These are adults DeSantis! Doesn't HIPAA laws cover this? this has to be illegal! College Students

[Peacetrain]

private medical info being turned over to the Florida Gov.?? Am I wrong about this??


Ron DeSantis requested the medical records of all trans students in Florida's public universities. Now students are planning a statewide walkout.

https://news.yahoo.com/ron-desantis-requested-medical-records-145417991.html

"Ron DeSantis told all public universities in Florida to hand over the medical records of all trans students.

Insider has confirmed six of the 12 universities have complied with the request.

Now, college students across the state are planning a walkout to protest the governor's request.

Students across Florida are planning a statewide walkout after Gov. Ron DeSantis requested all public universities comply in delivering data from student health services on transgender students who sought gender-affirming care at the institutions."

[Ocelot II]

1. It's HIPAA. "Hippa" might be a lady hippopotamus.

I think they are getting around it by de-identifying the records, or claiming to. It's still outrageous.

[Peacetrain]

4. Thanks for the correction on HIPPA... I was just so rattled reading this

[Ocelot II]

9. HIPAA.

[wryter2000]

31. Health insurance portability and accountability act

DeSantis can demand all he wants, and the custodians of records will tell him to grow up.

[Autumn]

49. You think? Six of the 12 universities have already complied with the request

[keithbvadu2]

2. Precedent... Whose records will be next?

[Peacetrain]

5. I had to sign papers to let my husband read my medical records

this is just bonkers

[SunSeeker]

42. My 18 year old son had to sign approval before I could see his college medical records.

How the fuck can what DeathSantis wants be legal?

[Peacetrain]

55. Exactly.

[ananda]

3. I'd get out of Florida stat if I were them.

Wow

[Ocelot II]

6. There were already a lot of reasons to get out of FL, and DeSatan keeps adding them.

Eventually all of FL will be The Villages - a whole state populated only by angry conservative old people.

[mgardener]

48. I am sad that I have to say this

That being old does not mean you are angry or conservative.

[Ocelot II]

52. I'm old and I'm neither angry nor conservative.

However, my point was that most occupants of The Villages seem to have all three qualities, and all of FL seems to be trending in the same direction.

[MadameButterfly]

53. of course, as one old person to another

but the angry conservative ones are the ones supporting DeSantis and not making plans to leave.
And the poor, and the many who have other reasons to be there and can't just up and leave. Who we need there to fight for right.

[OneGrassRoot]

15. Seriously...

I know it's not easy to move for most people (financially and otherwise), but this is rapidly becoming a full-on Gilead situation. Those not aligned with Gilead need to be airlifted out soon.

[obamanut2012]

20. I am, next week

I started looking in July, because I knew all these wingnuts from the NE moving here would reelect him and he'd go full Hitler. I signed a job offer recently, at a much better university at much higher pay with a signing bonus.

It is 1932 Germany here in Florida now.

[scarletlib]

21. Lucky you. I am stuck here until I die or my husband pre-deceases me.

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He loves this damned state. He grew up here and he loves the climate. He literally has no body fat and can’t tolerate the cold.

If he beats me to St. Peter, I am heading out to Los Angeles.

[GusBob]

7. Seems as if the law allows

De-identified information for statistical data purposes

I dunno if for political purposes is allowed

[AllaN01Bear]

8. i hope someone or a group of somones launch a class action against him.

[wnylib]

45. Perhaps people in fascist free states

need to establish funds through contributions and networks of companies and individuals to help people move out of Forida, Texas, and other deep red states that are trampling over women's health, LGBTQ people, and POC. An asylum program to get them into safe places and help them get jobs, educations, and a fresh start in life.




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[The Unmitigated Gall]

10. Six universities have complied.

How fucking sickening.

[Initech]

18. Assholes. This is some serious Nazi level shit.

I wouldn't mind seeing Ron DeSantis and Tucker Carlson dragged before The Hague for their crimes against humanity.

[rubbersole]

19. And Rupert.

[Hope22]

36. I hope the students take legal action! N/t

[moniss]

37. It's time to

put pressure on the US Dept of Ed. to go aggressively against all federal funding to any university that has done this.

[keithbvadu2]

11. Republicans want your menstrual history

Virginia governor blocks bill banning police from seeking menstrual histories

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143034938

[Peacetrain]

12. I am so glad to be past child bearing age..

Just insane..

[Initech]

13. What the absolute fuck is wrong with DeSantis? He's gone absolutely mad with power.

Why isn't Biden denouncing his madness?

[Peacetrain]

16. I am hoping the good women of all the media outlets start ripping the hide off of

these bloated, self righteous, demeaning Maga politicians and media commentators..

[Skittles]

60. FASCIST

pure and simple

[scipan]

62. Good question. Biden doesn't seem all that political, though

he must be political aware since he's lasted this long.

I read once that he doesn't practice for debates.

A good and a bad trait.

[rubbersole]

14. Ron, hurry up and grow that little mustache like your mentor had.

It would look good on your meatball head.

[obamanut2012]

17. Well, some staff and faculty here were ordered to turn over private cell texts

And social media texts and log-ins, but oh no, I was a liar or a dupe! And all DEI funding was to be cut off on February 1 and books were being pulled from the stacks (at a university). Oh no, I was wrong! It was a scam and some of you didn't buy it and said I was wrong or a liar! Even though I was involved with this, and refused to do so. I was attacked so badly I deleted my thread.

The universities here are under attack in many ways. I am glad some people here are starting to take it seriously.

[riversedge]

22. All of Florida is King DeSantis's Kingdom.

[onenote]

23. Not covered by HIPAA because the information is not personally identifiable.

[IronLionZion]

24. He requested ages and dates when they received care

I hope lawyers do challenge it under HIPAA

[Peacetrain]

28. Exactly and cross check with student records (via birthdates) and what staff they saw

medical or counseling etc.. The right is out to dismantle public education.. just as they tried to get rid of the post office.. they are so very strange.

[Eyeball_Kid]

39. There's MONEY in privatization. n/t

[oldmanlynn]

27. what do you mean not covered.

medical records are covered under HIPAA. You cant just release medical records of individuals without their consent. There most likely is information in the medical records that makes the individual identifiable. Most records would have their name and date of birth. Also past medical history could identify somebody.

[IronLionZion]

29. Welcome to DU!

[oldmanlynn]

46. thanks. nfm

[Rhiannon12866]

63. +100

Thanks and welcome to DU!

[gopiscrap]

64. welcome to DU

[Volaris]

25. They should be considering a lawsuit. Helping the state turn your fellow

Citizens into political punching bags isn't a Legitimate Medical Purpose, and should be a pretty easy case to make to a federal judge.

[CaptainTruth]

26. What medical records would they have???

When I went to college (public university) the university didn't have ANY of my medical records. Why would they? They're not my doctor.

Also, the university didn't know if I was gay straight trans or whatever, so how in the heck are these universities identifying "all trans students"? It's none of their business if someone is trans.

Geez, DeFascist truly is a fascist.

[IronLionZion]

30. Many universities have medical centers to provide health care to students

some have complete hospitals if they have a medical or nursing school.

[wryter2000]

32. Campus health centers

I was treated by a doctor at my university

[mgardener]

50. If you ever went to the Health Center

They would have a record of that.
If you had a medical condition and live on campus, they have a medical record.
Just looked at the local university requirement.
The State of New York and SUNY Plattsburgh require that all students enrolled in six or more credits must: Be immunized against measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR); Forward a completed medical history, immunization record, and physical examination report to the center within thirty days from the first day of classes

[Skittles]

61. how do TRANS FOLK not fall under HIPAA REGS

THIS IS FUCKED UP AND THEY NEED TO *SUE*

[edisdead]

33. A walkout?

Sorry folks this type of shit is going to require something a little edgier than a walkout.

This is the shit that people fought and died for.

[bringthePaine]

34. straight up Nazi bullshit - ready the pink triangles!WTF🤨

[GGoss]

35. Sieg Heil, Asshole !!!

[barbtries]

38. How the fuck

does he get away with this shit?!

this motherfucker must be stopped.

Yes, I think you're right HIPAA would not allow this. and yet half of these institutions have already done it?!

[lanlady]

59. Depends on what info the schools provided

If they were complete medical records with the students' identifying information, then someone's in big, big trouble. If they were de-personalized, it's a different matter. Still: whatever does DeSantis plan to do with this information? Why on earth does he care? He proves again and again and again that he's just a sick creep! Fixated on drag queens and trans. Makes me think he has something in his psyche that he's trying to expunge. Ugh.

[Marthe48]

40. I'd do a transfer

to a state that identifies as American

[cilla4progress]

41. That's the way you

DO IT!

GO STUDENTS!!!!!

[JohnnyRingo]

43. I'm sure the Florida Attorney General green lit it.

So who's going to do something about it?

The ACLU needs to jump in on this, and if there's the obvious govt overreach that I see, I assume they will. Where does such intrusion end? It's like he's testing the waters to see what he can get away with.

[spanone]

44. I would immediately change to a school out of state.

[NBachers]

47. When does he start on the Zyklon B chambers?

[Warpy]

51. They are covered by HIPAA. Student health needs to tell him to go to hell

Those six universities need to be sued for privacy violations. Ron DeSatan has absolutely no grounds on which to demand any medical record of any student in the state beyond prurience and vindictiveness.

Where the hell is the FCLU?

[onenote]

56. I doubt you have sufficient information to reach such a conclusion.

HIPAA protects most “individually identifiable health information” and there are specific provisions that allow for the disclosure of information that has been "dis-identified". The schools that respond to the demand for trans-related information have stated that they did not provide any personally identifiable information. If you have information to the contrary, you should post your source.

The request for information, even on a dis-identified basis, is outrageous and should be condemned. But we do ourselves no help if we make claims about legal violations that we can't back up.

[Warpy]

58. Thanks, but he's still playing a game of "out the trans."

I did wonder if the six compliant universities were compliant because they had no trans students they were aware of. Transitioning is still very rare, although the right wing would have us believe there's a confused kid on every block being surgically mutilated at the age of ten by overbearing liberal parents.

And you're right, the fact that he's demanding medical information on adults is outrageous, decoupled from specific names or not.

[allegorical oracle]

57. So what is the gubmint proposing to do with these "dis-identified records" that they're getting?

Seems like a freakin' waste of everybody's time inasmuch as it appears to be a statistical data-collecting gambit. Maybe it's just another way for DeSatan to strut around appearing fearsome and macho to his flying monkeys.