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LuckyCharms

(22,648 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 09:30 AM Feb 2023

Concerning Fetterman, I'd like to say something.

Last edited Sat Feb 18, 2023, 07:04 AM - Edit history (2)

I'd generally vote for someone who has made it through major depression (or continues to fight it) vs. voting for just about anyone else. The same goes for people who have faced enormous heartache in their lives (ie: Joe Biden's familial losses).

I've battled major depression officially for 24 years, and was most likely undiagnosed for many years before that.

It never really goes away, but once it is controlled, you're a better and stronger person than you ever thought you were. When your depression is controlled, after having it for many years, you see the world differently. You see people differently. You're more empathetic to the plight of others. You're stronger, and you're wiser. You're gentler. You made it through the worst battle of your life, and you carry a sense of pride for making it through that battle.

In short, you become a better human being, or maybe you just recognize and take pride in the fact that you always were a great human being, only you never recognized it before.

I encourage anyone suffering with depression to seek treatment. I encourage you to understand that how you view yourself while depressed is not how others see you. You are valuable, and you are only feeling the way you do because you have an illness. And that illness results in your brain trying to kill you. That's all depression is, in obvious layman's terms.

People who have depression travel to hell and back quite frequently. They are strong people, and they deserve our high respect, not our pity. And the people who succumb to the ravages of this illness deserve our high respect as well, because it was an illness that killed them, just like other illnesses sometimes kill.

Depressed people are not crazy. Quite the opposite in fact. Depression is an illness like any other, and the supposed "stigma" that some people equate to it is misinformed bullshit.

Fetterman has recovered from a stroke, he takes things to heart, and he's been under tremendous stress. I think he's going to be alright. He's doing what he needs to do to mend himself. And I think he will prove to be a tremendously talented senator. And if it happens that his depression treatment does not improve his condition to the point where he can work, it's our loss, but he will still be a person to be loved and admired.

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Concerning Fetterman, I'd like to say something. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Feb 2023 OP
I couldn't agree more! SheltieLover Feb 2023 #1
it has so little to do w your life. mopinko Feb 2023 #2
Mine is due to small vessel disease in the brain caused from LuckyCharms Feb 2023 #3
boy me too. mopinko Feb 2023 #4
Damn, don't I know this. lark Feb 2023 #6
holy shit. i'm so sorry. mopinko Feb 2023 #9
Thanks mopinko. lark Feb 2023 #17
being out in front of medical science is a pita! mopinko Feb 2023 #19
Exercise and a new puppy would cure a great many ills, glad you have these resources. lark Feb 2023 #20
Cannabis is a wonder drug, takes care of so much. Glad it helps you! JudyM Feb 2023 #42
Agreed wholeheartedly. calimary Feb 2023 #59
First, to everyone who opened up about their struggles. . . Collimator Feb 2023 #68
I WISH! lark Feb 2023 #77
Exactly. My mother suffered several strokes and was put on antidepressants because of the stroke Native Feb 2023 #14
My FIL needed anti-depressants for the first time after a stroke at 70. deurbano Feb 2023 #33
Same here JanLip Feb 2023 #78
Winston Churchill had his "Black Dog" Botany Feb 2023 #5
In his case, alcohol no doubt aggravated it peppertree Feb 2023 #37
A woman once told Churchill that if all the booze he drank it would flood the big room they were ... Botany Feb 2023 #45
Ha! peppertree Feb 2023 #46
President Obama laughed @ his looks all the time Botany Feb 2023 #54
Aww peppertree Feb 2023 #55
Here you go. Obama: Children like me Botany Feb 2023 #65
Thanks. Now I remember. peppertree Feb 2023 #66
Admitting you have a mental health problem and promptly seeking qualified Jarqui Feb 2023 #7
I'm Proud To Have Voted For Him cstamm53 Feb 2023 #8
Thank you for sharing that post! LittleGirl Feb 2023 #10
Hugs back to you, Little Girl. LuckyCharms Feb 2023 #13
I saw a therapist for depression and am on an anti-depressant that works well for me. brewens Feb 2023 #11
I used to drink quite a bit, but gave it up. LuckyCharms Feb 2023 #16
I saw a quote from Frida Kahlo yesterday: Pinback Feb 2023 #71
All of you: yes, this. It runs all thru my mom's side of my family, onset somewhere in middle age Hekate Feb 2023 #12
He will heal and will be an excellent senator. Emile Feb 2023 #15
Amen to that Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #18
Fetterman's honesty will help us move forward in de-stigmatizing treatment for depression dlk Feb 2023 #21
My thoughts exactly. Thank you! cornball 24 Feb 2023 #32
I have high hopes for Senator Fetterman, as so many do dlk Feb 2023 #43
Senator Fetterman is a man of and for the people. Having an MBA from University of Connecticut cornball 24 Feb 2023 #49
Senator Fetterman will get his ebullience back Marthe48 Feb 2023 #22
K&R for, thanks. UTUSN Feb 2023 #23
One of the better posts on DU. Depression makes life difficult one victim at a time. twodogsbarking Feb 2023 #24
Beautifully put! Goddessartist Feb 2023 #25
Thanks for sharing @LuckyCharms. n/t iluvtennis Feb 2023 #26
This may have been posted but it is worth repeating. The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #27
I Was About To Say This Same Thing... GB_RN Feb 2023 #29
Thank you Wild blueberry Feb 2023 #28
Thank you for this post and KPN Feb 2023 #30
Well said! CaptainTruth Feb 2023 #31
Thank you so much for this. ancianita Feb 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author peppertree Feb 2023 #35
K&R spanone Feb 2023 #36
With John Fetterman, you get the real deal. lees1975 Feb 2023 #38
Wonderful post LuckyCharms. Thank you. c-rational Feb 2023 #39
I think he's ultimately an optimist, so I think he'll be good once he's treated judesedit Feb 2023 #40
Proud of Fetterman NowISeetheLight Feb 2023 #41
Here's my comment from a nursing standpont. Jilly_in_VA Feb 2023 #44
Millions of Americans are rooting for you, Senator. LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #47
I would certainly vote for him if I lived in Ohio wryter2000 Feb 2023 #48
Thank-you happy feet Feb 2023 #50
I hope people will stop using mentally ill as a slur iemanja Feb 2023 #51
THANK YOU, LuckyCharms and all. This is a thread for us ALL to appreciate. elleng Feb 2023 #52
Great post wendyb-NC Feb 2023 #53
I echo the thanks to Lucky Charms and all those posting summer_in_TX Feb 2023 #56
Outstanding post. K&R mvd Feb 2023 #57
K&R MustLoveBeagles Feb 2023 #58
I admire Fetterman for seeking help. hamsterjill Feb 2023 #60
He has a very special opportunity to lead. calimary Feb 2023 #61
Thanks for this POV, it was encouraging to read. JudyM Feb 2023 #62
thanks! beautifully stated! bluboid Feb 2023 #63
So well said. Thanks for posting this, LuckyCharms, crickets Feb 2023 #64
Also I recall an account of orientation IbogaProject Feb 2023 #67
Fetterman is a better man! Mopar151 Feb 2023 #69
LuckyCharms........ Upthevibe Feb 2023 #70
I just want to sleep all the time when I go through my bouts. RandySF Feb 2023 #72
Spot on...on so many levels. FirstLight Feb 2023 #73
Beautifully put! MetalMama Feb 2023 #74
I'm so glad you're here to tell your story, and that you have your daughter to talk to. Therapy was chia Feb 2023 #75
Beautiful post and thread, thank you for every beautiful word of your OP and the replies to it. chia Feb 2023 #76
Thank you Lucky for posting this. It needed to be said. debm55 Feb 2023 #79

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
2. it has so little to do w your life.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 09:38 AM
Feb 2023

i’ve battled it off and on myself. starting the crawl out of the hole of the last few yrs.
thing is, it wasnt my life that was a problem. it was a subtle autoimmune disease, and lasting crap from a head injury.
dont assume someone is suffering from bad life choices or troubles in this plane. i knew right away it was connected to the stroke.

brains r so complicated. u cant assume a damn thing.

LuckyCharms

(22,648 posts)
3. Mine is due to small vessel disease in the brain caused from
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 09:44 AM
Feb 2023

juvenile diabetes.

It doesn't affect my cognitive abilities, but it did cause my depression.

I'm a firm believer that most depression has a physical cause which impacts the brain in any number of ways.

I wish you the best, mopinko.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
4. boy me too.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 09:53 AM
Feb 2023

we must stop treating it as it’s own disease and realize it’s a symptom for many of us.
the most disruption it has caused in my life is the belief that it’s life that’s the prob, and i should change it.
best to u too lc.

lark

(26,081 posts)
6. Damn, don't I know this.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 09:58 AM
Feb 2023

I had 2 head traumas within a 6 week period, it severely pinched my spinal cord in 3 places so had to have neck surgery and was very near death. The long time worst part, though, was my head. I broke both occipital nerves and had blinding headaches every time I was in the light outside. My head & eyes hurt so bad, I had trouble thinking and could not drive. So 4-1/2 years later, I can be in the sun with strong sunglasses and feel mostly normal, but not quite as sharp as before. I still get headaches that last for days when I go outside and get too much light in my eyes. Right now the 2 sides of my head are throbbing from getting the cat inside without glasses on first. And this was at 8 am. Damn!

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
9. holy shit. i'm so sorry.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:08 AM
Feb 2023

mine was as a kid, head bashed w a baseball bat. an accident.
didnt figure out til about 10 yrs ago that the hallucinations i had as a kid were seizures. had them for a decade.
it wasnt til late 2019 that hi dose edibles cleared up a laundry list of little shit that i always just thought was just me. like tripping over my own 2 feet. and muscle spasms that caused pain and a flat voice. it’s been weird.

i hope there’s some hope out there for you to keep improving. hang in there.

lark

(26,081 posts)
17. Thanks mopinko.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:22 AM
Feb 2023

Man, accidents can really mess you up, guess we are lucky the body heals as well as it does or we both might be goners. Also thankful for the helpfullness of some pot and pot products. I don't think my head nerves will get any better at this point, I just have to get better at managing it and always remember to put on sunglasses before I go outside. I also got a very large non-slip mat for the bathroom & one for the shower so haven't fallen since I had the 2 incidents in 2019.

Hopefully both of us can manage our brain symptoms and thrive!

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
19. being out in front of medical science is a pita!
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:31 AM
Feb 2023

watching all the docs looking at long covid and going- oh, post viral bullshit is REAL!
shit rly went off the cliff in 2002 when i got west nile. the side eye from the docs can b as bad as the symptoms.

but virtuous cycles r a thing. getting rid of the muscle cramps meant my yoga practice was finally solid. i still occasionally get cramps in my toes, which makes yoga rly hard, but it used to make it impossible some days. and i dont get the blow back the next day.
exercise and a new puppy have me in a pretty good place atm.

lark

(26,081 posts)
20. Exercise and a new puppy would cure a great many ills, glad you have these resources.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:36 AM
Feb 2023

My walks with my husband & dog every morning, physical therapy exercises a few times a week, 3 fur babies and smoking pot in the afternoon & evening make life a lot better than it would otherwise be.

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
42. Cannabis is a wonder drug, takes care of so much. Glad it helps you!
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 12:55 PM
Feb 2023

The feds should be pouring money into studying it, especially for neurological conditions. I gave it to my parents for dementia (one to help with dementia and cancer, the other to prevent dementia… even though the science is still out).

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
68. First, to everyone who opened up about their struggles. . .
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 08:31 PM
Feb 2023

Much appreciation and respect.

To lark, I have to ask, can you see ghosts now? (It's sort of the premise of a current TV show.)

Again, my heart goes to everyone who struggles with depression and other mental health challenges. I often feel broken and useless, and it never helps when some people suggest, even subtly, that maybe I'm just a teeny bit lazy. There was a time in my life when I was always happy to do whatever I could for others. Now, there are spans of days or weeks when I can barely manage the most basic functions for myself.

Just saw this smilie--boy, there are times when it just like this: (The cross doesn't quite work for me though.)

Native

(7,359 posts)
14. Exactly. My mother suffered several strokes and was put on antidepressants because of the stroke
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:15 AM
Feb 2023

related depression. We were told that it is very common for stroke victims to suffer from depression, and that it is definitely tied to the damage from the stroke.

deurbano

(2,986 posts)
33. My FIL needed anti-depressants for the first time after a stroke at 70.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 11:44 AM
Feb 2023

Except for the depression, the stroke mostly caused significant physical limitations, and he was mentally sharp (to the extent Fox viewers can be considered "sharp" ) until he died at 91. He was always a selfish, cranky asshole, too (before and after the stroke)... except for a brief period (a year or two) right after the stroke. We thought maybe he'd finally developed an appreciation for others (and their support), but that was short lived.

JanLip

(862 posts)
78. Same here
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:52 AM
Feb 2023

My dad suffered a major stroke in 1964. He was paralyzed on his right side and could not speak. He would have bouts of crying and you could see by his expressions that he was so depressed. His doctor prescribed an antidepressant and within a few short weeks his demeanor changed dramatically. After that he was a joy to his whole family. He lived for nine more years and I miss him to this day. I also suffer from depression and take an antidepressant. Made all the difference in my life.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
5. Winston Churchill had his "Black Dog"
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 09:58 AM
Feb 2023

As did Abe Lincoln and they got a hell of a lot
done too. Just for what Senator Fetterman and his
spouse got done for the hurting people and communities
in post industrial PA they are success stories. I'll take
the big guy in the black sweat shirt with his medical/bio-
chemical fluxes over some shit like Josh Holly any day.

Thanx for Posting.



https://ibpf.org/winston-churchill-and-mental-illness/


There is real greatness in that man. read his wiki page






Botany

(77,323 posts)
45. A woman once told Churchill that if all the booze he drank it would flood the big room they were ...
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 01:42 PM
Feb 2023

.... up to 8' up on the wall. Winston noted that the ceilings were 20' feet high and said something like,
"Thank you. Think of all the more room I will have to go to make it to the top."

peppertree

(23,342 posts)
46. Ha!
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:12 PM
Feb 2023

Whatever his foibles, Churchill knew how to laugh at himself - which always helps with depression (and so much else!).

That said, alcohol's probably the worst thing for depression - and so much else.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
54. President Obama laughed @ his looks all the time
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 04:54 PM
Feb 2023

He once said that little kids are his demographic sweet spot because
with his big ears and long face he looked like a cartoon character.

Now Trump really is bat shit crazy because he pays money to look like some kind of freak. How could anybody dress and get made up like he does and look into the mirror and say, "Now that is a good look?"



peppertree

(23,342 posts)
55. Aww
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 05:06 PM
Feb 2023

I had never heard that Obama quote - but it's both sweet and funny.

His way of saying: "Don't let having 'different' looks limit you in any way."

As for Cheeto - he goes to show that there are few things more laughable than a buffoon, but with an attitude.

Like the Nazis in Hogan's Heroes.

He knew Nazing.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
65. Here you go. Obama: Children like me
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 07:33 PM
Feb 2023

Obama: Children like me

By BYRON TAU

01/06/2012 02:28 PM EST

Via CBS's Mark Knoller, President Obama took a little time to chat about kids over lunch today with the winners of a campaign contest.

"I do very well with that demographic," he said. "They think I look like a cartoon character with big ears."

https://www.politico.com/blogs/politico44/2012/01/obama-children-like-me-109875

BTW President Obama might have taken years off his life meeting w/all the Sandy Hook Parents and the Families of the
Teachers who had their loved ones killed @ Christmas. He went all grey in under a month after that. He would be briefed
about who was coming in to see him and then meet w/them and after 3 or so visits he would go out to the hall and cry,
smoke a cigarette, and then pull himself together to meet more of the families.

peppertree

(23,342 posts)
66. Thanks. Now I remember.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 07:43 PM
Feb 2023

It around then that I realized that yes, he probably would be re-elected.

Especially after watching the clown car that had been unfolding on the GOP side.

The 2012 GOP clown car was probably their first "modern" nomination fight - in the sense that, for the first time, most of the cast were real, unreconstructed fascists of the kind that utterly dominates the party now.

They were very lucky in 2012: they ended up with Romney.

No such luck now.

They'll be lucky to end up with someone who doesn't openly advocate violence (but only privately).

Jarqui

(10,908 posts)
7. Admitting you have a mental health problem and promptly seeking qualified
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 09:59 AM
Feb 2023

medical help is the right thing to do and far more likely to result in a good outcome than being MTG/Sarah Palin ignorant and doing nothing about it.

That's the low bar for comparison.

Fetterman strikes me as one of the most decent members of Congress.
Congress and the country needs him healthy.
I'm sorry he's going through this and wish him the best.

Doing what he is going, the odds are he'll be ok and able to resume his life.

A bunch on the other side seem to need some sort of mental health treatment and are not going for it.

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
10. Thank you for sharing that post!
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:10 AM
Feb 2023

You really captured how I feels about the subject of depression. My Mother was depressed most of her life and it affected our relationship. I have had therapy twice and the only reason I don’t have one now is because the medication didn’t help and my therapist was terrible. Sending cyber hugs your way.

LuckyCharms

(22,648 posts)
13. Hugs back to you, Little Girl.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:14 AM
Feb 2023

I spent my entire teenage years calling to my mother through her closed bedroom door. She locked herself in there for months. I thought she was mad at me.

Then one day I realized that she wasn't mad at me, she was sick with depression. I got her some help, and she lived a long life.

I miss her...she was an incredible woman.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
11. I saw a therapist for depression and am on an anti-depressant that works well for me.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:13 AM
Feb 2023

I had problems with getting seriously depressed when reminded of some heartbreaking events in the past.

I told my therapist that part of my inspirations for seeking help was The Sopranos. If Tony could see a "shrink", I figured next time I hit a rough patch, I would ask to see a therapist. It was a good idea.

I'm on Celexa and one unexpected effect is I don't seem to want to drink. I saw it is also used to treat alcoholism. I don't drink very often but every few months I like to walk to one of the bars within range and have a few. I think about it and just decide I don't really feel like it. Kind of weird but I guess it saves me a little money and a hangover.

LuckyCharms

(22,648 posts)
16. I used to drink quite a bit, but gave it up.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:16 AM
Feb 2023

I was on so many brain drugs that drinking made me sick, so I just stopped drinking.

Now, I don't take any brain drugs, and still don't drink. No desire to, don't miss it.

Best wishes to you.

Pinback

(13,600 posts)
71. I saw a quote from Frida Kahlo yesterday:
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 11:21 PM
Feb 2023

“I drank to drown my sorrows, but the damned things learned how to swim.”


Beautiful OP, and a great thread. Thank you.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
12. All of you: yes, this. It runs all thru my mom's side of my family, onset somewhere in middle age
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:13 AM
Feb 2023

So my sis and I were the ones in our immediate family who got fratzed. She also got the severe social anxiety disorder that curtailed our uncle’s career — curtailed her career as well.

A couple of years back we had a phone chat about the Black Dog, and I told her it has its own doggy door in my house — which made her laugh.


dlk

(13,247 posts)
21. Fetterman's honesty will help us move forward in de-stigmatizing treatment for depression
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:37 AM
Feb 2023

Despite Republicans’ sadistic efforts to drag us backward into false stereotypes and mass ignorance. I applaud his bravery and wish him well in his recovery

dlk

(13,247 posts)
43. I have high hopes for Senator Fetterman, as so many do
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 01:08 PM
Feb 2023

He’s not afraid to do the hard work and as welcome, much-needed voice in the senate, he will be great!

cornball 24

(1,580 posts)
49. Senator Fetterman is a man of and for the people. Having an MBA from University of Connecticut
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:43 PM
Feb 2023

and MPP from Harvard is pretty darn impressive as well. For the first time in quite awhile, I see Pennsylvania heading in the right direction.

Goddessartist

(2,176 posts)
25. Beautifully put!
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:58 AM
Feb 2023

I've been hospitalized for depression, and a heart attack just over 6 months ago, and am just the past week feeling almost normal again. It's difficult sometimes to reach out for help, but it's so important. I admire him very much, and agree with everything you have said.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
27. This may have been posted but it is worth repeating.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 11:08 AM
Feb 2023

Depression is common after stroke, affecting approximately one third of stroke survivors at any one time after stroke! Only 5-15% of the general population suffers depression.

The only thing I do not understand is why he told anyone the reason for being admitted. It really is none of our business.


GB_RN

(3,560 posts)
29. I Was About To Say This Same Thing...
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 11:27 AM
Feb 2023

Also very common after a heart attack. A good cardiologist will prescribe an antidepressant or refer his patient to a behavioral health specialist.

KPN

(17,376 posts)
30. Thank you for this post and
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 11:33 AM
Feb 2023

bless your heart Lucky Charm and everyone who posted on this thread. Not only Fetterman, but DUers are amazingly wise, strong, and good people.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
34. Thank you so much for this.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 11:59 AM
Feb 2023

Even when chemicals cause depression, often that comes from experiencing, even witnessing trauma, loss, and grief.

My old therapist: "There are two kinds of people in the world -- those who have problems and know it, and those who have problems and don't know it."

Krishnamurti says: "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

The caste stresses, and the loss, harm, and damage that ripple out to us should be zeroed in on, rather than just the depressed persons who are appropriately responding. No one chooses to be depressed because of chemical imbalance or societal sicknesses.

But many who adapt to a sickened, weakened society end up sicker by many measures than the depressed -- they choose to focus on the causes of depression in others, even project, rather than "look in the mirror" as Swalwell told Republicans. They choose easy judgment of those more attuned to the whole of reality than they.
They prolong the sick society and others' suffering.

Your encouragement makes humanity progress. Thank you.



Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
38. With John Fetterman, you get the real deal.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 12:25 PM
Feb 2023

No image, no phony smile, no pretending, no posturing. I lived in the Pittsburgh area when he was the Mayor of Braddock, and when he says he's working for the people, that's what he means and what he does. When he was Lieutenant Governor, he was the guy to whom the voters related and the go-to guy for the Governor who credited Fetterman with his very successful two-terms in the teeth of a Republican controlled legislature. I think one of the reasons he was so successful in this Senate campaign is that when his opponent attacked what he perceived to be his weakness, which was his speaking ability after his stroke, he attacked exactly what was attracting voters to Fetterman.

He's the kind of "man of the people" that Trumpies try to make out of Trump, but fail miserably. Fetterman is a true populist.

I wish him a speedy recovery and a successful senate career.

judesedit

(4,592 posts)
40. I think he's ultimately an optimist, so I think he'll be good once he's treated
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 12:41 PM
Feb 2023

Thank you writing this. I had depression for many years when younger, found the treatment good for me and am no longer using anti depressents and couldn't be more stable or happier now. Like you, I didn't even realize I was depressed. Mine was caused by a biological default in my brain with my nerve cells not transmitting and receiving efficiently. I'm so glad Senator Fetterman didn't ignore it.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
41. Proud of Fetterman
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 12:54 PM
Feb 2023

Depression is insidious. Three years ago now I had to stop working. In my mid 50s with a great career going, it finally caught up with me. While my PTSD from the service ended me up on VA 100% Disability and SSDI, the Major Depression is the worst. Decades of on and off treatment and all they can do is call it "treatment resistant." I'd try Ketamine if the VA offered it where I live. Just the other day I was very low and had thoughts that were very dark, my dog snapped me out of it and my weekly therapist appointment helped. Even did some crying.

I'm really proud of Senator Fetterman. Going public about something so personal is brave. He will show people that mental health is nothing to be embarrassed about. Whatever the reason for his depression, from family to health to trauma, whatever is underlying it, he's doing a service for all Americans. He is showing even someone battling something like this can do something and contribute. Good for him.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
44. Here's my comment from a nursing standpont.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 01:35 PM
Feb 2023

A stroke is a head injury, just as much as if someone took a ball bat and hit him upside the head. People who have head injuries are prone to depression. Sen. Fetterman seeking treatment for depression is not a sign of weakness, but a sign of STRENGTH. He was strong enough to know he needed help. Go Jawn!

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
48. I would certainly vote for him if I lived in Ohio
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:29 PM
Feb 2023

Think of all the idiots in Congress who need psychiatric help but deny there's anything wrong with them. Those are the people to keep out of office.

wendyb-NC

(4,691 posts)
53. Great post
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 04:30 PM
Feb 2023

You are so right.

I'm rooting for John, he cares deeply about the things that this country faces, and beyond. He wants to uphold our democracy, and make life better for all. I hope he gets excellent care and treatment and is able to manage it well in the future, so he can move forward with his hopes and plans as a senator.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
56. I echo the thanks to Lucky Charms and all those posting
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 05:42 PM
Feb 2023

on this thread. Compassionate, wise, encouraging.


I don't know if anyone caught Jason Kander being interviewed on PBS about Fetterman's announcement. He has been dealing with his own depression, in his case caused by PTSD. I've been a fan of his for awhile. Not that what he says holds a candle to Lucky Charms' post here from his own personal experience, but it does reinforce it.

Couldn't find just a clip of that interview, but of the whole hour. This should start in the right place. But stop it when that interview is done.

https://www.youtube.com/live/cgVIVpBMIdI?feature=share&t=2406

mvd

(65,912 posts)
57. Outstanding post. K&R
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 05:51 PM
Feb 2023

My best wishes to Senator Fetterman. He did the right thing and he should just take the time to get better. That is his focus.

Depression is terrible and hard. My mom has it. I never was a depressive person but now get bouts of it due to what my mom and I have been through. Your post is very encouraging.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
60. I admire Fetterman for seeking help.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 06:27 PM
Feb 2023

I hope he will do what is necessary to be healthy again, both physically and mentally. I am certain that it took a LOT of strength to admit he needed help especially being an elected official and in the public eye.

That said, treatment is not usually quick and easy and it may very well be that the best thing for him is to concentrate on his recovery. It may be that holding office is too much to deal with at this point in his life. That’s just reality and it may or may not come to that. Whatever the answer, he needs to do what is necessary to be whole.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
61. He has a very special opportunity to lead.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 06:28 PM
Feb 2023

He’s been open about this. Hasn’t tried to hide it. That’s a good thing.

He can be the proof of survival, and of recovery. Of triumph over adversity. He is uniquely position to inspire. It’s a gift - even if a back-handed one. I hope he makes wise use of it.

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
62. Thanks for this POV, it was encouraging to read.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 07:02 PM
Feb 2023

“… results in your brain trying to kill you.” Powerful statement.
We need more research into this… there’s damned too much siphoning of tax dollars by republicans.

Appreciate your openness/truth and wishing you continued positivity!

crickets

(26,168 posts)
64. So well said. Thanks for posting this, LuckyCharms,
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 07:17 PM
Feb 2023

and thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
67. Also I recall an account of orientation
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 07:47 PM
Feb 2023

I recall an account of orientation for new DC legislators and the focus from day one is fundraising and how to court lobbyist. So maybe that on top of his health challenges and maybe just the rough big city life. Way more hectic than Harrisburg. I wish him well.

Mopar151

(10,348 posts)
69. Fetterman is a better man!
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 08:35 PM
Feb 2023

If we are talking mimums, DaMan iin s medically induced coma is a better man than Ted Cruz dressed for business

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
73. Spot on...on so many levels.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 05:27 AM
Feb 2023

It's the ones who have endured despite the odds. The ones who know what it's like to be at the end of the last thread and somehow find their way back..that is the stuff that breaks down all those beliefs and judgements.

While I dont wish trauma and despair on those in power who are privileged...wait, yes I do.


Yeah, I wish Senator Fetterman the best - And when he comes out of the other side may he be a force to be reckoned with for those who have mental health issues across all spectrums.

MetalMama

(83 posts)
74. Beautifully put!
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 05:29 AM
Feb 2023

I've been at war with major depression my entire adult life (I'm 63). My first suicide attempt was at 17, the last one at 50. I've been undiagnosed, misdiagnosed, and finally correctly diagnosed.

I've been on Celexa for 12 years and, it has literally saved my life. I wouldn't be here otherwise. Talk therapy has been pretty hit or miss. I am no longer trying to find a therapist. Fortunately, my daughter has a degree in psychology and is always willing to talk with me.

There's a terrific video of a lecture on depression by Professor Robert Sapolsky at Stanford. He explains many of the different aspects of depression. He even talks about someone who had a heart attack and then developed depression. I watch the video every few years just to remind myself that I'm not a failure or crazy.

To anyone who is suffering; keep fighting; you are not alone; you are valuable!

chia

(2,817 posts)
75. I'm so glad you're here to tell your story, and that you have your daughter to talk to. Therapy was
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 07:37 AM
Feb 2023

so helpful for me, because I unloaded a lifetime on a non-judgmental person unrelated to me, so I could say everything I wanted to say that I could never have said to a family member, since a good chunk of my difficulties pre-diagnosed depression were relationship-related. I also had a serious head injury, and have never considered a connection. Mine was triggered (I think) by tremendous grief. I'm doing okay these days, but life never looked the same to me again. I love Sapolsky, I have a couple of his books but haven't seen his video on depression, so thank you for mentioning it and I'll look for it. Best of everything to you.

chia

(2,817 posts)
76. Beautiful post and thread, thank you for every beautiful word of your OP and the replies to it.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 07:41 AM
Feb 2023

You are all worthy of high respect, and deepest appreciation.

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