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a kennedy

(35,971 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 12:12 PM Feb 2023

and here we go.......the rollercoaster that is the DOW is having a panic attack, down over 500.

Why now may I ask??? I know it’ll go back up, but yikes……seems so up and down more then I ever remember it.

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EYESORE 9001

(29,724 posts)
1. Fasten your seat belt. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 12:23 PM
Feb 2023

Until the capitalistas who own every fucking thing shake some sense into the MAGAt caucus in the House, we’re gonna see a nosedive of epic proportions the closer we get to defaulting on the national debt.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
2. A 1.64% decline. Compare that to 10/19 1987
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 12:40 PM
Feb 2023

Dow down over 500, a 22% decline. Panicking over 500 point declines is so last century!.

a kennedy

(35,971 posts)
4. Right......and I remember that one. I was working in the Marketing Dept our our State University
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 12:45 PM
Feb 2023

and I swear all the faculty were gonna commit suicide. 😂 and not really, but you are right, percentage wise that was the worst in my life time.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
6. I found it kind of funny.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 01:22 PM
Feb 2023

That was the "greed is good" period. I remember (I worked near NY's financial district at the time) all the full of shit monopoly money millionaires walking around like they own the world, constantly congratulating themselves and conspicuously displaying all the trinkets their imaginary profits could buy. The expression on their faces after the crash was priceless.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. So true. I often think this as the media report 1% "panics."
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:35 PM
Feb 2023

A sick kid had me doing temp jobs that year, and on that day I was in the bond department of a big downtown L.A. financial firm scribbling tickets for a group of traders, stock traders were next floor down. It was always intense anyway, but! Feeling the pulse of the planet was what I liked about being there, and it was certainly bounding that day.

 

Bonx

(2,353 posts)
7. 'Why now may I ask???'
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 01:30 PM
Feb 2023

"U.S. stocks were in a downswing Tuesday to start a busy holiday-shortened week as investors weighed earnings letdowns from big-box retailers and considered the prospect of higher-for-longer interest rates."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-market-news-today-february-21-2023-110046104.html

8. As of now, the Dow is flat for the year, but the S&P500 (better match for me) is up over 4% YTD.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 02:34 PM
Feb 2023

You can also get a 4% medium-term CD at lots of places. I'd be satisfied with an overall 4% gain each year, as long as inflation stays at current levels.

unc70

(6,501 posts)
11. S&P is down for last 12 months
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:31 PM
Feb 2023

YTD is currently too short a period for an annual comparison. The past twelve months has been down for all the equity markets.

16. The OP is about today's performance, so in that context, YTD provides 51 times as much data.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 06:00 PM
Feb 2023

But the real point, which we probably agree on, is that today's performance shouldn't matter much. Retail investors need to have an outlook and investment plan that matches their goals. If you needed the money that you "lost" today in the DOW for some short-term purpose, then you had it invested in the wrong place.

edhopper

(37,367 posts)
10. Getting better returns from interest
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:04 PM
Feb 2023

And safer. People move their money from stocks to bonds, cds, etc...

Be diversified.

MissB

(16,344 posts)
12. diversification is the best way to hedge - and the rates on I bonds has been good. I think the rate
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:34 PM
Feb 2023

resets in April, but if one were to buy I bonds before the end date of the current rate, then the rate is good for 6 months.

CDs haven't been bad lately either.

blogslug

(39,167 posts)
15. I know nothing about the stock market
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:29 PM
Feb 2023

I did notice that Tesla is now under $200 a share, which was supposed to be a bad thing.

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