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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:36 PM Feb 2023

I'm amazed at the number of people fretting about a non-existent development (re: Jimmy Carter)

"Trump better not go to Carter's funeral!!!"

Why would anyone leap to the conclusion that he's going to be invited, much less has a "right" to attend?

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I'm amazed at the number of people fretting about a non-existent development (re: Jimmy Carter) (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2023 OP
I hope the 2016 popular vote winner is right there front row with Obama and Biden Takket Feb 2023 #1
That seems equally irrelevant... brooklynite Feb 2023 #4
We have some expert high jumpers here. that one went into orbit. Srkdqltr Feb 2023 #2
He'll be invited but I doubt he'll attend Renew Deal Feb 2023 #3
Again, WHY do you assert that "he'll be invited"? brooklynite Feb 2023 #5
The Carters are far more decent than the Trumps Renew Deal Feb 2023 #8
A Government ceremony isn't the same as a funeral. brooklynite Feb 2023 #11
There will certainly be a state funeral tritsofme Feb 2023 #15
1+ msfiddlestix Feb 2023 #22
What's your point? Renew Deal Feb 2023 #18
Trump went to Poppy Bush's funeral Polybius Feb 2023 #33
I just have a sick feeling in my stomach brettdale Feb 2023 #6
Or better still, why do they care? Lettuce Be Feb 2023 #7
lol ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #9
How high of a number is it? Chautauquas Feb 2023 #10
It's a discussion board. People are free to discuss their feelings and opinions on a given subject. debm55 Feb 2023 #12
Yes! patricia92243 Feb 2023 #20
My first vote as well, via absentee ballot phylny Feb 2023 #30
I truly don't think he'd be welcomed there. Laffy Kat Feb 2023 #13
As far as I am concerned, it's a bit too early to make ANY plans for Carter's funeral Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author debm55 Feb 2023 #29
He made them quite a long time ago dsc Feb 2023 #43
I meant discussing plans for his funeral in public. That's just in bad taste. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #45
I agree. It's really bad taste to talk about his funeral while he is still alive liberal_mama Feb 2023 #46
He's a former President! Texasgal Feb 2023 #16
I'll grant the worrywarts this: TFG *does* have a history of showing up places uninvited/unwanted RockRaven Feb 2023 #17
I don't believe he was invited to GWB's funeral MiniMe Feb 2023 #19
US Presidential Funeral Traditions diva77 Feb 2023 #21
People love a chance to A) talk about tfg. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #23
and when he got Covid-19 treestar Feb 2023 #38
People can't let him go. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2023 #24
Will you be sending out a list of approved topics? BannonsLiver Feb 2023 #25
"Jimmy Carter suggests Trump is an illegitimate president" brooklynite Feb 2023 #26
'a nice man" treestar Feb 2023 #39
Why are you responding to your own post? W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #42
Whether or not you like 45 pinkstarburst Feb 2023 #27
If he's not invited, or is dis-invited, it would be a break with recent tradition. onenote Feb 2023 #28
And Trump is a stickler for tradition... brooklynite Feb 2023 #32
brooklynite, if Trump is a stckler for tradition, why didn't he attend the swearing in of Biden as debm55 Feb 2023 #34
And that's my point. brooklynite Feb 2023 #35
And my point is that the Carters respect tradition onenote Feb 2023 #37
but unless there was good reason treestar Feb 2023 #40
Dump is the anti-Carter. roamer65 Feb 2023 #31
I'm inthewind21 Feb 2023 #36
He's in hospice. Hence the discussion. Takket Feb 2023 #41
I can't stand to think of him being dead 💔😪 too painful. nt Raine Feb 2023 #44
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
4. That seems equally irrelevant...
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:41 PM
Feb 2023

The Clinton's will attend because they know the Carters, not to send some kind of message about the 2016 election.

Renew Deal

(85,262 posts)
3. He'll be invited but I doubt he'll attend
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:41 PM
Feb 2023

Attending something like this would be out of character for him.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
5. Again, WHY do you assert that "he'll be invited"?
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:43 PM
Feb 2023

Being a President doesn't bring with it an automatic right to attend Presidential funerals.

Renew Deal

(85,262 posts)
8. The Carters are far more decent than the Trumps
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:59 PM
Feb 2023

I don't recall them meeting though I believe that Carter attended his inauguration.

tritsofme

(19,922 posts)
15. There will certainly be a state funeral
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:27 PM
Feb 2023

And the question of Trump’s attendance will no doubt invite speculation in the press.

What a weird thread.

Renew Deal

(85,262 posts)
18. What's your point?
Sun Feb 19, 2023, 12:30 AM
Feb 2023

Here’s an idea. Post a thread when Trump is invited admitting you were wrong. That should make up for the flame war you started.

Polybius

(21,970 posts)
33. Trump went to Poppy Bush's funeral
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 02:53 PM
Feb 2023

He has said more nasty things about the Bush's than Carter.

 

brettdale

(12,748 posts)
6. I just have a sick feeling in my stomach
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:45 PM
Feb 2023

That when he passes, Faux News and others are going to be as cruel as they can be.

Lettuce Be

(2,355 posts)
7. Or better still, why do they care?
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 10:46 PM
Feb 2023

It'd be nice if we'd hear as little as possible about such a small man-child.

debm55

(61,066 posts)
12. It's a discussion board. People are free to discuss their feelings and opinions on a given subject.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:16 PM
Feb 2023

President Carter is the first president I voted for. I admired him then and I always will.

phylny

(8,818 posts)
30. My first vote as well, via absentee ballot
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 12:21 AM
Feb 2023

because I was away for my first year of college.

Laffy Kat

(16,959 posts)
13. I truly don't think he'd be welcomed there.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:18 PM
Feb 2023

President Carter has more goodness in one fingernail than TFG could ever hope to acquire in a lifetime. All TFG would do is try ruin the service. It's ultimately up to the family, I guess.

I know President Carter has had a long and productive life, yet it still breaks my heart. He is the first prez. I ever voted for and I've always been proud about that.

Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #14)

dsc

(53,415 posts)
43. He made them quite a long time ago
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 03:55 PM
Feb 2023

that fact has been mentioned in both 2006, when Ford died and in 2018 when GHW Bush died. I don't know what they are, but the plans have existed for quite a while now.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
45. I meant discussing plans for his funeral in public. That's just in bad taste.
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 05:33 PM
Feb 2023

I am sure that Mr. Carter, as well as his family, lawyers, etc, have made plans. But that's none of our business.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
46. I agree. It's really bad taste to talk about his funeral while he is still alive
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 02:34 PM
Feb 2023

It's ghoulish.

Texasgal

(17,241 posts)
16. He's a former President!
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:34 PM
Feb 2023

He will likely be invited AND attend. People are just voicing their objections. Is that a problem?

RockRaven

(19,540 posts)
17. I'll grant the worrywarts this: TFG *does* have a history of showing up places uninvited/unwanted
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:39 PM
Feb 2023

HOWEVER, I don't see any chance he does so with a Carter funeral -- his ego wouldn't let him risk the humiliation of being turned away under TONS of media coverage. Even if he were to be invited, I don't see him going.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
23. People love a chance to A) talk about tfg.
Sun Feb 19, 2023, 10:25 AM
Feb 2023

And B) fret about something to do with tfg.

I remember when certain posters had him dead and buried when he was first diagnosed with skin cancer. There were numerous tribute threads.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
26. "Jimmy Carter suggests Trump is an illegitimate president"
Sun Feb 19, 2023, 04:52 PM
Feb 2023
Former President Jimmy Carter suggested Friday that a full investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election would show that Donald Trump didn’t win the presidency.

“There’s no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election. And I think the interference, although not yet quantified, if fully investigated would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf,” Carter said at the Carter Center’s retreat in Leesburg, Virginia.

Asked if he believes Trump is an illegitimate president, Carter paused for a moment.

“Based on what I just said, which I can’t retract,” Carter said to audience laughter.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/politics/jimmy-carter-trump-russia-interference/index.html


Trump escalates spat with ‘forgotten president’ Jimmy Carter

OSAKA, Japan — Donald Trump on Saturday blasted Jimmy Carter as the “forgotten president,” one day after Carter questioned the legitimacy of Trump’s election, saying the president likely won because of Russian interference.

“He’s a nice man. He was a terrible president,” Trump said at a news conference after wrapping the G-20 summit in Japan. “He’s been trashed within his own party. He’s been trashed.”

Carter, who served between 1977 and 1981, made the allegation Friday while speaking in Leesburg, Va., saying a full investigation of Russian election interference would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election against Hillary Clinton in 2016.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/29/trump-jimmy-carter-russia-1390416


Just the sort of person you'd invite to your funeral?

pinkstarburst

(2,059 posts)
27. Whether or not you like 45
Sun Feb 19, 2023, 06:27 PM
Feb 2023

he is a former president. This merits an invitation to things like the state funerals of former presidents. He may or may not attend. But I am sure he will be invited just like all the other past presidents.

onenote

(46,186 posts)
28. If he's not invited, or is dis-invited, it would be a break with recent tradition.
Sun Feb 19, 2023, 07:04 PM
Feb 2023

All living former presidents attended the funerals of LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush I. I assume that was the case for JFK and probably for Eisenhower and even Hoover. Not sure when a former president wasn't in attendance at the funeral of a fellow former president and what the reason was for such absence if and when it occurred.

debm55

(61,066 posts)
34. brooklynite, if Trump is a stckler for tradition, why didn't he attend the swearing in of Biden as
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 02:56 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Mon Feb 20, 2023, 03:32 PM - Edit history (2)

President?

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
35. And that's my point.
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 03:06 PM
Feb 2023

I doubt that the Carters feel the need top invite Trump simply because that's the "tradition", especially given his own track record.

onenote

(46,186 posts)
37. And my point is that the Carters respect tradition
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 03:37 PM
Feb 2023

And are likely to invite him if for no other reason than to highlight the difference between them and Trump

treestar

(82,383 posts)
40. but unless there was good reason
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 03:47 PM
Feb 2023

they went to the inaugurations, too. TFG is a sore loser and has to be the corpse at every funeral no doubt.

roamer65

(37,965 posts)
31. Dump is the anti-Carter.
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 01:55 PM
Feb 2023

President Carter is such a good and kind person.

Dump is the absolute antithesis to all of what President Carter has stood for.

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