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(6,508 posts)AZ8theist
(7,465 posts)Because it's empty space:

calimary
(90,326 posts)for either Bimboebert or Margie Traitor Gangrene - especially wearing that cloud of white fuzz to the State of the Union.
MyOwnPeace
(17,593 posts)Now, who's gonna' read it to her?
70sEraVet
(5,531 posts)And why THOSE events? I don't think they do it before boxing matches or golf tournaments.
niyad
(133,132 posts)recruiting tool that we are paying for.
Clash City Rocker
(3,546 posts)These things often start during wartime. The incentive was no doubt to get someone elected.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)You don't know they don't! When was the last time you watched the opening of a chess tournament?
SCantiGOP
(14,735 posts)That you couldnt be seated in Congress unless you swore the oath on a Bible. The Founding Fathers would have been unanimous on that one.
flying_wahini
(8,279 posts)Skittles
(172,181 posts)I didn't watch the SB but I checked out that song and it's just lovely, how do these people live with so much hatred?
AZ8theist
(7,465 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)I don't think there are any other countries who do that. What is the point of a pledge you are forced to recite.
Does it have any meaning? Is that indoctrination?
What I don't understand is why people like Boobert hate America. She likes nothing we do. She only likes her religion. She does not like our literature, our culture or anyone but white Americans and guns.
Thunderbeast
(3,827 posts)...and to the Republic, and Richard Stands....
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)SpamWyzer
(385 posts)he is "one naked individual". LOL
calimary
(90,326 posts)iwillalwayswonderwhy
(2,728 posts)Asked me who Liberty and Justin Frall were.
twodogsbarking
(19,006 posts)* Some exclusions apply.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)"With liberty and justice for all."
DFW
(60,317 posts)From another recent post:
For their high school year abroad (German schools encourage this), my daughters chose to go to the USA. They are both dual nationals who were both born and raised in Germany, and although I always spoke to them in English, and they are now fluent, their native language and culture remains German.
My elder daughter chose to go to the local high school where my Dallas residence was/is. Since I had a legal residence there, it was no problem enrolling her. My roomies there had no problem making room for her. When school started, I stuck around for a week, in case there were any difficulties to iron out, since, although she had visited a couple of times a year, she had never lived in the States before.
After a day or two, I asked how she was adjusting. She said it seemed OK, although the kids there were fascinated by the exotic method of conveyance she used to get to school (a bicycle that I had bought her for this purpose). It seems that in Dallas, NOBODY uses a bicycle to get to school. In Germany, lots of kids do, especially since the driving age there is 18. My wife did when she was that age, and since our part of Dallas was flat, it seemed logical. Oops. If she flown in with her own helicopter, they probably wouldn't have been more amazed.
Then, there was the ritual chanting, which she found very odd.
Ritual chanting? In a Dallas public school? Yep, every morning--unison ritual ritual chanting. Like Buddhist monks do (we had seen documentaries)? She said, yeah, not quite, but similar.
I asked, "What do they chant?"
She said they mostly mumbled it in a disinterested monotone. Her English was pretty good, but she couldn't make most of it out. But, so she said, it started out with "I spread the peaches." Now, she does not lie, but this sounded like some teen science fiction movie. "The Invasion of the Texas Fruit Children?" Dallas teenagers go into a trance and recite in unison, "I spread the peaches?" Is that all they do? She said, and they all stand up to do it. This was getting too weird. Some obscure cult inside the Dallas school system?
She then added, oh, yeah, and they all put their right hands on their chests. Uh-oh. I had forgotten that they still do this in American public schools, and never told her. Her English was very good by age 16, but we never use words like "pledge" or "allegiance" in everyday conversation, so she wasn't familiar with either. She just heard words that she found the most familiar. I explained to her about the Pledge of Allegiance. In Germany, exaggerated rituals of patriotism are frowned upon as too reminiscent of the Nazi era, so she had no idea what was going on. Even after I explained it to her, she still was confused about why American schoolkids, especially since most of them had never even been to another country, needed to be reminded every morning what country they came from.
She decided to stand and mumble "I spread the peaches" with the rest of them, so as not to stand out, but she always found it a very weird thing to do, and never understood the purpose of it.
"...with liver cheese and just us four walls."
3catwoman3
(29,588 posts)
word, of what little kids think the words of the pledge are. The one I always remember is liver, tea, and juice for all, instead of liberty and justice for all.
I finished high school in 1969. Reciting the pledge was a daily ritual, and had a very rote quality about it. - just a thing to do either before or after attendance was taken.
I remember having a similar feeling at a Brownie Scouts camp out when several of my troop member rushed thru their Catholic bedtime prayers in the evening. They said them so fast and so routinely that, even at age 9-10, it was readily apparent to me that the words meant nothing to them.
Disaffected
(6,477 posts)we sang a song which went in part:
"Hide it under a bushel? No! I'm going to let it shine" (referring to something I've forgotten now). Now, I could not figure out what a "bushel" was so it occurred to me that the actual wording must have been "Hide it under a bush, hell no.........". My mother thought that was pretty hilarious when I recited the song to her one day.....
3catwoman3
(29,588 posts)Disaffected
(6,477 posts)She even considered sending my lyrics alteration to a radio program called "Kids Say the Darndest Things" or some-such but decided not to as she thought too few people would be familiar with the song (which BTW was "This Little Light of Mine" ).
Anyhow, in a similar vein, I was also puzzled as a kid by the Christmas song lyrics "Up on the rooftop reindeer paws....". At least that's the way it sounded to me and I could not figure out why "paws" as reindeer have hooves. It wasn't until years later that I realized it actually was "Up on the rooftop reindeer pause....".
3catwoman3
(29,588 posts)happy parent.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)niyad
(133,132 posts)DFW
(60,317 posts)I pledge no credence to the bag
Of lies Fox tells to America
And to the injustice, for which it stands,
One station, shunned by God, indefensible,
With Hannity, disgusting for all.
3catwoman3
(29,588 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,006 posts)calimary
(90,326 posts)colorado_ufo
(6,259 posts)You stupid hate-filled bitch.
America the Beautiful was a poem by Katharine Lee Bates in 1893 after a visit to Pikes Peak here in Colorado. It has been set to music many times. You should be thrilled that our state is so honored along with the National Anthem. It is an expression of the beauty and peace and brotherhood that America can offer and gives a view of what we can be alongside an anthem that is based on war and battles.
Go back and finish school. And while you are at it, practice opening a little crack in that hard heart of yours.
GGoss
(1,273 posts)soldierant
(9,360 posts)I thought it was "Lift Every Voice" that was played.
colorado_ufo
(6,259 posts)She is still a hate-filled opportunist who just wants money and attention.
Deuxcents
(27,290 posts)soldierant
(9,360 posts)I assume it was "Lift Every Voice" which had all the MAGAts undies in wads, though.
America the Beautiful would be better than what we have, but not perfect, and expecially if only the first verse were sung. Too many people hear "God shed his grace on thee" as a past tense instead of a subjunctive, and therefore a fait accompli. If we could substitute the one from ([I think] the third verse ]but it might be the second]), I'd feel better about it:
"America, America, God mend thine every flaw!
Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law!"
At least that would add some much-needed humility to it. But, of course, it would still be questionable as to church-state separation.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Asleep at the wheel comes to mind and is never a good thing.
Woke equates to: alert, aware, with it, etc.
Being against that is a losing proposition.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Its a corporate profit binge.
A family can not afford to go to a regular game. Let alone Super Bowl.
karin_sj
(1,377 posts)"Get over yourself and your ridiculous white grievances."
They're just trying to rile up their base and make "wokeness" (which actually refers to tolerance, enlightenment, acceptance of others different than yourself, and kindness towards your fellow man) a horrible, frightening word that they can use to turn people against each other. I am sick unto death of these so-called Christians who totally ignore the words in the Bible unless they can twist them to suit their hateful beliefs. "Love they neighbor as thyself" is totally meaningless to them. These people are the worst!
Ford_Prefect
(8,632 posts)That is to say, "What it is, What it was, What it will be." Dig It, Bit**!
JohnnyRingo
(20,928 posts)Maybe she complained about it over the sound of the game.
orleans
(37,037 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,918 posts)If stupid could fly, she'd be the Starship Enterprise at Warp 10.
Beartracks
(14,621 posts)pfitz59
(12,798 posts)Should be our national anthem. Not a song glorifying war, or one mentioning 'God'.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)would be my choice.................
Oh, and by the way, could you imagine a Super Bowl or any other game being played without Black Athletes.........
ShazzieB
(22,721 posts)If stupid could fly, Boebert would be the space shuttle.
I know this, because unlike her, I am smart!
republianmushroom
(22,440 posts)nailed it.
Cha
(319,598 posts)Rt TY!
czarjak
(13,665 posts)BumRushDaShow
(170,761 posts)GreenEyedLefty
(2,116 posts)These idiots always tell on themselves, don't they?