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Michigan House Majority Whip doesn't mince words. (Original Post) catbyte Feb 2023 OP
Yes! Wild blueberry Feb 2023 #1
Michigan's not f'ing around... 2naSalit Feb 2023 #2
What's going to change? Kaleva Feb 2023 #14
Dems are going to pass gun control in Michigan Johnny2X2X Feb 2023 #18
Red flag laws are getting struck down by the courts Kaleva Feb 2023 #35
MSU supports 11 NRA, KKK, ex-limbaugh stations, which will gun-splain this too certainot Feb 2023 #40
This makes me sick. lambchopp59 Feb 2023 #53
that crap dominates 40+ states and they all have 2 senators. the dem party needs to find a way certainot Feb 2023 #54
K&R x100000000000 onecaliberal Feb 2023 #3
BAN THE ******* GUNS!!! Or ban men. Whichever is easier. Srkdqltr Feb 2023 #4
Or both, just to be safe. 1WorldHope Feb 2023 #5
Testosterone is dangerous AF. Many of the best countries in the world are run by women. OMGWTF Feb 2023 #11
How many of the insurrectionists were shooting it? nt 1WorldHope Feb 2023 #12
Test? Test is common. Aviation Pro Feb 2023 #39
Another great reason to stay out of a gym jaxexpat Feb 2023 #55
...... MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2023 #21
K&R a gazillion times over! llmart Feb 2023 #8
Large Marge Traildogbob Feb 2023 #17
Ban men? Really? But I don't own a gun and never have. Can I stay? panader0 Feb 2023 #43
Just magat men housecat Feb 2023 #46
Just ban rethuglican men housecat Feb 2023 #45
Well, one way or the either, we HAVE TO figure out what to do about the damn guns. calimary Feb 2023 #52
I cannot fathom what another round of parents is going through today ... Jarqui Feb 2023 #6
Kicked democrank Feb 2023 #7
but but what else have republicans have to offer but thoughts and prayers republianmushroom Feb 2023 #9
Just hate, their thougts and prayers are fake housecat Feb 2023 #47
agree republianmushroom Feb 2023 #49
When a law banning firearms SuperSkinny Feb 2023 #10
That's the part some people don't think about. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2023 #19
TY catbyte & Rep Puri Cha Feb 2023 #13
What does he mean by "passing common sense gun reform immediately"? Kaleva Feb 2023 #15
Probably red flag law DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2023 #24
I'm s member of Moms Demand Action here in Michigan Kaleva Feb 2023 #36
unless you're in a bunker gun violence can kill anybody. republican leaders know that, that's why samsingh Feb 2023 #16
Maybe that is the place to start. colorado_ufo Feb 2023 #48
Why do Republicans love their guns more than their kids? SunSeeker Feb 2023 #20
I would venture to say that repigs love their own kids, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2023 #22
Bingo! n/t Hope22 Feb 2023 #25
Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2023 #26
Their kids are more likely to be killed by the gun in their home than any intruder. SunSeeker Feb 2023 #27
I'm fully in agreement, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2023 #29
I know. They think about their guns, not their kids. nt SunSeeker Feb 2023 #33
Oh, they think about their kids, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2023 #34
That's not thinking about their kids, that's thinking how to spread their hate. nt SunSeeker Feb 2023 #37
Point taken. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2023 #41
NRA money in their re-election accounts. LakeArenal Feb 2023 #38
This! They've all been bought... Or most of them anyway FakeNoose Feb 2023 #42
Amen! spanone Feb 2023 #23
He's claiming there have been 2,215 mass shooting deaths in 2023. LastDemocratInSC Feb 2023 #28
That's the total number of gun deaths so far in 2023 according to Gun Violence Archive. Mass catbyte Feb 2023 #31
107 mass shooting deaths since 1 Jan. 267 wounded. 70 mass shootings. niyad Feb 2023 #44
Thanks catbyte...another reason why I love this state MiHale Feb 2023 #30
Wow! Excellent. Something must change. LymphocyteLover Feb 2023 #32
We need the Subversive 6 on the Extreme Cult to hand in their robes. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2023 #50
Liability for the industry must be restored RainCaster Feb 2023 #51

2naSalit

(102,790 posts)
2. Michigan's not f'ing around...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:15 PM
Feb 2023

Anymore. Dems have the government and shit is going to change. Last night was a good example of how that's going to happen.

I am glad for Michigan, it's been a long time coming.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
18. Dems are going to pass gun control in Michigan
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:24 PM
Feb 2023

A Red Flag law bill is already in committee. That bill may have prevented this very shooter from getting to keep his guns after he was arrested on a gun charge.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
35. Red flag laws are getting struck down by the courts
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:36 PM
Feb 2023

Because of the recent SCOTUS ruling

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. MSU supports 11 NRA, KKK, ex-limbaugh stations, which will gun-splain this too
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:04 PM
Feb 2023

it's fucking absurd for these 87 universities to keep ignoring their mission statements and continue to broadcast sports on 260+ rw radio stations as well as numerous others that didn't headline Limbaugh.

if mich dems want real reform it will be a lot easier if they get the MSU and UM to stop supporting the NRA!

fakenewsradio.org

uni of mich supports 7....

all those stations comfort the NRA and blame liberal laws, mental illness (duh - but they will always oppose legislation/ programs to decrease the problem), lack of security, 'defunding' cops, we need more guns, etc

uni of florida supports 10 that did it for parkland and other mass shootings and now all support desantis and his hate and paranoia, which will feed more shootings.

uni of syracuse, 150 miles from buffalo, supports 9 rw radio stations that did the same after that mass shooting.

they all also call BLM a terrorist org, kneeling athletes unAmerican, and they have all spread the 'replacement theory' lies about dems helping immigrants vote illegally, etc, for decades to push their voter suppression legislation

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
53. This makes me sick.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 07:14 AM
Feb 2023

I'm contracted for work in an area I jokingly call "radio-free Arizona". 2 radio stations come in clearly: a Navajo nation station, interesting, sometimes has local news and native chants, preaches God all day Sunday. I have it on a portable 📻 to calm my dog in his "kennel" (truck camper shell)
Sadly, the other one is Fox. No NPR selection here.
Now generally these natives don't tend towards much outward expression of their politics. But it remains a "red" County sadly voting so ironically against their own interests.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
54. that crap dominates 40+ states and they all have 2 senators. the dem party needs to find a way
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 07:56 AM
Feb 2023

to use AI to get talk radio digitized analyzed and included in the free speech spectrum. until then the analysts are analyzing fish without water.

in rural america there are no alts and even in cities there are few or none as far as dedicated to politics.

NPR does not 'compete' with that crap like hartmann, rhodes, etc would

OMGWTF

(5,131 posts)
11. Testosterone is dangerous AF. Many of the best countries in the world are run by women.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:59 PM
Feb 2023

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
39. Test? Test is common.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:01 PM
Feb 2023

These motherfuckers are eating trenbalone sandwiches by the fistful. Also, the gym bro culture is infested by these limp dicks, check out the tacticools pantomiming mag changes on treadmills.

Fuckheads all of them.

llmart

(17,617 posts)
8. K&R a gazillion times over!
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:31 PM
Feb 2023

I marched in the Million Mom March in the year 2000. We marched to the Capitol in Lansing. The stairs up to the Capitol were lined with a pair of shoes for every person that had died in Michigan at the hands of a gun. There were marchers that were men and children too. That fat ass Engler was governor, so it made no difference. And here we are 23 years later in an even worse situation.

I can only hope that because we have women in charge and Dems in control of the legislature, that we can finally make some progress.

Fuck those gun humping men who need a gun to make them feel manly.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
17. Large Marge
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:19 PM
Feb 2023

Bang Bang Barbie, Palin, the female Santos just elected in Florida, and many more. Men do the killing but many women are running for and getting elected glamorizing guns. And helping to stop any gun laws. Let’s not forget the Dakota gun humping Gov. Guns raise money, and win elections.
And no amount of horror seems to change any minds.
Start showing the blood and brain matter and blown up heads on the news.
Those 5 hospitalized yesterday, as well as ALL the victims that don’t die just get forgotten.
Those people can lose limbs, functioning brains, organs and be paralyzed for life. As well as billions racked up in medical bills. What are the numbers of “Injured”, show them as much as we do the dead numbers.
You can lose a fucking arm, and your shooter can be a hero taking in cash for his murders and be on Fox News as a Patriot.
God blessing America. That white male God that, with all his magical powers, (or all the cash he raises) can’t protect a single person from the hell on earth in America.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
52. Well, one way or the either, we HAVE TO figure out what to do about the damn guns.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:47 AM
Feb 2023

HAVE TO. It's not a choice. And to say it's a matter of life and death is NOT an exaggeration OR attempted scare tactic. It's the brutal reality of these times.

I want to get rid of ALL - repeat, ALL - the guns. ALL OF 'EM. I just haven't yet figured out how.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
6. I cannot fathom what another round of parents is going through today ...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:24 PM
Feb 2023

Completely agree with his first sentence.

Like everyone one else: when is this going to get a meaningful reaction?

republianmushroom

(22,325 posts)
9. but but what else have republicans have to offer but thoughts and prayers
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:35 PM
Feb 2023

well they could vote to control the sale of certain fire arms. Na to simple

 

SuperSkinny

(39 posts)
10. When a law banning firearms
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:48 PM
Feb 2023

passes someday, and all the democrats turn them in, and the republicans sit back and laugh. That’s when the round ups begin in earnest. And then what? The republicans already tell everyone that they won’t turn in anything. I’m surprised the republicans haven’t pushed for a ban and turn in. When they do, you know what happens next.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,504 posts)
24. Probably red flag law
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:46 PM
Feb 2023

And universal background check. Those are the ones wirh the most support and easiest to pass. My understanding from talking with others who are far more tuned into Michigan politics then I, any gun control law will still be a heavy lift, even with full Dem control. And some proposals, like an assault weapons ban, magazine capacity limit, etc, are likely going nowhere.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
36. I'm s member of Moms Demand Action here in Michigan
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:40 PM
Feb 2023

At the last zoom meeting, proposed legislation was discussed. The Democrats narrow margin in the state legislature limits what can be expected.

samsingh

(18,426 posts)
16. unless you're in a bunker gun violence can kill anybody. republican leaders know that, that's why
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:19 PM
Feb 2023

they don't let guns into their public meetings.

Until Americans prioritize voting to get rid of the gun lobby and guns from everyday abuse, they are choosing some stupid words over children and other innocent being slaughtered too often

colorado_ufo

(6,252 posts)
48. Maybe that is the place to start.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:39 PM
Feb 2023

Deny them the right to ban guns at their meetings. Public meetings are subject to public laws. Let them feel the fear.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
22. I would venture to say that repigs love their own kids,
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:39 PM
Feb 2023

but love their guns more than other kids.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
34. Oh, they think about their kids,
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:35 PM
Feb 2023

they think about how they can teach them to hate, how to use their firearms against other peoples kids, especially kids of other color.

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
42. This! They've all been bought... Or most of them anyway
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:12 PM
Feb 2023

Luckily the NRA ran out of money, so many it's our chance to boot them out.

catbyte

(39,152 posts)
31. That's the total number of gun deaths so far in 2023 according to Gun Violence Archive. Mass
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:21 PM
Feb 2023

shooting so far this year is now 70 according to them.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
50. We need the Subversive 6 on the Extreme Cult to hand in their robes.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:22 PM
Feb 2023

Any weapon beyond a single shot hunting tool needs regulating (based on the part of the 2nd Amendment that the Extreme Cult completely ignores). The farther beyond the capability of a flint-lock musket, the more the weapon needs regulation -- licensing, insurance, training requirements should all go up as the killing capacity goes up.

RainCaster

(13,712 posts)
51. Liability for the industry must be restored
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:08 AM
Feb 2023

That's the only way to restore safety, follow the money.

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