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gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:10 PM Feb 2023

Trump Was A Genius

Why? Because he used lawyers, politicians, and cabinet members to commit crimes for him. We have an AG who is an institutionalist who will weigh what an indictment would do to the institution. It is why he indicted Steve Bannon (nothing to Trump) and Peter Navarro (just a trade advisor) and wouldn't indict Mark Meadows (Chief of Staff) and Dan Scavino. (Deputy Chief of staff)

Using those people also made it hard to get through subpoenas which fell into Trump's strategy of delay.

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Trump Was A Genius (Original Post) gab13by13 Feb 2023 OP
No, He's Not, He's Grossly Entitled and Privileged His Whole Life Beetwasher. Feb 2023 #1
Absolutely. Spot on analysis. brush Feb 2023 #35
Oh boy! Another Trump invincible thread. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #2
Gaetz is iemanja Feb 2023 #39
He does what every narcissist does - he uses people. He learned this watching his dad and the mob. Runningdawg Feb 2023 #3
This poster is correct. republianmushroom Feb 2023 #4
I had to cut my thread short, I had company.. gab13by13 Feb 2023 #5
Who hired Jack Smith, he must be a genius too. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #13
Maybe Garland got tired of reading my posts? 😁 gab13by13 Feb 2023 #18
Genius???.. agingdem Feb 2023 #6
Trump is no genius. Please.... panader0 Feb 2023 #7
It doesn't make him a "genius" - it makes him a mob boss FakeNoose Feb 2023 #8
That's what a mob boss does Meadowoak Feb 2023 #9
Mob leaders never kill people Takket Feb 2023 #10
hair furhair commits tax frauds over tax frauds for decades... Justice matters. Feb 2023 #40
Calling Trump a genius is one of the craziest things I have ever heard. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #11
Your last sentence is perfect. "Trump without money is an imbecile." brush Feb 2023 #34
Your post is incomplete Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #12
In your rush to blast Garland. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #16
Also an obsession with Adam Schiff, gab13by13 Feb 2023 #21
Are you losing your mind? fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #23
Schiff doesn't know any more than you or I do Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #27
Not much left to be discovered, gab13by13 Feb 2023 #19
That is inaccurate. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #20
Your certainty that all is known is quite amusing Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #26
Post removed Post removed Feb 2023 #28
Gaslight much? Your post is disgraceful. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #33
The words "Trump" and "genius" should never be used together. nt Laffy Kat Feb 2023 #14
Except Donnie personally commits crimes left and right as well unblock Feb 2023 #15
Remember when I told you I was trying to help you. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #17
His strategy was working, gab13by13 Feb 2023 #22
You don't acknowledge my post. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #25
So, discovery wasn't an issue, gab13by13 Feb 2023 #24
I am concerned about you. I am going to let you be. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #29
Promise? Because your posts saying another poster is losing his mind Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #31
Nah, just a bum who had money to hire lawyers/fixers. brush Feb 2023 #30
No Keepthesoulalive Feb 2023 #32
GMAFB we can do it Feb 2023 #36
I think Roy Cohn was the genius. Tfg is just his well-trained monkey. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #37
I don't necessarily disagree with your statement. hamsterjill Feb 2023 #38

Beetwasher.

(3,178 posts)
1. No, He's Not, He's Grossly Entitled and Privileged His Whole Life
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:13 PM
Feb 2023

And he's been protected by lawyers and loopholes, there's nothing genius about it. It's low cunning and a propensity to be completely shameless with no sense of moral, ethics, propriety or empathy.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
3. He does what every narcissist does - he uses people. He learned this watching his dad and the mob.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:27 PM
Feb 2023

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
5. I had to cut my thread short, I had company..
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:32 PM
Feb 2023

I was going to add that he met his match in Jack Smith. 🐱

agingdem

(8,851 posts)
6. Genius???..
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:34 PM
Feb 2023

Trump is a know-nothing deranged amoral cruel vengeful narcissistic sociopath...he surrounded/surrounds himself with like-minded trash willing to do his bidding for the sake of the all-mighty dollar...

Takket

(23,715 posts)
10. Mob leaders never kill people
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:36 PM
Feb 2023

They tell the guy below him who tells the guy below him who tells the guy below him who tells the guy below him who tells the guy below him to kill someone.

And starting at the bottom of that list and trying to flip everyone on the way up is damn near impossible. Al Capone went to jail for taxes. Not because of all the people he had killed.

Justice matters.

(9,789 posts)
40. hair furhair commits tax frauds over tax frauds for decades...
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 06:59 PM
Feb 2023

insurance frauds, bank frauds, tax frauds, and nothing ever happens...

So, since nothing ever happens, he keeps on committing tax frauds, insurance frauds, bank frauds and worse... and still nothing happens to his "Freedumb" to commit more crimes...

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
11. Calling Trump a genius is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:37 PM
Feb 2023

The man is ignorant as hell. He is foolish as hell and he is dumb as hell. Using millions of dollars HANDED to him by daddy to surround himself with corrupt lawyers is not the work of genius. He gets caught at everything and lawyers have to bail him out. It worked during his business career. It worked when he was president because the office, corrupt AG protected him. What Trump is facing now is a whole different ballgame.

The lawyers who protect him are not going to save him this time. They are hiring lawyers to try and save themselves.

Trump without money and lawyers is an imbecile.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
34. Your last sentence is perfect. "Trump without money is an imbecile."
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 04:23 PM
Feb 2023

Geniuses don't go bankrupt several times RUNNING CASINOS.

And he didn't even earn the money. He inherited it and stole some from his dead brother's estate.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
12. Your post is incomplete
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:38 PM
Feb 2023

(Bold italics mine, to correct inaccurate statement)

. It is why he indicted Steve Bannon (nothing to Trump) and Peter Navarro (just a trade advisor) for contempt of congress and wouldn't indict Mark Meadows (Chief of Staff) and Dan Scavino. (Deputy Chief of staff) for contempt of congress


You’ve forgotten about the due process concept of discovery, haven’t you?

Indicting Meadows and Scavino, who were much more deeply involved in the coup planning than Bannon and Navarro, for contempt would trigger discovery, where the defendants would gain access to all the evidence DOJ had on them, which they could then share with other co-conspirators, whether indicted or not.

You forgot about this in your rush to blast Garland for being an institutionalist, didn’t you?

Just because Garland smartly chose not to sabotage his entire investigation for a charge that carries a max 1 year sentence, does not prove he won’t seek indictments for more serious charges at a later date.

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
21. Also an obsession with Adam Schiff,
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:52 PM
Feb 2023

why don't you want to see Trump and his cronies indicted?

Answer me this, it was a question asked by Adam Schiff, "why is Fani Willis so far ahead of DOJ?"

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
23. Are you losing your mind?
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:57 PM
Feb 2023

You are saying I don't want trump and his cronies indicted????? That question of me is not based in reality. By the way you just bashed Garland again. You do it without even noticing it.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
27. Schiff doesn't know any more than you or I do
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 03:08 PM
Feb 2023

Which is as it should be.

Schiff might as well ask “why aren’t apples more like oranges?”

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
19. Not much left to be discovered,
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:50 PM
Feb 2023

investigative reporters and the J6 committee uncovered it all.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
26. Your certainty that all is known is quite amusing
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 03:06 PM
Feb 2023

Even if it were true, would you support indicting Meadows for contempt now, knowing he could provide evidence to Trump, not only giving Trump a head start on strategizing his defense while the contempt case drags through the courts, but could also give Trump information on which witnesses he should threaten?

There appears to be a lot of information regarding Trump’s Super PAC, and it’s link to funding the Big Lie and January 6 that has yet to surface clearly and completely.


I look forward to the day we can actually say we know everything about Trump’s crimes, but today isn’t that day.

Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #12)

unblock

(56,198 posts)
15. Except Donnie personally commits crimes left and right as well
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:42 PM
Feb 2023

Yes, like any ordinary crime boss, he surrounds himself with people who he makes sure commit crimes so that he can ensure loyalty to him.

But an actually clever mob boss makes sure to never personally commit crimes, or at least to make sure they would be very difficult to trace back to them personally.

Not so with Donnie, because he's an incredibly arrogant, privileged, evil fück. He commits crime left and right. He just is really good at leveraging privilege to get away with it.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
17. Remember when I told you I was trying to help you.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:46 PM
Feb 2023

I told you were attacking Garland more than Trump, it was a bad look. Look what you just did. You called Trump a genius and then attacked Garland. Some people won't listen.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
25. You don't acknowledge my post.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 03:03 PM
Feb 2023

Do you understand what you are doing? I know you read my post. You are bashing Garland constantly and calling Trump a genius. Please respond, do you know you are doing this? Do you not care you are doing this? I am trying to understand, I am not attacking you.

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
24. So, discovery wasn't an issue,
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 02:59 PM
Feb 2023

why didn't Merrick Garland indict "individual one?"

Surely everyone here is upset that Garland chose not to indict because of politics, not because he didn't have a slam dunk case.

Am I right, bad move by Garland?

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
31. Promise? Because your posts saying another poster is losing his mind
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 04:18 PM
Feb 2023

because he disagrees with you are really quite disgusting.

And your incessant demands that he agrees with you, which you lately seem to be consistently couching in bizarre, "I'm trying to help you!!1!" bullshit are absolutely creepy.

At this point, I seriously wonder if you and your friend are capable of "letting him be."

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
30. Nah, just a bum who had money to hire lawyers/fixers.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 04:12 PM
Feb 2023

And it was inherited and stolen money (some from his dead brother's estate), so he's no genius.

Now if he was a self-made multi-millionaire that would be one thing, but that's not the case. In fact, if he had just put the money in index funds and let it accrue interest, he's be better off now and wouldn't have gone through several bankruptcies RUNNING CASINOS FOR GOD'S SAKE.

So no, he's no genius.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
38. I don't necessarily disagree with your statement.
Fri Feb 17, 2023, 05:51 PM
Feb 2023

We just need a bigger “genius”…wink, wink! That’s half the problem in getting Trump. One has to wade into the “gray area”, and so far no one in the DOJ has been willing to do that.

It’s way past time to play Trump’s games. We need a bigger genius, a bigger asshole and someone who understands that NO ONE a should be above the law.

I don’t see that happening.

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