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kentuck

(115,407 posts)
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:20 PM Feb 2023

What is your general impression or opinion of Emily Kohrs, the jury forewoman?

Now that we have had a couple of days to analyze and assimilate the information that she gave to the media?

By what standard do we judge her?

Do we judge her by the standards of the talking heads of the media networks?

Do we judge her by the criticisms from Trump and his defense team?

Or do we judge her as a normal person that was put into a very important and historic position as the jury forewoman?

At first, she may have seemed "unserious" or a little ditzy. Her laughter may have seemed inappropriate. She did not have a personality that fit the round pegs of television.

However, in my opinion, there has been too much secrecy and caution around the Trump role in the insurrection and the crimes of Mar-a-Lago. In a way, it was refreshing to see someone speak out on the matter , in a way that was not illegal, but did not adhere to the rules of the media or the Trump apologists.

She has been a barometer for Fani Willis, the Fulton County DA, who must decide whether or not to take the "recommendations" to a new Grand Jury. The reaction to Emily Kohrs has not been enough to dissuade her to not pursue the case any further. I think it is just a matter of days until the Grand Jury hands down indictments on several people involved in the election interference case.

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What is your general impression or opinion of Emily Kohrs, the jury forewoman? (Original Post) kentuck Feb 2023 OP
Why are we bothering to judge her at all? Blue_Adept Feb 2023 #1
Perfect response. gab13by13 Feb 2023 #10
Yup. Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #14
This. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #19
I agree... Deuce Feb 2023 #27
No one on DU would ever judge anyone. kentuck Feb 2023 #33
She seems nice. pwb Feb 2023 #2
Great post nt delisen Feb 2023 #3
Why do we care? Ocelot II Feb 2023 #4
I think she is playing a very important role in the process. kentuck Feb 2023 #7
I cringed at her general demeanor, mainly the drumph/Giuliani fan girl bullshit. Comfortably_Numb Feb 2023 #5
Agree IcyPeas Feb 2023 #35
Your reply made me reconsider. As you say, maybe she thought of old Rudy rather than treason Rudy. Comfortably_Numb Feb 2023 #43
You gotta wonder how someone this flighty got on a Grand Jury Bucky Feb 2023 #51
What she demonstrated was not being biased. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #6
What does inthewind21 Feb 2023 #26
She didn't really give anything real away. She isn't a TV personality. Srkdqltr Feb 2023 #8
My impression is still that I don't want to see her or anyone from the jury on tv at this point. themaguffin Feb 2023 #9
I think my biggest concern for her is that her completely apolitical bubble kept her from seeing... Hekate Feb 2023 #11
Have you read what people here said about her? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #20
Not so much. Are DUers being cruel? If so, does anyone here have the power and reach of Trump? Hekate Feb 2023 #23
"DUers being cruel"? Oh, surely you jest. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #28
I wish she kept her big yap shut! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2023 #12
Her body movements, expressions and inflections don't present well on camera. TheBlackAdder Feb 2023 #13
Her facial expressions were interesting I thought. But, no harm, no foul. panader0 Feb 2023 #16
In a worse case, that is the reason why she was put on camera. PufPuf23 Feb 2023 #54
Giddy for GOOPers Kennah Feb 2023 #15
She didn't do anything wrong or illegal. But that doesn't mean she should have. CousinIT Feb 2023 #17
If It Weren't For The Fact That Our Side Of The Aisle Is Absolutely DYING, CRAVING, GGoss Feb 2023 #18
She's doing trump WAY too many favors. Paladin Feb 2023 #21
What grand jury duties? dpibel Feb 2023 #44
I felt sorry for her. She did not appear very sophisocated to me and I Raven Feb 2023 #22
Bubblehead Jilly_in_VA Feb 2023 #24
That was my thought. hamsterjill Feb 2023 #53
Why inthewind21 Feb 2023 #25
She knew exactly what she was doing. Never judge a book by its cover. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #29
Either we support the First Amendment or we don't. LonePirate Feb 2023 #30
She comes off as a doofus and shouldn't never be on a jury again. kimbutgar Feb 2023 #31
You sure that's how you want to say that? dpibel Feb 2023 #45
She proves you can be a repug "fan girl" and still be a good jurist Lettuce Be Feb 2023 #32
I think these interviews Meowmee Feb 2023 #34
I guess I am in the minority on these interviews? kentuck Feb 2023 #36
Forced who to move off the dime? Meowmee Feb 2023 #37
Obviously she did not listen to Rudy if he said the election was stolen. kentuck Feb 2023 #38
So she says Meowmee Feb 2023 #39
Do you believe she was serious with her comments about Rudy and Lindsey? kentuck Feb 2023 #40
I only saw snippets of what she said Meowmee Feb 2023 #42
Judging based on snippets? dpibel Feb 2023 #46
I watched all of what was shown on two evening shows Meowmee Feb 2023 #47
So you think the judge is crazy, also? dpibel Feb 2023 #48
I think I have made it clear how I feel about this Meowmee Feb 2023 #49
The interview shpuld not be allowed? edisdead Feb 2023 #50
I hope she has a happy life . Like I hope for most people. Kaleva Feb 2023 #41
Giggling, giddy tweener girl was how she appeared to me. nt Raine Feb 2023 #52
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2023 #55

Ocelot II

(130,537 posts)
4. Why do we care?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:27 PM
Feb 2023

She's a young woman who got a bit full of herself, but as the judge explained, she didn't violate any rules of the GA special grand jury, and nothing she said should have been a surprise to anyone and won't affect who will or won't be indicted. Let's just drop it, OK?

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
7. I think she is playing a very important role in the process.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:34 PM
Feb 2023

She cracked open the door just a little bit into what happened in the Special Grand Jury. I disagree with those that say she hurt the prosecution's case. I think she has made it easier for Fani Willis to send it to the Grand Jury. I think the next Grand Jury will look only at the facts. and will not be fearful to make a decision.

IcyPeas

(25,475 posts)
35. Agree
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:18 PM
Feb 2023

Her demeanor didn't really bother me. But when she got all giddy over rudy guiliani that was disturbing.

Also Lawrence O'Donnell mentioned she didn't even vote in 2016 or 2020. So I questioned how tuned in she was to ... current affairs.

Maybe that doesn't matter

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
43. Your reply made me reconsider. As you say, maybe she thought of old Rudy rather than treason Rudy.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 06:32 PM
Feb 2023

So it would matter when she got Rudy giddy.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
51. You gotta wonder how someone this flighty got on a Grand Jury
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 11:39 PM
Feb 2023

This isn't a petit jury-of-your-peers. A grand jury supposed to be made up of citizens of the community, not a giggle box

Frankly, I'm concerned that any Grand Jury forewoman is discussing the particulars of a case on tv before formal charges are leveled. I certainly hope her chattiness isn't going to get the trial sent to a different venue do to "prejudicing the jury pool." That's absolutely what Trump's legal team will start arguing

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
6. What she demonstrated was not being biased.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:31 PM
Feb 2023

She had a thing for Rudy. Weird. She had a thing for the Georgia SOS. Not as weird.

Even though she appears weird she took the responsibility of being a jury member seriously. Has some maturity.

Srkdqltr

(9,760 posts)
8. She didn't really give anything real away. She isn't a TV personality.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:40 PM
Feb 2023

She acted a little self conscious but was ok.

themaguffin

(5,221 posts)
9. My impression is still that I don't want to see her or anyone from the jury on tv at this point.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:40 PM
Feb 2023

I get that she has the right to do it and I live in GA, I know that it's legal, but I don't think that it helps.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
11. I think my biggest concern for her is that her completely apolitical bubble kept her from seeing...
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:43 PM
Feb 2023

…Trump’s utter cruelty toward people he perceives as either opposing him or simply not doing what he wants — his drive to single out little people and publicly crush them. This is what he did with the two poll workers, mother and daughter. He wrecked their lives and called out the mob on them, and the mob went to their houses and threatened to “arrest” them. He kept calling them out by name at rallies and on tv, over and over and over, and they could have been lynched.

So, Emily is not doing anything illegal or immoral — but I do fear she has unwittingly put herself in harm’s way.


 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
20. Have you read what people here said about her?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:27 PM
Feb 2023

Cruelty?

Have you read the threads about her here?

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
23. Not so much. Are DUers being cruel? If so, does anyone here have the power and reach of Trump?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:41 PM
Feb 2023

I’m not entirely sure what sparked your question — because I tired rather quickly of the conversation on the first day. I initially thought, and said, that it was time for her to go home and chill out. I thought what other people were saying was tedious.

I tossed in my opinion today as a counter-narrative to what I scanned in this thread. I think she’s a naif who could end up really hurt by Trump, who has a track record in these matters.

That’s all, really.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
28. "DUers being cruel"? Oh, surely you jest.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 03:24 PM
Feb 2023

Most threads here about her can be found the very first day she spoke up to NBC.

PufPuf23

(9,854 posts)
54. In a worse case, that is the reason why she was put on camera.
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 01:18 AM
Feb 2023

I don't think her appearances helped but may have distracted (like here at DU).

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
17. She didn't do anything wrong or illegal. But that doesn't mean she should have.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:11 PM
Feb 2023

She didn't help matters and gave the Orange Slob something to sic his lawyers on to delay things. It won't work of course but we could have done without her tossing him that.

Other than that...I don't really care - as it won't affect the outcome one way or another in the end. I just think her appearance / speaking on the matter was ill-advised, even if legal and not rule-breaking.

In her defense. we all do stupid stuff that - while not illegal or breaking any rules - is just - dumb. This is IMO one of them. She could have been me or any of us though. These are the kind of people who serve on GJs. My relatives have done it (scarier than Ms. Kohrs doing it since they're MAGAts).

 

GGoss

(1,273 posts)
18. If It Weren't For The Fact That Our Side Of The Aisle Is Absolutely DYING, CRAVING,
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:22 PM
Feb 2023

DEMANDING some sort of justice and retribution for that last 6 or 7 (20 - 40) years, I don't think she would be a big deal at all.

It's really hard to hold your breath for multiple years.

I had to learn to relax after all the mishegoss of the GWBush years.

Gore having the Presidency stolen was not an easy pill to swallow, and we ALL wanted to see this:



But I soon realized that it was ME that was gonna have the coronary if I didn't take a chill pill or two.

So I try to be zen about things these days...

I always liked President Bartlett's admonition after each crisis or task, "What's next ?"

I'm trying to live a bit that way these days.

The girl was asked to do what they call a "heavy lift". I think she did her service just fine, and I thank her.

If it's a jury of one's peers, well... I ain't gonna be on this here mortal coil much longer, so I gladly turn the reigns over to the young. When I look back at old photos and yearbooks of mine, we thought we knew it all too.




 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
21. She's doing trump WAY too many favors.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:32 PM
Feb 2023

She needs to confine herself to Grand Jury duties right now, and leave the wide-eyed media tour until sometime later.

dpibel

(3,944 posts)
44. What grand jury duties?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 06:48 PM
Feb 2023

The special GJ is done.

So what are these duties you think she should confine her lil' self to?

Raven

(14,275 posts)
22. I felt sorry for her. She did not appear very sophisocated to me and I
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:33 PM
Feb 2023

wished that someone had taken her aside and warned her not to do interviews. I do think she was intelligent and was able to avoid crossing the line and divulging more than she was allowed to by the Court. She went right into the buzz saw of Trumpian politics, which is too bad because now she is free game for all the nuts out there.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
53. That was my thought.
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 01:13 AM
Feb 2023

Typically the foreperson is chosen because they have leadership qualities, etc. If SHE was the best candidate, that makes me concerned about who the other members were.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
29. She knew exactly what she was doing. Never judge a book by its cover.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 03:27 PM
Feb 2023

While serving in the Army I met a guy from the mountains of West Virginia. Moonshine country. He was friendly and he had the slowest southern drawl I have ever heard in my life. It made you think he was stupid. After I got to know him I learned he had an IQ that was off the charts.

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
30. Either we support the First Amendment or we don't.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 03:41 PM
Feb 2023

If she wanted to speak publicly, that’s her right, especially if she was told it was acceptable.

Lettuce Be

(2,355 posts)
32. She proves you can be a repug "fan girl" and still be a good jurist
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:00 PM
Feb 2023

She seemed giddy at meeting Giuliani (egads) yet her admiration did not cloud her judgment. I think this is a net positive.

Any upcoming trials involving any of the members of congress, ex-vice presidents, etc. will have a jury composed of some that like them and some that do not. A reasoned person can separate their personal feelings or beliefs to render a verdict when given the facts.

I have seen almost none of her interviews, only caught a bit where she stated how much she admired Giuliani and then I turned the channel.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
34. I think these interviews
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:09 PM
Feb 2023

Should NEVER have happened. It is unbelievable that it is even allowed but this is an INSANE country overall and it is getting worse by the minute. Who knows what her motivations are. She is crazy imo. I and others have every right to judge what she did, and her crazy behavior etc.

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
36. I guess I am in the minority on these interviews?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:18 PM
Feb 2023

I think she has forced them to move off the dime. If Trump and his lawyers choose to try to quash the indictments, that will only focus attention on their crimes even more. I think she maybe has out-smarted Trump and his lawyers? Where would we be is she had said nothing? In my opinion, she got the ball rolling and that is not a bad thing.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
37. Forced who to move off the dime?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:24 PM
Feb 2023

I am not sure what you mean by that. Anything like this makes matters worse imo but especially with someone like her. She is also a RG and LG FAN from what she said. I feel ill thinking about this. I have stopped watching most news because I can’t stand this bs anymore and the insanity. Please wake me up if anything resembling justice/ accountability, and a return to sanity ever happens.

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
38. Obviously she did not listen to Rudy if he said the election was stolen.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:32 PM
Feb 2023

She voted with everyone else, unanimously, that there was no fraud in the Georgia election.

She has already gotten a conversation started, even from Trump's attorneys, and I think this will make it easier for Fani Willis to move forward. The world did not end with her comments. And neither will the case against the criminals.

I do not see it as that much of a negative. In the end, the "real" Grand Jury will follow the evidence, just as the Special Grand Jury has done, I hope.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
39. So she says
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:34 PM
Feb 2023

I don’t believe a word she says actually, and I don’t trust her a bit. Even if it doesn’t do any damage to this process it’s still a terrible thing, it should never have happened.

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
40. Do you believe she was serious with her comments about Rudy and Lindsey?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:37 PM
Feb 2023

Maybe she was playing them also?

She did say she wanted to see "something done".

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
42. I only saw snippets of what she said
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 05:44 PM
Feb 2023

Because she is not credible imo due to her behavior and it made me ill. I have no clue if anything she said is true, some of it may be. She is not someone who inspires confidence, and imo not someone who should be on a jury etc. imo she turned this whole process into even more of a joke along with the media.. this is not funny obviously.

dpibel

(3,944 posts)
46. Judging based on snippets?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 07:02 PM
Feb 2023

Don't you think a diagnosis of crazy should be based on all the available evidence? In post 42 you say you've watched no more than snippets. I think you could be conclusion jumping.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
47. I watched all of what was shown on two evening shows
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 10:17 PM
Feb 2023

They didn't show the entire interview as far as I am aware. It was more than enough for me- yemv. It was so sickening to see I could barely watch. I have no plans to waste more of my time on that loon.

And again as I said imo if this were a normal country interviews such as this one would not be allowed at all whether the person is crazy, has ulterior motives and so on, or not.

dpibel

(3,944 posts)
48. So you think the judge is crazy, also?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 10:24 PM
Feb 2023

Because he seems to have been just fine with the grand jurors talking if they wanted to, within the limits he defined.

What is it in particular that makes this an "interview[] such as this one"? That is to say, what is so abhorrent to you that you believe it would happen in no sane country?

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
49. I think I have made it clear how I feel about this
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 10:28 PM
Feb 2023

Please reread my posts. If you think otherwise that is fine

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
50. The interview shpuld not be allowed?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 11:18 PM
Feb 2023

Do we have 1A rights or not?

She didn’t break any laws, did nothing wrong rules wise according to the judge but you think she should be allowed to do an interview because…. Reasons?

H2O Man

(79,053 posts)
55. Recommended.
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 01:22 AM
Feb 2023

Very high. I'll even say my opinion of her is extremely high.

Being familiar with the rules governing those from an investigative grand jury in that state, and hearing that the judge had provided instructions on what can and cannot be discussed with the media, I think it is great she spoke out.

On FB, I saw friends who felt she did something wrong. But they had no idea what they were talking about. Hopefully, those who were upset can admit they were wrong. 100% wrong.

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