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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:44 AM Feb 2023

I wonder, Will Willis use RICO charges to nail the traitors.

She has used it before so she has experience. From what I have read about RICO you target the group not the individual. A conspiracy. A pattern of the group who are committing crimes covered under RICO laws. Georgia has their own RICO laws. It covers a wide array of possible charges. You basically just have to prove a conspiracy took place. There was definitely a pattern of a group of people trying to illegally over turn the election in Georgia.

It may be easier to nail Trump as part of a group, conspiracy. Instead of trying to nail him as an individual.

It will be interesting to see how she handles this, stay tuned.

Willis has been investigating Trump and the coup plotters. We now know she is going to indict people. It is fair to say she is going to indict the coup plotters. We don't who, how many, what the charges are. But the writing is on the wall.

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I wonder, Will Willis use RICO charges to nail the traitors. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Feb 2023 OP
NOT indicting Trump as part of a RICO charge would be entirely illogical. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2023 #1
... LexVegas Feb 2023 #2
there are voices who question whether she will indict trump at all as an individual..... getagrip_already Feb 2023 #3
Do you have links to info in GA RICO laws? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #4
Google fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #5
Found this. Not sure it works for tfg. Perhaps the OP can elaborate? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #7
Ah, so we are cool with NOT indicting tfg now. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #6
HUH? fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #8
Feel free to call me defeatist Mr. fightforfreedom.. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #9
When people declare no one will be indicted before the investigations are finished. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #11
Sure thing. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #14
Conspiracy NowISeetheLight Feb 2023 #10
RICO is a federal law, is it not? NewJeffCT Feb 2023 #12
Read my OP again. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #13
Links please? nt BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #15
Defeatist. nt LexVegas Feb 2023 #16
Links to what? fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #17

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
1. NOT indicting Trump as part of a RICO charge would be entirely illogical.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 10:57 AM
Feb 2023

IMO, it simply can't be done without gross incompetency at all levels. Willis hired RICO specialists as assistant prosecutors. RICO is designed to indict "ring leaders" who, under other circumstances, can evade the law because evidence doesn't reach the standard for criminal convictions as individual actors. Trump's money can allow him to bob and weave until the cows come home IF he's investigated as an individual. RICO laws make it much harder. So EXPECT a Trump indictment.

I suspect that, with over 70 million people voting for Trump in the last general election, prosecutors have been stealthily engaged in a public education process in which the public gradually ACCEPTS Trump's guilt and the need for him to be punished by the Courts. While many of us have been ready for years, tens of millions are going to feel alarmed and even enraged that their autocratic and fascist leader could end up sitting in a cell until he croaks. All of the prosecutorial delays serve to slowly spoon-feed those tens of millions a steady diet of "Trump is a criminal" memes so that they are not hit broadside with a public announcement that Trump is a defendant in multiple felony charges.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
3. there are voices who question whether she will indict trump at all as an individual.....
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 11:31 AM
Feb 2023

His individual acts, while damning, may not be technically illegal under ga law (not my opinion, just others opinion).

If she does construct a conspiracy, then he could more easily be included since he becomes responsible for the acts of others under his influence.

It may be a requirement to indict him at all.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,478 posts)
4. Do you have links to info in GA RICO laws?
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 12:14 PM
Feb 2023

If indicting on GA RICO laws is as easy as just “proving a conspiracy took place”, then why not indict for conspiracy?

Federal RICO laws are incredibly complex and rarely used criminally, and frequently abused civilly, so much so that judges often dismiss RICO civil suits out of hand.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
7. Found this. Not sure it works for tfg. Perhaps the OP can elaborate?
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 12:30 PM
Feb 2023

The Georgia RICO Act makes it a crime for any person, through a pattern of racketeering activity or proceeds derived therefrom, to acquire or maintain, directly or indirectly, any interest in or control of any enterprise, real property, or personal property of any nature, including money.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
8. HUH?
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 12:55 PM
Feb 2023

Your post is bizarre. Believe me, I understand you are defeatist. You attack any positive posts I write. You don't have to prove it to me any more. I understand.

You don't believe Trump and the coup plotters will be indicted. I get it.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
11. When people declare no one will be indicted before the investigations are finished.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 01:35 PM
Feb 2023

That is the definition of defeatists. I am stating a fact that is all.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
10. Conspiracy
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 01:32 PM
Feb 2023

I'm no lawyer but I think these organized antics rise to the level of a criminal conspiracy. Mafioso Don should be the FIRST one indicted.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
12. RICO is a federal law, is it not?
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 01:41 PM
Feb 2023

Unless Georgia has similar laws on their books, I don't think Fani Willis can use RICO.

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