Unrealistic SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #31
I am not saying it will happen. The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #37
If not repeal, reinterpret the Second Amendment gratuitous Feb 2023 #46
Decrease in membership is indeed about financial impropriety--not about the guns MissMillie Feb 2023 #28
Bingo. Straw Man Feb 2023 #59
How many Russians... Historic NY Feb 2023 #30
I have family who hunt and they've been DONE with the NRA for a while underpants Feb 2023 #32
So wayne was accused of financial misdealings, huge numbers, and he is STILL niyad Feb 2023 #38
Pretty amazing isn't it? That guy's "sell by" date expired 20 years ago... thenelm1 Feb 2023 #54
Sure would be nice enough to see them shrink down to where they can be drowned in a bathtub Scalded Nun Feb 2023 #42
No idea, but my hunch might be more about the mass shootings than the malfeasance lindysalsagal Feb 2023 #44
Yet, the NRA still get what it wants...Not because of the number of members, but because of how much Chainfire Feb 2023 #45
The NRA is an Anti-American Organization of seditious traitors. . . Edwcraig Feb 2023 #48
The article blames 'financial impropriety'. Aristus Feb 2023 #49
The cold rain of pain falls mainly on Wayne Blue Owl Feb 2023 #50
I think they lost a lot of left leaning indies and Democrats due to Trump. SYFROYH Feb 2023 #52
Hopefully the downward spiral continues Emile Feb 2023 #53
they represent paranoid gun humping ASSHOLES Skittles Feb 2023 #55
thoughts and prayers but... republianmushroom Feb 2023 #58

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
1. Good. But the damage is done. They did a good job for the PutinGOP.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:27 AM
Feb 2023

Putin and the GOP funded the NRA to make the US a violent, murderous country.

Lovie777

(22,985 posts)
2. Agreed...............
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:30 AM
Feb 2023

and extremely hateful sociopaths that want to destroy Democracy.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
4. Yep. Make Americans loathe each other and give them guns.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:35 AM
Feb 2023

And tell them democracy is bad. And overthrowing the gov't is good.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
26. Guns are sacred, people are worthless.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:23 AM
Feb 2023

The US is a country which knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing.

LastDemocratInSC

(4,242 posts)
7. From the Shining City on the Hill
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:41 AM
Feb 2023

to the equivalent of Somalia or Yemen where the people walk the streets with weapons of war slung over their shoulders and strapped to their hips.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
9. Exactly. And they are making little assault rifles for children now.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:43 AM
Feb 2023

So America arms its children.

All of this has been perfectly planned.

This is not accidental.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
18. Yes but the point is that the NRA is no longer needed. It did its job perfectly.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:01 AM
Feb 2023

It turned the US into a murdering, violent gun culture.

Where guns are sacred and people are worthless.


3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
34. Summed up by "Joe, The Plumber." (Remember that asshole and his 15 minutes of fame?)
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:50 AM
Feb 2023

"Your dead kids don't trump my Constitutional rights."

That quote sums up the attitude of most of those assholes. That is what we are up against.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
35. Exactly. Yes I remember him.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:51 AM
Feb 2023

Dead American children mean nothing to them.
Yes that is what we are up against.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
56. Not to mention many gunner shifted to other gun groups
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:29 PM
Feb 2023

Ones that are even more extreme.

Look at the lawsuits attacking gun safety laws over the past few years, it's not the NRA funding or leading most of them.

Bristlecone

(11,111 posts)
3. They stopped being a "members" organization long ago
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:35 AM
Feb 2023

It’s instead turned into a perverse, fetish organization that thrives by back channeling dark money from gun manufacturers and foreign adversaries into our political system.

The extravagance in spending can only be reconciled with the fore knowledge and impunity of corruption; pure hubris in knowing their funds are unlimited and effectively untraceable, and with likely more than 1/2 of the elected government in their pocket.

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
5. It really doesn't matter, the NRA gets its power from the vast fortune the gun makers give them
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:36 AM
Feb 2023

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
10. That's right. With just 4 million members they wouldn't have the influence that they do.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:43 AM
Feb 2023

But the big money behind them, gun manufacturers and probably some conservative groups that like to use guns as a wedge issue, keep them propped up. And keep Wayne in his expensive suites.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
22. Now it has become an industry owned shill for the sale of more guns and the enrichment of its leader
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:18 AM
Feb 2023

To the gun industry, dead children are merely collateral damage/acceptable losses for gun industry profits and political donations.

The NRA used to be for sportsmen, hunters and gun safety.

Now it has become an industry owned shill for the sale of more guns and the enrichment of its leaders.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
6. That is confusing
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:39 AM
Feb 2023

More people own guns than ever. I guess you can own a gun but not be a member ?

I don't' have a gun I always thought the two went hand in hand

Lovie777

(22,985 posts)
11. Mid 40% of gun owners of the world are from........
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:44 AM
Feb 2023

The United States of America, and to my understanding most are not a member of the NRA.

Joe Cool

(1,093 posts)
13. The percentage of Americans owning a gun has steadily declined over time.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:48 AM
Feb 2023

There might be more Americans than ever who own a gun due to the population being bigger than ever but the percentage of Americans who own a gun has been dropping over time. So, there are now more Americans who have never owned a gun than at any point in history as another way of looking at things.

Crowman2009

(3,524 posts)
36. Then there are the whackadoodles who own an entire basement-full of guns.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:55 AM
Feb 2023

They need to be under observation since they are most likely to be potential mass shooters.

Joe Cool

(1,093 posts)
12. The NRA has always inflated its true membership numbers
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:46 AM
Feb 2023

There might be 4.3 million members on paper, which is less than 1.5% of the American population, but there aren't 4.3 million members in reality. At guns shows, entry fees in the past have often included a lifetime membership to the NRA. Those who attend the gun show automatically become NRA members but never pay another cent to the organization. There are other examples of how the NRA inflates its actual membership numbers. The percentage of true NRA members is probably a lot less than 1% of the American populace. Finally, once an NRA members, always an NRA member. The NRA never deletes anyone who joins at any point from its rolls.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
51. And,
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 08:19 PM
Feb 2023

Don't forget the huge number of members of Russia's NRA...........

Russia's NRA members are composed of a few Russian Oligarchs who simply sent hundreds and hundreds of millions to the NRA "headquarters" to distribute among Republican candidates here in America......

It was a phony way of laundering ton's of Putin's oligarchs money into our political system....ie the Republican Party....

IronLionZion

(51,269 posts)
15. They need to lose their influence over politicians
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:50 AM
Feb 2023

a small group of extremists are blocking any meaningful legislation to address mass shootings.

TheRickles

(3,386 posts)
17. Several stats could put this in better context:
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:54 AM
Feb 2023

What % of Americans own guns - now and, say, 30 years ago?
What % of American guns owners are NRA members - now and, say, 30 years ago?

fescuerescue

(4,475 posts)
20. That's 25% less power than what they had during the Obama administration
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:15 AM
Feb 2023

Where they had 5 million members.

At this rate, they will be down to zero by the mid 2030s.

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
23. LaPierre stated membership at 4 million 3 years ago.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:19 AM
Feb 2023

I remember it distinctly, and the media questioned how 4 million voters could be such a powerful lobby as to hold sway over the entire US legislative body.
Presented with this conundrum, LaPierre amended his statement to 4 million families.

Still, the AARP has almost 20 million members, so why do we have to pay so much for our meds? Shouldn't we have discounts to everything from movies to groceries?

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,504 posts)
40. The NRA's power, besides money
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 11:24 AM
Feb 2023

Is that they can motivate a large number of single issue voters. They can motivate voters who would otherwise sit out of an election. A large majority of gun rights supporters are single minded in their voting. You could present them a candidate who would support 99% of everything they love, but if they are antigun, then they will instantly support the the progun candidate despite being against everything else they like. AARP and other groups might have bigger membership rolls, but their members are not focused on one single issue that essentially controls their vote. Also, even though their membership is shrinking, the number of people who will listen to what they say and follow their voting recommendations haven't. The NRA's reach is beyond its membership. They may have only 4 million members, but 40 million gun owners will still listen to them and their voting recommendations.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
25. NRA dues and solicitations
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:23 AM
Feb 2023

NRA dues and solicitations
comment from a blog (DU I think)

I had a coworker who was a big time gun owner who kept a gun in every room in the house just in case someone broke in (lots of problems with that idea, may be worth a blog article someday, but that’s what he did). He even went so far as to start buying more guns for each room after a school shooting, like home invasion and mass shooting are correlated somehow. He had let his NRA membership lapse and refused to renew it because he got tired of nonstop requests for donations. To him all the membership did was give the NRA to badger him for more money with phone calls, and direct mailings. If the
organization is as strapped for cash as it appears, those solicitations may have gone way over the top and people are simply tired of being badgered for money and are choosing to let their membership to lapse.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
31. That Is Sooooooo Unrealistic
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:35 AM
Feb 2023

We can’t even ban assault weapons.

Do you have any idea what it would take to repeal an amendment?

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
37. I am not saying it will happen.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:56 AM
Feb 2023

I believe the political act of going for it would bring people to the table.
That said a lot of people insisted we would never change Roe! I know I did.
Many people said prohibition would never happen.
Many people said prohibition would never be repealed.
Women only got the right to vote in 1920. That was a long hard battle that many said would never happen. 1920 was the same year prohibition passed.
We did ban assault weapons! So we can do that.
If the magically shrinking republican tent continues to shrink where will we be in 10 years? I see no sign the right is going to change their tune and I see no migration to their point of view. Demographics are not the friend of repukes.

REPEAL THE 2nd We need to think big. The NRA membership is down 1 million members to just over 4.3 million total.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
46. If not repeal, reinterpret the Second Amendment
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 12:17 PM
Feb 2023

We just had an object lesson in how "settled law" can be unsettled by shameless demagogues, as the Supreme Court turned women into second class citizens, unable to make their own health care decisions.

Will it take 50 years to bring the "well-regulated" primacy of the Second Amendment language to the fore? Maybe, but I think it will take less time than that.

MissMillie

(39,652 posts)
28. Decrease in membership is indeed about financial impropriety--not about the guns
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:25 AM
Feb 2023

There's still plenty of gun lovers, they're just not willing to give LaPierre their money. (And they shouldn't, obviously.)

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
59. Bingo.
Sat Feb 11, 2023, 12:22 AM
Feb 2023
Decrease in membership is indeed about financial impropriety--not about the guns

There's still plenty of gun lovers, they're just not willing to give LaPierre their money. (And they shouldn't, obviously.)

There is a growing consensus that Wayne Lapierre and others in the NRA leadership are more interested in feathering their own nests than in defending the rights of gun owners. Some of those leaving the NRA are moving over to groups than are even more hardline and politically active, like GOA (Gun Owners of America).

underpants

(196,498 posts)
32. I have family who hunt and they've been DONE with the NRA for a while
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 10:38 AM
Feb 2023

I think it was around Columbine when they said the NRA has just gone too far.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
38. So wayne was accused of financial misdealings, huge numbers, and he is STILL
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 11:02 AM
Feb 2023

head of putin's little group of loyalists?

Scalded Nun

(1,691 posts)
42. Sure would be nice enough to see them shrink down to where they can be drowned in a bathtub
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 11:30 AM
Feb 2023

lindysalsagal

(22,915 posts)
44. No idea, but my hunch might be more about the mass shootings than the malfeasance
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 12:00 PM
Feb 2023

But I have no way of verifying that.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
45. Yet, the NRA still get what it wants...Not because of the number of members, but because of how much
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 12:16 PM
Feb 2023

money is made on guns, ammo and accessories. Florida is about to become the 26th state to have "Constitutional Carry." There just aren't enough guns on the streets yet. In the near future the stories will be headed, "Armed Florida Man..."

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/constitutional-carry-gun-bill-moves-in-florida-legislature/

Edwcraig

(332 posts)
48. The NRA is an Anti-American Organization of seditious traitors. . .
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:38 PM
Feb 2023

advocating that a well armed anti-democratic minority that disagrees with the will of the majority has the right to use the force of arms against any and all legal representatives of that majority to disobey any laws they disagree with.

PS. They are funded by anti-democratic entities such as Russia.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
49. The article blames 'financial impropriety'.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:40 PM
Feb 2023

I would have thought they had just all shot each other.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
52. I think they lost a lot of left leaning indies and Democrats due to Trump.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 08:30 PM
Feb 2023


I never heard much grumbling about the excessive spending.

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
58. thoughts and prayers but...
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 09:44 PM
Feb 2023

When you lose another 4 million the world will be a better place.

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