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global1

(26,507 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:14 PM Feb 2023

Have You Pondered How Your Life Might Have Been Different If We Didn't Have A Covid Pandemic?.....

I was thinking about this yesterday.

If the Covid pandemic never happened what would I have done during the time we were in lockdown and protecting ourselves?

Would I have traveled more? Would I have spent more time with my grandkids? Would I have gone to more sporting events; concerts or movie theaters? Would I have spent more money? Would I have gained weight? How much more time would I have spent with my friends? How might my retirement been better during those times? How would my life have changed if there was no Covid?

Would our lives been better or worse?

You could also extend these questions - politically. Would Tr**p be more successful or more sinister? What would the now known 'anti-vaxxers' have been protesting about? What additional crimes would Tr**p have committed? Would there have been and insurrection?

There are hundreds of questions and 'what ifs' to ponder - of how life would have been different if there was no Covid pandemic.

I'm really curious as to others answers about this?

Comment: We really lost some precious time in our lives. That time - gone forever.
In some respects - I really resent that this happened at a time when I should have been enjoying my retirement. Instead I lived in fear and in some ways that fear has stayed with me as it looks like - people are ignoring some of the cautions we should still take to protect ourselves and loved ones.

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Have You Pondered How Your Life Might Have Been Different If We Didn't Have A Covid Pandemic?..... (Original Post) global1 Feb 2023 OP
I had very strained relationships with a few people I know that were anti-vax. panader0 Feb 2023 #1
Same here CountAllVotes Feb 2023 #6
My husband died last year CountAllVotes Feb 2023 #2
I'm sorry you lost your husband Chautauquas Feb 2023 #10
Thank you CountAllVotes Feb 2023 #21
Mine died in 2020 before they even knew what it was and he died alone because every Samrob Feb 2023 #16
Same here CountAllVotes Feb 2023 #22
What an interesting thing to ponder... NewHendoLib Feb 2023 #3
Wed been traveling snowybirdie Feb 2023 #4
Wed been traveling snowybirdie Feb 2023 #5
It has affected my family in so many ways. StarryNite Feb 2023 #7
At salon I wore my mask today. Only damn one. boston bean Feb 2023 #9
My biggest concern was my grandkids Chautauquas Feb 2023 #8
I don't think my kids have recovered Johonny Feb 2023 #24
yes, i think about this too orleans Feb 2023 #11
If there was no COVID, Trump might have won the presidency. Earth-shine Feb 2023 #12
Well, there's a truly horrible thought peggysue2 Feb 2023 #17
Thank you. raccoon Feb 2023 #37
Any time missed etc and anything else is nothing , absolutely nothing Meowmee Feb 2023 #13
Actually I was able to "make the best of it" GusBob Feb 2023 #14
It was certainly a reset. pandr32 Feb 2023 #15
We'd probably be enduring a second Trump administration right now Silent3 Feb 2023 #18
I switched jobs to full time work at home meadowlander Feb 2023 #19
I travelled all I want when I was working. 3,000 miles every Emile Feb 2023 #20
Yes, and I have also pondered recently how my life would be different maxrandb Feb 2023 #23
I'm a creature of the internet and the wilderness so it wasn't a severe impact on myself. hunter Feb 2023 #25
I think what would have happened with Hillary in the White House . Texaswitchy Feb 2023 #26
I would rather not, because it's likely Trump would have been re-elected... SKKY Feb 2023 #27
The virus sort of saved us in a odd way. Texaswitchy Feb 2023 #29
I mean, yea, silver linings and all... SKKY Feb 2023 #36
Didn't see your comment at first and posted the same below. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #33
The virus made a lot of people get out to vote for President Biden. Texaswitchy Feb 2023 #35
My life would be exactly the same. friend of a friend Feb 2023 #28
The pandemic actually had a positive impact on my life. hack89 Feb 2023 #30
The thing that truly terrifies me is that Trump likely would have been re-elected if not for Covid. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #31
I don't feel I lost anything during the pandemic PJMcK Feb 2023 #32
My life didn't change all that much. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #34
My life has been destroyed from the pandemic. I've lost 2 family members, including my beloved dad liberal_mama Feb 2023 #38

panader0

(25,816 posts)
1. I had very strained relationships with a few people I know that were anti-vax.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:25 PM
Feb 2023

Two contracted the virus but pulled through okay I guess. My twice weekly music sessions ended for
over a year and have just sort of started up again. I don't go out much so that aspect of covid didn't
affect me very much. I think the virus and it's denial by TFG hurt him quite a bit politically. But I still
don't think he would have been reelected.
My heart goes out to those who suffered greatly from the pandemic. I guess it'll never really disappear.
I will continue to get boosted as recommended.

CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
6. Same here
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:48 PM
Feb 2023

I lost a few of them and I have never heard from them again, one of them being a very old foster relative.

It was all Make American Great Again w/this person.

Uh huh ...

It seemed to be a mutual feeling that never changed thanks to tRUMP!



CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
2. My husband died last year
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:28 PM
Feb 2023

I had been taking him to doctors and slipping them notes about his mental state. It was ignored.

It was all about doing the patriotic thing and get vaccinated and be a good American.

We listened to them.

Would he still be here today had they not ignored him/me?

I suppose I'll never know but blot clots in the brain make me wonder I must admit.

CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
21. Thank you
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:34 PM
Feb 2023

It has been tough going since he died.

I'm at a loss I'll have to admit.

God? Who/what the hell is that?

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
16. Mine died in 2020 before they even knew what it was and he died alone because every
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:15 PM
Feb 2023

hospital and rehab was closed to the public. I will never really get over it.

CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
22. Same here
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:37 PM
Feb 2023

I know that feeling!

It was not until I received his death certificate that the cause of death was deemed to be "vascular dementia". Was it really that?


It this was true, why wouldn't the do an MRI scan on his brain?

We have insurance to pay for it and the VA was willing to do it if I could get him to the local VA that can do an MRI scan that is 300 miles away. He was far too sick to travel that far and I cannot drive that far any longer.

So sad I am. Forever.

NewHendoLib

(61,857 posts)
3. What an interesting thing to ponder...
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:31 PM
Feb 2023

Thinking about the personal impacts...

The onset of COVID had interesting timing for us. We closed on our house in western NC in early January (after 28 years in increasingly hot and crowded Raleigh), and moved soon after. Then COVID hit and things shut down. BUT - instead of traveling all over to do my gardening workshops (my last was to Oregon, and CT, in February 2020), I started doing Instagram Live from my garden - and converted my workshops to Zooms from my home office. Thus, I became a home body, and will remain so - I turned down a request to speak in Arkansas because I simply don't want to get on a plane unless necessary.

Being in a rural area, we love to hike and COVID shutting stuff down meant we had time to explore the many trails, instead of the town we moved to. This extended our time to explore our new place, and three years later, it still feels somewhat new to us, which is great. We typically don't do take out or eat out much, since we both love to cook (and our big garden gives us plenty to use).

My wife and I are retired and in our mid 60s - and perhaps unusually, we personally are probably better off following the COVID years because of what I related above. It allowed us to slow down, listen to more books and podcasts, and get out into nature.

As far as politically, COVID exposed TFG as an even bigger asshole in the ways he pushed so much misinfo. In a way, COVID may have helped cement the MAGA cult, which we of course continue to grapple with.

So - in pondering the last three years, it certainly was a unique time in our lives, but for the most part, we were not significantly impacted for the worse - and the changes actually led to a better quality of life for us.

snowybirdie

(6,687 posts)
4. Wed been traveling
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:44 PM
Feb 2023

in retirement and enjoying different places. Had to stop, and now, due to some infirmaties developed since then, we'd find it difficult to go. Dang!

snowybirdie

(6,687 posts)
5. Wed been traveling
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:46 PM
Feb 2023

in retirement and enjoying different places. Had to stop, and now, due to some infirmaties developed since then, we'd find it difficult to go. Dang! And also wouldn't have made Florida our permanent place to live.

StarryNite

(12,116 posts)
7. It has affected my family in so many ways.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:53 PM
Feb 2023

I'm just so tired of it but I'm not letting down my guard, still masking and trying to avoid large groups of people, etc.

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
9. At salon I wore my mask today. Only damn one.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:00 PM
Feb 2023

LOL. I am like if I am spending 2 hours in here I am gonna do my damndest not to catch it a second time.

I caught it pre vax. Someone brought it home to me.

Chautauquas

(4,489 posts)
8. My biggest concern was my grandkids
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 03:59 PM
Feb 2023

One was 12 and the other one was 15 when the pandemic began. To see them miss out on socialization they were getting at school before classes went remote due to covid, and to see my grandson miss out on a full season of soccer was heartbreaking. The pandemic hit at a crucial time of their development and it's really a damn shame it went that way.

Johonny

(26,179 posts)
24. I don't think my kids have recovered
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:45 PM
Feb 2023

My oldest hit kindergarten and he's not doing that great. My youngest is in special ed for speech delay. Neither is good at social interaction. I think the school system is completely not designed to handle lost years.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
12. If there was no COVID, Trump might have won the presidency.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:07 PM
Feb 2023

Then, life for all of us would be different.

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
17. Well, there's a truly horrible thought
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:18 PM
Feb 2023

Think you're right, too. Without Trump's total incompetence during the pandemic, he might very well have slithered into a 2nd term.

Yikes!

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
13. Any time missed etc and anything else is nothing , absolutely nothing
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:11 PM
Feb 2023

Compared to the loss of my father, murdered by covid, and I would give anything to have him back and well. And also it’s nothing compared to having had double c pneumonia and now having long haul c and heart problems. Those who are still alive and healthy should be happy for that because they are the lucky ones.

GusBob

(8,249 posts)
14. Actually I was able to "make the best of it"
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:12 PM
Feb 2023

In a dark cloud/silver lining way. I was able to collect and edit family food recipes into a cookbook of sorts

Another project: I transcribed my grandpas WW1 diary into type so everyone could read it and uploaded it to shutterfly and made a book for his umpteen grand kids to read

Also I was quarantined alot from work. Lost income, but was able to spend many days, isolated, hunting and fishing. Did alot of scouting too which really paid off

This is an interesting topic fer sure: One thing we should all have learned is what to do if/when the next pandemic hits

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
15. It was certainly a reset.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:13 PM
Feb 2023

Some good and some bad came out of it, but it was a reset for sure. Our path has veered.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
18. We'd probably be enduring a second Trump administration right now
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:19 PM
Feb 2023

It's sad to think that all of that needless death was needed to save us from more Trump (or at least buy us a four-year reprieve), but I think the odds are high that without the unhappiness over Trump's COVID response, a shift of a few percentage points in voting results would have handed the 2020 election to Trump, and probably the House and Senate to Republican control as well.

COVID may in fact be what saved American democracy. A second Trump term and Republican control of Congress would have enabled Republicans to deeply entrench their power over elections and every other aspect of government. We might not have been able to escape that for a very long time.

Even now, we aren't completely out of the woods, we just have a much better fighting chance to keep American democracy going.

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
19. I switched jobs to full time work at home
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:22 PM
Feb 2023

which has made all the difference in the world. If I hadn't I would likely have quit or gone on medical leave from my last job from the stress. Working at home, I've also lost 40 pounds and saved a lot of money by cooking my own lunches. And I get two extra hours a day back from commuting.

So personally, if we hadn't have had the pandemic, my life would almost unquestionably have been worse.

Emile

(42,293 posts)
20. I travelled all I want when I was working. 3,000 miles every
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:31 PM
Feb 2023

week as an 18 wheel truck driver. When I retired the last thing I wanted to do was travel. I have acreage, woods, large lawn and a fishing/swimming pond. Plenty things to do to stay busy and active. I enjoy being home so the pandemic really didn't effect my life that much.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
23. Yes, and I have also pondered recently how my life would be different
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 04:37 PM
Feb 2023

If Fred Trump's condom hadn't broken.

hunter

(40,691 posts)
25. I'm a creature of the internet and the wilderness so it wasn't a severe impact on myself.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 05:14 PM
Feb 2023

My wife's work shifted to 50% internet. Unfortunately covid-19 doubled her work load and quadrupled the stress. Yeah, she's a front line medical provider. Patients died.

Our children have work that shifted to near 100% internet but I think they often missed the face-to face office work.

One of my nieces missed out on a lot by this, forced to do most of her university work at home on the internet. The greater depths of my own university experience, for the better and the worse, weren't anything I could have accomplished on the internet.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
26. I think what would have happened with Hillary in the White House .
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 05:27 PM
Feb 2023

She would have controlled the virus.

Remember the Panic Resource Team Trump got rid off.

I had just retired and had plans on taken my Grandkids on a cross country trip in the RV that I had bought.

We didn't go.

Maybe we should have gone looking back.

But with Trump in the White House who knew what was going to happen.



SKKY

(12,801 posts)
27. I would rather not, because it's likely Trump would have been re-elected...
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 05:32 PM
Feb 2023

...so, yea. I'm good.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
35. The virus made a lot of people get out to vote for President Biden.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 06:05 PM
Feb 2023

To bad Trump was ever in the office to begin with.

hack89

(39,181 posts)
30. The pandemic actually had a positive impact on my life.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 05:41 PM
Feb 2023

I was able to shift to working from home full time. Neither myself or my wife were financially impacted as our jobs continued without any interruption. Because we are empty nesters we didn't have to deal with remote learning for our kids.

In general, we found it gave us a calmer life with more time to ourselves. We were never scared nor did any one close to us ever get sick enough for us to be concerned.

We were extremely lucky.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
31. The thing that truly terrifies me is that Trump likely would have been re-elected if not for Covid.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 05:50 PM
Feb 2023

His botched handling and the resulting hundreds of thousands of deaths was really all that stood between him getting a second term.

It's bone-chilling to think about.

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
32. I don't feel I lost anything during the pandemic
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 05:51 PM
Feb 2023

We were very fortunate to have a country house in rural Pennsylvania to retreat to.

We were both able to work remotely, something I’ve been doing since way before it was called that. In fact, for one of my clients, we had one of our best years ever!

We applied our free time to projects around the house and yard. Because the area is so undeveloped, we went on hikes or canoe rides when it was warm. We built a small greenhouse so my wife could grow vegetables.

We created new daily routines emphasizing time we could spend together. The highlights of our weeks were simple: trips to the supermarket, post office and the dump. We spent extra time preparing meals. We’d have our cocktails in front of a fire when it was cold or watching the river and wildlife when it was warm.

We feel very fortunate to have the comfort and safety we have. Oddly, however, it wasn’t a wasted or lost time for us.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
34. My life didn't change all that much.
Fri Feb 10, 2023, 06:02 PM
Feb 2023

Before pandemic: Work at home. Take long neighborhood walks daily. Putter around in yard. Spend time reading books, surfing the internet, and watching movies and shows on TV/streaming services. Entertain and snuggle kitties. Cook from scratch mostly, heavy on the vegan soups and salads.

During pandemic: Work at home. Take long neighborhood walks daily. Putter around in yard. Spend time reading books, surfing the internet, and watching movies and shows on TV/streaming services. Entertain and snuggle kitties. Cook from scratch mostly, heavy on the vegan soups and salads.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
38. My life has been destroyed from the pandemic. I've lost 2 family members, including my beloved dad
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:56 PM
Feb 2023

3 months ago. I feel such anger at the Covid deniers, anti-maskers, and eugenic fans who act like the pandemic is over while thousands of Americans are still dying each week.

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