Naval Academy building renamed in honor of Jimmy Carter

[DinahMoeHum]

https://archive.ph/M0ZEa#selection-1907.0-1907.55

The U.S. Navy has renamed a building at the Naval Academy to honor former President Jimmy Carter.

Maury Hall has been renamed Carter Hall, according to a news release on Friday. Secretary of the Navy Carlos Del Toro said this followed a vote by Congress to identify and remove names connected to the Confederacy from U.S. military facilities.

Carter family members attended the renaming ceremony.

Carter’s grandson, Josh Carter, said, “It would be impossible to overstate what this Academy and the Navy has meant to my grandfather, and by extension to my family. It was life on the farm that gave my grandfather his work ethic and his ability to enjoy getting up at 5:30 every morning. But it was this school that taught him discipline, the value of expertise, and the importance of service. It is my hope that every student that comes through this great hall will learn the same foundational values that my grandfather learned here and through his career in the Navy.”

James Earl Carter, USNA class of 1946






(boldface emphasis mine - DMH)

[UTUSN]

1. K&R

[Wounded Bear]

2. K & R...nt

[niyad]

3. KNR

[LittleGirl]

4. KnR, Love this! nt

[CaptainTruth]

5. I'm so glad he's alive to see this.

To me it's always a shame when all the praise & accolades for someone come pouring out *after* they've passed away. It would have been so much better if they could have heard it all *before* they passed.

[malthaussen]

6. Aside from being a racist bastard, Maury was a pretty cool dude...

... one of the most-decorated destroyers of WW2 was named after him. Retroactive infamy is tough.

-- Mal

[ShazzieB]

10. Aside from being a racist bastard, and serving in the Confederate Navy?

"Maury Hall was previously named for Matthew Fountaine Maury, who headed the coast, harbor and river defenses for the Confederate Navy.

I'm sorry, but fighting for the Confederate states that tried to tear this nation apart pretty much cancels out any claim to "cool dude" status, afaic.

There's no question that there were people on the Confederate side who were good at what they did, and some of them may have had some positive personal qualities, but we should not lose sight of the fact that they went to war against the United States to protect their "right" to continue enslaving other human beings.

I don't know a darned thing about Maury personally, but I know from this article that he headed the "coast, harbor and river defenses for the Confederate Navy." I presume that would have included firing on and sinking U.S. Navy ships manned by fellow Americans. I don't know how many deaths of American sailors and naval officers he was directly or indirectly responsible for, but the idea of a building at the U.S. Naval Academy having his name on it makes me cringe. I'm really glad to see Confederate names being removed from U.S. military facilities, and I will celebrate when they have all been renamed.

Sorry if this comment sounds harsh. I'm a great admirer of Lincoln, and I've been reading a lot about him and the Civil War lately. Knowing what he went through trying to keep this country in one piece and how he was "rewarded" by being assassinated by a Confederate sympathizer makes me feel like putting the entire Confederacy on my shit list. I say this as a person who has at least one ancestor who fought on the Confederate side (and he's on my shit list, too ).

[malthaussen]

12. Part of being a racist bastard.

I'm happy to see all Confederate monuments and memorabilia thrown into the dustbin of history where they belong.

Enemies may be honored, if they were honorable, and Maury made some important contributions to oceanography while he was loyal to the US. Honor does not extend to making statues of them, naming installations after them, or naming any new destroyers after them. It is to be regretted (despised, even) that so many people who made valuable contributions while they were loyal turned to treason. I do think, though, that a balanced view of history should not neglect the fact that they made those contributions. Benedict Arnold was a hell of a general, no matter whom he fought for. As for Maury, he is one of the founders of the modern science of oceanography. 'tis pity he was a traitor.

Maury was a racist, but so was just about everybody in the 19th century, including any number of abolitionists who hated the "Negro" almost as much as they hated slavery. IMO, abolition in the 19th century oddly resembles Right-to-Life today: free the slaves, but make no place for them in the country when they are free. Maury, like many (including one A. Lincoln) thought the best "solution" to the "Negro problem" was to send them off to another country as colonists/slave labor. In his case, he thought they'd be great for Brazil, and that by siphoning all the slaves from the South to Brazil, the institution would gradually wither away in the South, and conflict would be avoided. There were people on the other side of the Mason Dixon who thought much the same, but of course they didn't chose to take arms against their country when that idea didn't pan out.

-- Mal

[Smackdown2019]

17. History is History!

History is History and we ALL should learn from it. Unfortunately, many want to rewrite their interpretations of events, but the fact remains History is History.

As for the American Civil War, statutes are just that, granite craved to preserve ones accomplishments. I have been to many battlefields throughout the nation and I learn many things. One important aspect I learned is loyalty.

Yes, what the Confederacy stood for was totally wrong, BUT, United States used slaves, even the White House was constructed by slaves. So again, the loyalty factor I brought up. Imagine yourself being a man that lived in the same town and NEVER left a radius of 15 miles of that home. News was either by word of the mouth, Church or that One Towns Newspaper that read at that Publisher VIEWPOINT. This was both the Union and Confederate side.
Loyalty, is understandable if the southern whippet shouts out how bad a "Yankee" was and will take your means of living. Or a union/northern shouts out about those dirty Rebels.

Statues are just statues, they should remain at Military Battlefields. BUT, they should not be in a City Park or in front a military base that has NO Battlefield history of such for that Statute or Name. I do agree Confederate officers that had Military bases or Federal Government Buildings named after them, should be renamed.

What I disagree with is what WE 2023 citizens know now, that 1863 Confederate solider didn't, what they truly were fighting for and it was not for states rights.

Also, not a fan of Lincoln. For he cheated his Presidential nomination and he produced blunders after blunders that caused the split of this nation. Remember, he was a republican....

What I learned from those Battlefields?

1. Death
2. Destruction
3. Years of recovery
4. Hardships
5. Pain
6. Crude of warfare
7. Miracles
8. Trusts
9 Triumphs
10. Aftermath
11. Freedom is not FREE, it was paid with blood.

[Paladin]

7. Outstanding move.

And first-rate comments by the grandson.

[calimary]

8. LOVE this!!!

Why we should be “honoring” the “Confederacy” and anybody who joined it fought for it does not make any sense to me.

[Uncle Joe]

9. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread DinahMoeHum

[republianmushroom]

11. like it

[raging moderate]

13. Good for You, Naval Academy!

James Earl Carter, one of your finest graduates!

[Hekate]

14. Excellent move

[Pacifist Patriot]

15. Fantastic!!!

[Submariner]

16. Maybe rename it Jimmy Carter Hall?

so it cannot be confused with the currently commissioned Carter Hall (LSD-50).

It caught my attention because my first ship out of boot camp was the Carter Hall (LSD-3) back in the '60s.

[BOSSHOG]

18. Kind of off topic

Our Company Commander in basic training was BMC Carter. We called ourselves Carter’s Pills.

I’m proud of the Navy for righting a wrong and honoring one heck of a decent human being.

[Lucinda]

23. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[TomSlick]

19. Great move.

Way to go, Navy!

[Beautiful Disaster]

20. Matthew Fontaine Maury wanted to colonize Brazil with White Southerners...

And then deport all our slaves to Brazil to work for the colonizers as he saw slavery was being phased out in America.

Dude was trash.

[Raine]

21. WONDERFUL, I love Jimmy Carter so much. ❤️ nt

[Lucinda]

22. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

24. Donald Trump must be soiling his Depends right now