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The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 09:33 AM Feb 2023

Philly lost.

I am disappointed and did not sleep well.
What I am not is a red ass sore loser like tRump and the republican party.
Greetings and good morning to that other team.

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Philly lost. (Original Post) The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 OP
Philly rso Feb 2023 #1
You need to demand a do-over Super Bowl game bases on nothing more than the fact your team lost. Ray Bruns Feb 2023 #4
I think we will need some military support The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #6
KC fan here................ Lovie777 Feb 2023 #2
If they had played for 4 more hours..... MyOwnPeace Feb 2023 #3
I also was cheering for Philly. ChazII Feb 2023 #5
Kansas City won based on BRILLIANT clock management. Thunderbeast Feb 2023 #7
Deferring the touchdown to count on a field goal after one was missed earlier in game mnhtnbb Feb 2023 #8
KC won on a ticky tac penalty DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #10
Are you certain that the Chiefs wouldn't have won anyway? onenote Feb 2023 #11
I don't know, and we will never know DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #12
Why two timeouts? Philly called its second timeout before the play on which holding was called. onenote Feb 2023 #13
I thought they had two DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #15
Same ref that jobbed the Bengals in the AFC Championship. maxsolomon Feb 2023 #14
Really? Eagles' James Bradberry admits officials made correct call on crucial late holding penalty hlthe2b Feb 2023 #18
Yeah really! DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #19
When the very player who committed the error, admits it and agrees with the penalty then you've lost hlthe2b Feb 2023 #20
I played Division II ball DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #21
So you never followed the rules then. Okay, got it. hlthe2b Feb 2023 #22
Frank Clark lines up in the neutral zone DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #24
Every team I've ever rooted for or watched has received bad calls from time to time. hlthe2b Feb 2023 #25
Eh, a championship game shouldn't end on a soft call DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #26
I had no favorite in that game, but if you truly believe there is pattern of incompetence, hlthe2b Feb 2023 #27
You don't think the NFL does analytics on referees??? DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #28
Of course I do. hlthe2b Feb 2023 #29
Lol DenaliDemocrat Feb 2023 #31
LOL Have another serving: hlthe2b Feb 2023 #32
Have you tried calling sarisataka Feb 2023 #9
It was a very good game and Eagles played extremely well. It could just as well have gone their way. hlthe2b Feb 2023 #16
Sorry, but booing the Payton humanitarian award winner was one of the most JCMach1 Feb 2023 #17
I was a Bears fan during the Walter Peyton era. milestogo Feb 2023 #30
I prefer to look on the bright side - they ALMOST WON! FakeNoose Feb 2023 #23

Ray Bruns

(6,362 posts)
4. You need to demand a do-over Super Bowl game bases on nothing more than the fact your team lost.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 10:01 AM
Feb 2023
 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
6. I think we will need some military support
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 10:53 AM
Feb 2023

I know the military did not support tRump but I bet they will support Philly.

Lovie777

(22,985 posts)
2. KC fan here................
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 09:36 AM
Feb 2023

It was an intense and well played game and hats off to QB Jalen Hurts and his team.

MyOwnPeace

(17,564 posts)
3. If they had played for 4 more hours.....
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 09:39 AM
Feb 2023

it would have still been a close game and the winner would have been whichever team had the lead when the clock ran out.

2 fantastic teams playing a great game - CONGRATS to BOTH!

ChazII

(6,448 posts)
5. I also was cheering for Philly.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 10:50 AM
Feb 2023

Congrats to the Chiefs. Thank you both teams as your fans were wonderful guests at least over in the area where ESPN had their broadcast area set up. It was fun to visit with them at 8:30am yesterday. Maybe the fans were tired from partying on Saturday night or just not hyped up at the time of the day. Anyway both were gracious while visiting Old Town of Scottsdale.

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
7. Kansas City won based on BRILLIANT clock management.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 11:06 AM
Feb 2023

I was in a rural area that did not get FOX over the repeater. Listened to the game on radio.

The decisions made by the KC coaching staff in the last two minutes of the game were masterful. Deferring a touchdown to burn clock sealed the game.

mnhtnbb

(33,350 posts)
8. Deferring the touchdown to count on a field goal after one was missed earlier in game
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 11:18 AM
Feb 2023

had me biting my nails.

What if the snap were to be mishandled? What if someone were to get a hand up and deflect the ball? What if the kicker slipped?
AAAGHH...deferring a touchdown?!? What a ballsy move. Egads.

onenote

(46,143 posts)
11. Are you certain that the Chiefs wouldn't have won anyway?
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 12:08 PM
Feb 2023

Without the penalty, they would have had a makeable 33 yard field goal. If they make it, by the time the Eagles take the field after the ensuing kick off , they would have around 110 seconds but only one time out to move the ball from the 25 yard line (assuming kick off wasn't returned). Could Philly have moved the ball downfield into field goal range (or score a touchdown)? Sure. But no guarantee.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
12. I don't know, and we will never know
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 12:25 PM
Feb 2023

Because the refs called zero holding penalties and no PI the whole game, so players play a certain way. Then at the last minute they call this…

Reddick was held all night - zero penalties. Refs called a loose game until they didn’t. Totally unacceptable and ruined an otherwise great game.

It should have been Eagles ball with 1:44 and two timeouts- can KC hold or do we go to OT?

Instead we got a questionable flag and a kneel down.

Maybe the worst ending to a Super Bowl ever. The refs dictated the outcome

onenote

(46,143 posts)
13. Why two timeouts? Philly called its second timeout before the play on which holding was called.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 12:31 PM
Feb 2023

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
15. I thought they had two
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 12:37 PM
Feb 2023

Still doesn’t matter. #1 Defensive line on football and zero holding calls despite OBVIOUS holding. If you are going to call a loose game - fine. If the hold had been egregious - fine. The fans were robbed.

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
18. Really? Eagles' James Bradberry admits officials made correct call on crucial late holding penalty
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 01:10 PM
Feb 2023

Eagles' James Bradberry admits officials made correct call on crucial late holding penalty
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/super-bowl-2023-eagles-james-bradberry-admits-officials-made-correct-call-on-crucial-late-holding-penalty/


You might step away from the sour grapes...

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
19. Yeah really!
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 01:44 PM
Feb 2023

There is holding and hand fighting on every play. The players get a feel for how the reds are going to call the game and react accordingly.

For example, Reddick was getting tackled every play and Frank Clark lines up on the neutral zone at least 50% of the time.

There were 0 holding calls, 0 PI calls for 58.5 minutes- until…

And it BARELY a hold and the ball was probably uncatchable. Ruined a good game. It’s a shame.

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
20. When the very player who committed the error, admits it and agrees with the penalty then you've lost
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 01:49 PM
Feb 2023

all credible argument.

Beginning to look more like:





Grace in acknowledging losing is a sign of maturity and we all see our teams lose from time to time. Something our RW colleagues will apparently never learn, but I'd like to think we would not join that crowd.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
21. I played Division II ball
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:07 PM
Feb 2023

How about you?

The fans lost because the ref made a tacky call

Greg Olsen played Pro ball and was a hell of a TE. He agrees with me.


Maybe you’re just a homer who can’t take honest criticism of a call that they liked.

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
22. So you never followed the rules then. Okay, got it.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:11 PM
Feb 2023

I see why your athletic career didn't go further. And no, I'm not impressed by your rule-breaking time playing Division II ball any more than I'm impressed with those who advocate breaking the rules in other contexts. Quite the take on ethics.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
24. Frank Clark lines up in the neutral zone
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:14 PM
Feb 2023

1/2 of the game. They called it once. The tackled belly flopped on Reddick and failed to attempt to get up.

Clark hit Joe Burrow in the head and reds didn’t call roughing.

I’m sure you’re outraged

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
25. Every team I've ever rooted for or watched has received bad calls from time to time.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:16 PM
Feb 2023

The mature among those players and coaches know it will even out and chalk it up, concentrating on teamwide efforts to avoid penalties in the future.

The mature among them...

Maybe you should sue or instigate a takeover of the KC Chiefs headquarter or the state's capitol. There's the ticket.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
26. Eh, a championship game shouldn't end on a soft call
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:20 PM
Feb 2023

Especially since they called the other 58.5 minutes loose as hell. It’s not right. Go be a homer. I’m not even a Philly fan. Alaska is Hawk country.

I’m tired of the refs deciding games. That’s an AFC championship and now a Superbowl.

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
27. I had no favorite in that game, but if you truly believe there is pattern of incompetence,
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:28 PM
Feb 2023

especially if biased-- among NFL refs-- then you can constantly complain and drive away all who might ordinarily be predisposed to listen OR you can seek to enact change. First, you would need a data-driven analysis to show any evidence that specific refs were the problems (and thus it does NOT even out) and to show unfair bias towards or against specific teams. When you have that systematically collected and analyzed data, I'll gladly listen. It would take time but the data is out there. Until then, sour grapes are not tasty, or an attractive look. So, I wish you well, but bye.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
28. You don't think the NFL does analytics on referees???
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:54 PM
Feb 2023

You don’t know football very well do you? You do realize that the referees are CONTRACT employees and not full-time employees of the nfl - right?

That poorly called games influencing outcomes has caused the nfl to seek to convert referees to full time employees like the NBA and MLH? An argument that has been fought for years, and STILL has no resolution.

That part-time employees not fully dedicated to their craft is and continues to be a major criticism of the NFL referee system?

Yeah Bye. Come back when you are educated on the subject, the issues, criticisms, etc.

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
29. Of course I do.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:58 PM
Feb 2023

YOU WANT CHANGE IN THE REFS, so it behooves YOU to prove what the NFL is very unlikely to make public--ever.

Done with your combative conversation. Bye.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
31. Lol
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 03:04 PM
Feb 2023

Yeah we’re done. I sure hope the NFL does some analysis on the referees. That was a GREAT idea you had 😂😂😂

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
16. It was a very good game and Eagles played extremely well. It could just as well have gone their way.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 01:05 PM
Feb 2023

So, I thank you for your mature response. We've had a few who were far less gracious. As one who has been on both sides of the win/lose equation with my favored teams, I just don't get the latter attitude. We all hope to live to play another day, right?

JCMach1

(29,202 posts)
17. Sorry, but booing the Payton humanitarian award winner was one of the most
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 01:08 PM
Feb 2023

Toxic fan moments I have seen in a long time.

No sympathy, the Eagles fans deserved the loss after that.

milestogo

(23,084 posts)
30. I was a Bears fan during the Walter Peyton era.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 03:02 PM
Feb 2023

They called him "sweetness".

Wonderful player, wonderful man.

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
23. I prefer to look on the bright side - they ALMOST WON!
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 02:12 PM
Feb 2023

Both teams had a great game and neither should be ashamed of this Super Bowl.
It was actually fun to watch this year, unlike so many others.
The Eagles came in 2nd place, and that's a great achievement.

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