2/14: Mother is shot dead in front of children by a stranger after fight in supermarket parking lot

[phylny]

I’m sorry if this was already posted, I searched and did not see it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/alexandria-borys-obituary-murder-south-carolina-b2285298.html

A mother was fatally shot in front of her children after an argument with a stranger in a South Carolina supermarket parking lot on Valentine’s Day.

Alexandria Cress Borys, 26, was loading groceries into her car outside a Kroger in Irmo on Tuesday afternoon when the argument erupted between her and another woman, her husband Tyler Borys told Fox57.

Shortly after the altercation ended, Alexandria was shot in the back while her children, a two-year-old and an infant, sat in the car. The mother was pronounced dead at the scene at around 4pm.

The shooter was later identified by police as 23-year-old Christina Harrison.



This is why my husband and I never engage with anyone who has an anger issue. You want to take my parking spot? Go ahead. Give me the finger when I’m driving on the road? Feel free to pass me.

[CrispyQ]

1. So tragic, yet something to keep in mind when dealing with angry strangers.

A lot of lives are going to be different forever. Those two kids.

[EYESORE 9001]

2. 'Don't engage' is pretty much my policy anymore

I avert my eyes and keep on chooglin’.

[jalan48]

3. "Alexandria's death came just six days after her younger brother Brandon was fatally shot."

[Rocknation]

22. I was just about to post "WERE they 'strangers?'"

If the car was already parked and being loaded, what was there to argue about?

Then I read your post -- and smelled the possibility of a connection. Hooray for me...


Rocknation

[jalan48]

41. So tragic for the family, especially the kids

[MissMillie]

4. "well-regulated militia" engaging in "self-protection" strikes again (n/t)

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[friend of a friend]

10. "well-regulated militia" has nothing to do with who can own guns.

This is why grammar and especially commas are so important.

[Phoenix61]

32. It most definitely does and anyone who does even a

cursory study to learn what the writers meant would know that. It was never meant as an individual right.

[friend of a friend]

47. It takes more than just a cursory study to learn what the writers meant.

It takes a knowledge of historical linguistics to understand the meaning. If it was written in the English of today, it would be easier to understand. But for now, it doesn't matter what the Founding Fathers meant when the 2nd Amendment was written, the only thing that matters is what The Supreme Court says it means.

[MissMillie]

51. If the "well-regulated militia" were not relevant

the framers would not have added the phrase.

The Constitution is famous for being sparse on words--on purpose.

[friend of a friend]

52. What I meant was The Supreme Court said that the rights of the people to bear arms

is independent of service in a state militia. They said that the first part about the militia is prefatory or an introduction and the second part about people owning guns is the operative clause. It does not matter what the writers of the Constitution meant about any part of it, it is the Supreme Court that has the final say in the matter. The Supreme Court did not rule that the 2nd Amendment was absolute otherwise people would be able to own any weapon they want.

[hlthe2b]

5. Yes, you can do what you can to avoid these "ragers" but it doesn't always work.

I remember years ago being in heavy traffic at a stoplight in the turn lane behind a large transport truck. As I was in a compact car, I could not even see the stoplight but could only hug the bumper of the truck and hope to make it through when the turn light was lit when the truck moved, since they were the only one in front of me at the light and there was a line of traffic waiting to turn behind me. Well, he took his damned time, and apparently, traffic facing us had seen the light turn green for them so by the time I got through one driver had to pause a moment to let me finish the turn. He ran half a block away to catch me caught at the next stoplight tried to open my door and was screaming incoherently. I motioned at the truck still in front of me and motioned that I couldn't see around it. Fortunately, this guy wasn't so beyond reasoning not to immediately recognize what had happened and that it obviously could happen to him as well and he gave a grudging "sorry" and drove off. But he certainly could have shot me, had he been armed before digesting anything I had to say.


The episode of the 23 yo woman who shot the mother is beyond horrific. Damned guns--without them at least there might have been a chance.

[Diamond_Dog]

7. I am so sorry that happened to you hlthe2b

I am always telling my husband the same thing, don’t engage with these psychos. For men, it’s harder not to get the last word in. You must have been plenty rattled for sure after that happened. I can’t imagine an angry stranger trying to open my car door!

A friend of ours was taking another friend home from chemotherapy a few years ago - this was in the Pittsburgh area - traffic was very heavy at the time and she had to merge into traffic from the left, up ahead was a toll booth maybe a mile ahead.

Well apparently and unknowingly she cut in too close for some hot head who felt that “she cut me off” so when she stopped in line the toll booth this psycho got out of his car, stomped over to her drivers side window, and motioned for her to roll the window down. Thinking he was in trouble for some reason, she rolled her window down, and this jerk without a word punched her right in the face!

Fortunately they were surrounded by a sea of cars at the toll booth, several people called the police, and the guy was apprehended and arrested. She was bruised up pretty good but made a full recovery.

And you never know when or if they’ll pull out a gun ….

[hlthe2b]

9. Thanks Diamond_Dog. IF there is any good to come out of it, I think of the episode every time

I'm tempted to engage with some of these strangers--no matter how "in the right" I think I was.

[XanaDUer2]

12. Omg

What happened to the puncher?

I had a nut in Miami try to kill me bc I didn't drive over a drawbridge until the light went green. His wife and baby were in the car. My friend gave them the finger like an asshole, so he went nuts. Fancy sports car.

[panader0]

15. I'm old school. Back when I was younger, if I got into a dispute with a guy

we'd go outside and duke it out. Impossible now, first I'm too old, and second, everyone has a gun now.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

35. Yep, thats the thing...everyone with weapon of mass death to solve disputes in between

the heroism of keeping he castle safe and the government from tyranny.

100 Gun Deaths a day is the small price to pay to water the tree of liberty!

Gunners are the same cloth as MTGs.

[Diamond_Dog]

39. So true.

[Diamond_Dog]

31. He was arrested, that's as far as I remember.

There were plenty of witnesses so I assume he had to serve some time behind bars.

What an awful experience for you, these days sometimes it seems like everyone is out on the warpath! Yikes.

[XanaDUer2]

38. Yes this happened in the 80s

He probably would have shot us now

[Alexander Of Assyria]

33. Foreigners, do not come to American red states for vacation, angry brainwashed and Gun happy.

[maxsolomon]

6. Wow, a woman shooter.

Pretty unusual.

[Celerity]

17. yes

alleged shooter



victim

[GenThePerservering]

49. I know

women are traditionally the voice of sanity - that goes for pretty much any sector of society, even if some of us are nutso - now we're acting like man-babies.

[Mr.Bill]

8. Guns are the new middle finger. n/t

[Ferrets are Cool]

11. It is a shame what rethugs and gunhumpers have allowed America to become.

And "shame" is too kind a word.

[lpbk2713]

13. A GoFundMe page has been created in the name of the victim.

Link: https://www.gofundme.com/f/alexandrias-memorial

She leaves behind a tiny baby who will never get to know his mother.

[XanaDUer2]

14. I hope they throw the book at the killer

No reason for loss of life.

[jayschool2013]

16. Another victim

of the well-regulated militia.

[Bristlecone]

19. Another day in America.

Unfortunately

[gratuitous]

20. Good thing Christina had a firearm

Otherwise, this could have just been some angry words yelled back and forth and a couple of people would have just had a bad day. This way, the nation loses a mother and gains a killer. Because that's totally what the Founding Fathers and Republican Jesus want for us. All praise to the Rifle, the Gun and the MX Missile in the High Church of Redemptive Violence.

[pandr32]

21. Those poor kids.

[aggiesal]

23. America is a Gun

[KY_EnviroGuy]

24. On Valentine's Day. See local SC coverage here....

26-year-old mother shot by stranger after argument in grocery store parking lot
WMBF News
By Andrew Fancher and Debra Worley
Published: Feb. 17, 2023

Link: https://www.wmbfnews.com/2023/02/17/26-year-old-mother-shot-by-stranger-after-argument-grocery-store-parking-lot/

Snips....

IRMO, S.C. (WIS/Gray News) – A 26-year-old mother was shot and killed by a stranger outside a Kroger grocery store in South Carolina on Valentine’s Day. Tyler Borys told WIS his wife, Alexandria Borys, was grocery shopping with her sister-in-law, niece and nephew.

As they were loading groceries into the car, he said an argument started in the parking lot between Alexandria Borys and a woman who was later identified as 23-year-old Christina Harrison.
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Harrison has since been charged with murder, unlawful carrying of a pistol and possession of a firearm during a violent crime.

She died just under a week after her brother also died from an unrelated gunshot wound.

At least two more American family's lives long-term deeply impacted by selfish, self-centered gun-totin' fools.....


RIP..........

[Grins]

25. A 23-year old with a gun.

In a verbal argument. Who then shoots another. In the back.

Why does a 23-year old woman go shopping with a gun?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

37. In America!... cause everyone, everywhere..has a Gun!

Need the Gun to protect me from the other Guys with a Gun.

The crazy goes round and round like a revolver

[rainin]

26. "She died just under a week after her brother also died from an unrelated gunshot wound." OMG

How does this family survive this? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to continue living

[Sky Jewels]

30. I wouldn't.

[republianmushroom]

27. making international news

[3catwoman3]

28. I don't honk at anyone in traffic. If I'm not sure who was first at a 4 way stop...

...I wave other drivers thru before proceeding.

I've never been the confrontational sort, so it's not hard to keep myself in check.

[Kaleva]

40. I try to smile and have a cheerful expression when out driving

Like you, I wave others through if I'm not sure who has the right if way or if it appears the other person doesn't know

[3catwoman3]

42. Somewhat off-topic, but I never turn left right away...

…when the left turn green arrow comes on, because i know at least 3 people, and probably 5, are going to run the red light.

[Kaleva]

44. The nearest traffic light is 45 miles away to the north

Going east, it's about a 100 mile trip before I come to my first traffic light.

There are warning lights closer. One 12 miles to the west and there's another one 20 miles to the south

[3catwoman3]

45. You must not have much trouble...

...with traffic.

[Kaleva]

46. No but there are a lot of people with guns here

So I try to practice what I mentioned earlier where I'm at so when I make a trip to the bigger towns, I'm not having to remind myself to do it as it hopefully will be automatic.

[Sky Jewels]

29. And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free ...

to get gunned down if dare go buy groceries, or go to the movies, or go to the gym, or attend classes, or go to the post office, or visit the mall, or stand on some random street corner...

[kimmylavin]

34. Is this that "polite society" the gun nuts are always going on about?

This is reprehensible.

[perdita9]

36. God forbid you stand up for yourself in this Country

A nut case with a gun might kill you

[Kaleva]

43. Apparently one was almost hit by the other who was driving

This escalated into a confrontation.

"Dale’s agency has not specified what precipitated the “verbal altercation.” Sources familiar with the shooting say it all started when a vehicle not involved in the dispute pulled into a fire lane near a liquor store adjacent to the Kroger. This vehicle is said to have obstructed the view of one of the two participants in the argument – a driver whose car nearly struck the other participant (a pedestrian) as they were walking into oncoming traffic.

After this near-collision, words and gestures were reportedly exchanged – "

https://www.fitsnews.com/2023/02/19/south-carolina-grocery-store-slaying-outrage-abounds/

[XanaDUer2]

48. I'm confused

I read the article. A person parked in the fire lane who had nothing to do with the altercation? But it ended up with shooting a person in their back who was loading groceries and not even driving. Its confusing

[Rocknation]

50. You're right -- clearly, not all the facts are in yet

But there is allegedly street surveillance video that is yet to be released.


Rocknation

[sarisataka]

54. Welcome to DU

And just in case, bye 👋

[riversedge]

55. geez. The wome shot the other woman in the Back!!