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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 12:59 PM Feb 2023

Why are so many RWers supporting Putin

It's not like they were ever communists or descended from Russian ancestors? Is it because they get Russian dark money for their campaigns?

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Why are so many RWers supporting Putin (Original Post) vlyons Feb 2023 OP
Because Trump is Putin's pal Diamond_Dog Feb 2023 #1
It's a legit question winetourdriver01 Feb 2023 #2
A number of reasons lapfog_1 Feb 2023 #3
Seems to me that most questions, especially about the repugnants, rurallib Feb 2023 #4
This will give insight (Hint: $$$$) TheBlackAdder Feb 2023 #5
Because they hate Democracy. GoCubsGo Feb 2023 #6
Kompromat & rubles SheltieLover Feb 2023 #7
He is white, cynically supports the Russian Orthodox Chruch, DBoon Feb 2023 #8
Putin is a fascist and so are right wingers Mysterian Feb 2023 #9
Mostly THIS! nt Samrob Feb 2023 #12
believe you answered your own question. Money republianmushroom Feb 2023 #10
They have been conditioned to reflexively oppose anything Democrats support and vice versa Effete Snob Feb 2023 #11
Fox heavily supported him as the Anti-Obama underpants Feb 2023 #22
Many are authoritarians who genuinely want authoritarian government Hortensis Feb 2023 #13
Idiotic hypocrisy. Their rampant condemnation of socialism oasis Feb 2023 #14
$$ and fascism jcgoldie Feb 2023 #15
turds of a feather plop together eShirl Feb 2023 #16
good one vlyons Feb 2023 #36
Authoritarianism/Strong Man certainty vs democracy's changes/money -- did I mention money? Hekate Feb 2023 #17
Pootie is the direct OPPOSITE of a communist FakeNoose Feb 2023 #18
As the MAGAT t-shirts read, 'I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat'. Omnipresent Feb 2023 #19
I'll spring for packets of sunflower seeds they can carry in their pockets gratuitous Feb 2023 #28
Two primary reasons BannonsLiver Feb 2023 #20
I suspect it is one of two reasons... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #21
Fascists attract fascists. Emile Feb 2023 #23
Listen to Putin Johnny2X2X Feb 2023 #24
It's because Putin is a right-wing authoritarian. Happy Hoosier Feb 2023 #25
Russia infiltrated and owned the repub party long ago. usonian Feb 2023 #26
They secretly know he helped get Trump elected.... Chakaconcarne Feb 2023 #27
That's an interesting take Effete Snob Feb 2023 #30
Russia is no longer Communist. It is a right wing oligarchy Caliman73 Feb 2023 #29
Right now approx 40% of GOP'ers support the war in Ukraine WarGamer Feb 2023 #31
White supremacy MaryMagdaline Feb 2023 #32
Because Russia is so white... and Ukraine is sooooo... white? WarGamer Feb 2023 #33
Because Putin is a white supremacist MaryMagdaline Feb 2023 #34
I never said it made sense MaryMagdaline Feb 2023 #35
White Power Kid Berwyn Feb 2023 #37
 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
2. It's a legit question
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:04 PM
Feb 2023

Financial support is a part of it. They also find his antipathy to a free press, his hatred of the lgbt community, and disdain for people of color, and his embrace of religion quite appealing.

lapfog_1

(31,561 posts)
3. A number of reasons
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:05 PM
Feb 2023

a. Putin has filled the cyber space and airwaves and cable outlets with disinformation for over a decade now
b. Putin and his henchmen have paid off the GCCP here for many many years.
c. They love authoritarian figures...
d. Putin has his church singing his praises, and in return, Putin has clamped down on gays, trans, etc. The RWNJ love this.
e. They oppose anything the "left" supports.. even if it means their own enslavement.

rurallib

(64,505 posts)
4. Seems to me that most questions, especially about the repugnants,
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:06 PM
Feb 2023

ends up going back to money.

Follow the money, follow the money, follow the money.

GoCubsGo

(34,624 posts)
6. Because they hate Democracy.
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:08 PM
Feb 2023

They need a "Daddy" to tell them how to live, and that's why they prefer authoritarians, like Putin and Trump.

DBoon

(24,658 posts)
8. He is white, cynically supports the Russian Orthodox Chruch,
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:09 PM
Feb 2023

oppresses the Russian LGBT community, fights against non-white and non-orthodox minorities, and takes extreme cruel measure to silence his opponents.

He has effectively eliminated political opposition and rules as a dictator.

This is exactly what republicans want.

Mysterian

(6,139 posts)
9. Putin is a fascist and so are right wingers
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:09 PM
Feb 2023

Russia has not been a communist country for a long time.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. They have been conditioned to reflexively oppose anything Democrats support and vice versa
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:11 PM
Feb 2023

It's quite amazing.

The Biden administration should start a program to promote the benefits of breathing air.

We MAY just outsmart them with that one.

underpants

(194,532 posts)
22. Fox heavily supported him as the Anti-Obama
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:59 PM
Feb 2023

He was a glorious strong WHITE leader.

Oh and the money. And probably lots of dirt on the Repubs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Many are authoritarians who genuinely want authoritarian government
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:15 PM
Feb 2023

and a Putin to lead it. They admire him.

Of course, Russia's political warfare ops infiltrated and gained influence within RW power groups long ago too.

And, as said, RWers in general have been worked up to a point that they'll support anything that opposes Democrats. To a less virulent degree the same for their counterparts on the left, but especially including LW authoritarians.

Authoritarian types reportedly have very little capacity for self awareness and always believe themselves.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
15. $$ and fascism
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:17 PM
Feb 2023

And don't underestimate Russian influence on social media platforms influencing Magas.

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
17. Authoritarianism/Strong Man certainty vs democracy's changes/money -- did I mention money?
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:23 PM
Feb 2023

Lots of money flowing to the corrupt and corruptible with power.

But for those average bozos, they really want a Strong Man to bring all those other people to heel.

FakeNoose

(39,951 posts)
18. Pootie is the direct OPPOSITE of a communist
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:24 PM
Feb 2023

He's more like the Repukes - and the Repukes are more like him - than any of us will ever be.

They are kindred spirits, and they loooooove wealthy white men. Pootie is the wealthiest and the whitest.

Omnipresent

(7,297 posts)
19. As the MAGAT t-shirts read, 'I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat'.
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:36 PM
Feb 2023

I wish they would all enlist in the Russian armed forces, so they too, can be buried in Ukraine.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
28. I'll spring for packets of sunflower seeds they can carry in their pockets
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:13 PM
Feb 2023

So that when they fall, sunflowers will grow and blossom over their corpses.

Modeled on this brave woman and what she did last year on February 25 (three days short of one year ago):

BannonsLiver

(20,189 posts)
20. Two primary reasons
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:41 PM
Feb 2023

1. Some have a kink for authoritarianism.

2. The child like “if they’re for it, I’m against it” mentality that has been the central organizing principle of the GOP for the last 25-30 years. Dems and people with a brain despise Putin. Therefore, they must love him.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,501 posts)
21. I suspect it is one of two reasons...
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 01:52 PM
Feb 2023

1)Faux News
2)to own the libs

Who the HELL knows why repugs think or do things?

Johnny2X2X

(23,670 posts)
24. Listen to Putin
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:04 PM
Feb 2023

He talks about fighting woke constantly. And he really hates LGTBQ people, Republicans love him for that.

And the corporate GOP see the Russian system where 110 or so oligarch families control 95% of the country's wealth, that's exactly what Republicans want in America.

Happy Hoosier

(9,384 posts)
25. It's because Putin is a right-wing authoritarian.
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:05 PM
Feb 2023

The Soviets abandoned any form of communism under Stalin. They became a right-wing authoritarian government, with the trappings of Communism.

Many of the far-right types in Russia are embracing Soviet iconography, but with none of the Marxist window dressing. They like the jack boots, though.

And does the GOP.

usonian

(23,220 posts)
26. Russia infiltrated and owned the repub party long ago.
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:09 PM
Feb 2023

Did you notice when their anti-Russian rhetoric just stopped cold?

From an earlier post:

short:
When you start with the premise that Russia has instigated a campaign of disruption in the U.S. to bolster its aims, ALL the pieces fit together perfectly.

1. The conservative movement took a hard swing right from its Limbaugh days of conservative issues and hate to pure hate and destruction. This coincides with the breakup of the Soviet Union. Anti-Soviet messaging ceased.

2. Russia’s economy is extremely oil-dependent. Oil interests control many legislators, and reap massive subsidies and favors.

3. Russia is an Orthodox “Christian in name only”, mostly white state. The church blesses nuclear warheads and Putin has declared his intention to expand his White Christian Nationalism.

4. Putin wants Ukraine. Arguably, that is the cause of his interference in the 2015 election to install an asset as president and weaken NATO, effectively delivering him Ukraine.

5. Bots spread lies and divisive messages to get Americans to fight one another.

6. A major news outlet repeatedly praises Putin, when there’s nothing apparent to gain by doing so. On the surface, anyway.

7. Russia financed and infiltrated the NRA with the goal of replacing constitutional government with mob rule, and domestic terrorism.


TheBlackAdder (reply #5) also nails it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017807199

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
30. That's an interesting take
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:20 PM
Feb 2023

You may have something there.

Sort of like how "January 6 was a false-flag, antifa, FBI-infiltrator job" and "The J6 defendants are all innocent lambs whose rights were violated."

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
29. Russia is no longer Communist. It is a right wing oligarchy
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:19 PM
Feb 2023

The reason so many right wingers are supporting Putin, is because he represents the kind of government that right wingers want.

Putin has outlawed homosexuality, has taken control of the Press, and is decrying "degeneracy" which is a right wing buzzword that has been popular in Neo Nazi circles for a long time.


Russia has not been Communist (if it ever truly was) since the 1990's when Yeltsin was deposed. Russia in all of its 1191 year history, was labeled Communist for about 70 years and people simply seem to associate Russia with Communism. Before 1920 Russia was an absolute monarchy (a right wing concept). After the fall of the USSR, it has been a right wing capitalist state.

The term "Communist" is only thrown out now to rile up right wingers and smear left leaning people with the problems that existed in the USSR and China from the 1940s through the 1990's.

WarGamer

(18,216 posts)
31. Right now approx 40% of GOP'ers support the war in Ukraine
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:23 PM
Feb 2023

And 60% of Democrats support the war in Ukraine.

I doubt if the people against the war are doing it for "Team Rossiya" reasons... half are Tea Partiers whining about cost and half are anti-foreign involvement.

Oh and another bunch of people just do it to be "anti-Biden"... if a GOP'er was in the WH doing it, they'd be asking for military parades and more "war porn" on CNN.

MaryMagdaline

(7,937 posts)
34. Because Putin is a white supremacist
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 02:28 PM
Feb 2023

Putin has forced minorities within Russia to fight the war in Ukraine. White Supremacists in USA look up to him because he and Russian ethnics believe in their supremacy.
Not logical but for every WS in USA you will see a supporter of Putin and Russia.

Kid Berwyn

(22,693 posts)
37. White Power
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 04:40 PM
Feb 2023
In Putin’s Circle, Obama Was the 'N-Word’

By Richard Prince
The Root, 3/16/18

Russian President Vladimir Putin was so contemptuous of Barack Obama that Putin’s aides, if not Putin himself, would refer to the United States’ first black president using the N-word, according to a just-released book by two investigative reporters.

Michael Isikoff, now chief investigative correspondent for Yahoo News, and David Corn, Washington bureau chief for Mother Jones, also cite information indicating that Donald Trump, who had claimed that Obama was not born in the United States, vied with Putin in his hatred of the 44th president. They report on a controversial dossier that said Trump hired prostitutes to defile space where the American president and first lady had slept.

“Putin and his inner circle had nothing but utter contempt for Obama and his administration — much of it cast in racist terms,” Isikoff and Corn write in “Russian Roulette: : The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump.”

“Putin and his top advisers routinely denigrated Obama and his national security team as ‘weak’ and ‘indecisive’ — and then, contradictorily, blamed him for meddling in Russia’s internal affairs. In Putin’s presence, Obama would be called a ‘monkey,’ and it was not uncommon for the American president to be referred to as the N-word.”

Continues…

https://www.theroot.com/putins-circle-considered-obama-the-n-word-1823832442
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