Tesla to make billions off new federal law White House says.

[former9thward]

Tesla will open part of its proprietary Supercharger network to other kinds of vehicles for the first time, the White House said Wednesday. The move qualifies the company for a share of billions of federal dollars on offer to build a national network of electric-vehicle chargers.

Tesla plans to open at least 3,500 new and existing 250-kilowatt chargers to drivers of all kinds of EVs by the end of next year, the White House said. Fast chargers can repower cars in about 30 minutes, but those available to any kind of EV are in short supply across U.S. highways, where their presence is considered crucial to boosting EV adoption as auto makers convert fleets to electric.

Tesla already has a U.S. network of more than 17,700 fast chargers at over 1,650 locations, but in the U.S. they aren’t available to other types of vehicles. The network is popular among its drivers and widely regarded as the most reliable in an industry where finding operable equipment can be challenging. The White House said the company would triple its Supercharger network.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-to-open-some-superchargers-to-other-vehicles-white-house-says-2ed35fd5

[Autumn]

1. There really are welfare queens. Or in this case a welfare King.

I'm still waiting on my Star Link while he plays with Twitter.

[Zeitghost]

3. Are you against publicly funded EV infrastructure?

If so why?

If not, then why call it welfare?

[Autumn]

7. No I am not. How about pick a start up company instead of one worth billions

I call it welfare because that's what it is, corporate fucking welfare. If what I call it offends you scroll on by

[Zeitghost]

10. Because that is an enormous waste of tax payer money

If you want to publicly fund EV infrastructure, the smart, economical thing to do is start with the biggest network currently online and running.


I don't care what you call it, I'm just trying to understand the odd position of being for it and against it at the same time. Most people who support publicly funded infrastructure projects don't refer to them as "corporate fucking welfare".

[Autumn]

11. Yeah just like oil companies and their subsidies. That's works out well for us.

Like I said, scroll on by.

[Zeitghost]

12. So you're against them then?

n/t

[global1]

2. I Know Very Little About EV, Charging Them And Charging Stations - Dumb Questions.....

When one hooks up to a charging station to charge your vehicle - do you have to pay for the hook-up and charge and how does one do that? If there is a monetary payment - what is it? Is it like buying gas at a gas station?

I did say I had some dumb questions.

[Zeitghost]

4. Just like a gas pump

Swipe your card and start charging.

[Silent3]

5. I'm not sure all of the Tesla-specific chargers are equipped like that

You also need an adapter to plug a non-Tesla vehicle into a Tesla-specific charger.

[Zeitghost]

6. I was only speaking to the payment

Which seemed to be the focus of the post I was responding to.

[Silent3]

9. I think that the Tesla chargers don't have any place to swipe a card

I think your Tesla is recognized just by plugging into the charger, which would obviously be a Telsa-specific feature. The charging stations might need to be retrofitted for billing others? I'm not sure.

[Zeitghost]

13. You're correct

You setup payments through an app with Tesla and then it recognizes the car when you plug in. So swipe wasn't quite accurate, at least not at the moment with those chargers.

[global1]

14. So A Follow-Up Question On Charging....

How are you charged (money/cost wise) for using a charging station? What does it cost? Is it cheaper than gas? If so - is this their way of getting you hooked on EV's and when most people have them - will the cost go up?

I'm thinking about when we were introduced to pay TV/Cable. At first it was cheap - no commercials - and then when they had a critical mass of subscribers - they started to raise the prices and added commercials.

Is this how it's going to be as we move from fossil fuels to electric?

[tinrobot]

8. As with everything, it depends. There are several methods.

Many have credit card readers, but some don't (most notably, Tesla).

Almost all chargers have apps or key cards that activate the charge session.

Some (including Tesla) do plug and charge. The charger asks the car itself for an ID and uses that to initiate the charge. Moving forward, this will probably be the preferred method.