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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,713 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 09:39 PM Feb 2023

Social Security: Proposal for $2,400 Extra in Checks Expanded and Reintroduced in Congress

On Feb. 13, Democratic Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) formally reintroduced The Social Security Expansion Act to Congress, and this time, he had a lot more support from fellow lawmakers pushing the initiative.

As GOBankingRates previously reported, the Social Security Expansion Act was first introduced on June 9 by Sanders and U.S. Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.). Under terms of the bill, anyone who is a current Social Security recipient, or who will turn 62 in 2023, would receive an extra $200 in each monthly check. Meaning, Social Security recipients could get an additional $2,400 a year in benefits if the bill wins approval — something seniors would no doubt welcome as inflation wipes out their annual cost-of-living increases.

While the initial June 9 introduction of the measure has remained dormant, Sanders and a new coalition of supporters — including cosigners Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Reps. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) and Val Hoyle (D-Ore.) — have renewed interest amid proposed cuts to Social Security as the U.S. faces its latest debt ceiling crisis.

The latest draft of the bill also provides a way forward for the severely underfunded program, ensuring that future generations can receive benefits through 2096 by taxing the highest earners in the country. According to a press release from Sanders’ office, this will be done “all without raising taxes by one penny on over 93% of American households that make $250,000 or less.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/retirement/social-security-proposal-for-2-400-extra-in-checks-expanded-and-reintroduced-in-congress/ar-AAYAxCo

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Social Security: Proposal for $2,400 Extra in Checks Expanded and Reintroduced in Congress (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2023 OP
I wish. My increase was immediately wiped out by increased utility bills and the ongoing LoisB Feb 2023 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author NowISeetheLight Feb 2023 #2
Do we know why they couldn't get this passed in 2022? Hortensis Feb 2023 #3
One word...filibuster Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #9
So, it won't pass either the House or Senate then. MichMan Feb 2023 #13
Thanks. I'm especially wondering because of the 2023 bill, and Hortensis Feb 2023 #17
So what chance do we think this has of happening? I'd say 0% n/t liberal_mama Feb 2023 #4
We can dream. Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #5
Eliminate the cap and SS would be quite flush with funds. panader0 Feb 2023 #6
Getting rid of the cap will go a long way to solving the problem, but it's not quite enough. progree Feb 2023 #7
Raise the minimum wage to $15... Wounded Bear Feb 2023 #14
like it republianmushroom Feb 2023 #8
What about those dependent on state Medicaid? Would this added amount cstanleytech Feb 2023 #10
Would people who have a public pension markodochartaigh Feb 2023 #11
I'd hope Riverman100 Feb 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #15
Pure symbolism... brooklynite Feb 2023 #16
Does Bernie think that President Biden Progressive dog Feb 2023 #18

LoisB

(13,028 posts)
1. I wish. My increase was immediately wiped out by increased utility bills and the ongoing
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 09:50 PM
Feb 2023

shock at the grocery store.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Do we know why they couldn't get this passed in 2022?
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 10:13 PM
Feb 2023

I read it had...50-something? members sign on (out of over 200 Dem members, 100ish in the progressive causus) but never made it to a vote. What are the issues that kept it from getting more support? In the house or senate, or house and senate? Would it have been more likely to have been passed if the "defund"/"socialism" noise during the 2020 election hadn't caused our big house majority to melt away to almost nothing?

On December 29, failing this and just before turning over the house to the Republicans, Biden signed the more limited bill into law that that does take the opportunity to address a number of issues. The article linked describes what is gained with this one; sadly the increase isn't an extra $2400/year, but otoh it was passed (!) and keeps the checks going out.



Older Americans will be better able to save and plan for their retirement and have more options for getting Medicare services at home under a sweeping 2023 spending bill President Joe Biden signed into law on Dec. 29.

The bipartisan measure, which lawmakers had raced to pass ahead of a Dec. 23 deadline to avert a federal government shutdown, provides a road map for spending through September 2023. The legislation passed the U.S. House of Representatives on Dec. 23 by a vote of 225-201 with one member voting "present." The measure had passed the U. S. Senate on Dec. 22 by a 68 to 29 vote. ...

“Funding for the Social Security Administration has steadily eroded over the past decade, while the number of people it serves has grown,” LeaMond says. “The higher funding included in this legislation is a needed step to begin to address this customer service crisis, but more must be done.” ...

https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2022/changes-to-medicare-services-retirement-requirements-congress-deciding.html

Fiendish Thingy

(23,236 posts)
9. One word...filibuster
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:36 PM
Feb 2023

That, and few Dems had the guts to pass a tax hike in an election year.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Thanks. I'm especially wondering because of the 2023 bill, and
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 11:57 AM
Feb 2023

what issues would have to be addressed, i.e., what changes would have to be made, to get majority support for it.

Big is that Soc Sec's always been a self-funded retirement program. Those checks are paid for by the people who receive them, not by transfer of wealth from general taxes. There is no employer "contribution." It's worker earnings that are paid directly to the fund instead of going home in the paychecks.

Changing self funding to taxing rich people to pay into our retirement is actually a really big deal, with its own political and economic risks to the long-term stability of the program.

When you think about it, it would create both public dependence on perpetuation of wealth and establish a right for the wealthy to be at the decision-making table. That alone makes me spit, but, undoubtedly, many people'd buy into the notion of need to protect those who "keep Soc Sec going" and to feel "grateful" to them. I've been nauseated many times in the past by idiot gratitude to the wealthy for gifts that keep afloat public institutions the people are supposed to pay for, like public colleges. It could either become part of or break growth of movement to finally tax the dangerously destructive and antidemocratic wealthy classes out of existence, as I believe we absolutely need to.

In any case, when factors finally come together and public attention focuses on the ideological issues (like if SCOTUS acts?), those backing this approach will already have gathered some support for taxing wealthy people to help fund it. We have to be concerned that an ideological shift could be weaponized to divide. Oh, hell, would be. Look at the manufactured healthcare divide over two for-profit healthcare systems in 2016.

As soon as 2024? What actual role will this approach play in the battle? On the other side, some Republican pols are already taking potentially personally risky stands on the need to cut benefits, and a few to destroy Soc Sec itself. What'll SCOTUS be doing?

progree

(12,977 posts)
7. Getting rid of the cap will go a long way to solving the problem, but it's not quite enough.
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 10:40 PM
Feb 2023
Social Security: Raising or Eliminating the Taxable Earnings Base, Congressional Research Service, Updated December 22, 2021,
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/RL32896.pdf
Social Security taxes are levied on covered earnings up to a maximum level set each year. In 2022, this maximum—formally called the contribution and benefit base, and commonly referred to as the taxable earnings base or the taxable maximum—is $147,000.

... If no credits to benefits are provided for earnings above the current taxable earnings base (i.e., earnings above the current taxable earnings base do not count toward benefits),38 the increased revenue would eliminate 73% of the projected shortfall and the program would have a projected shortfall equal to about 0.96% of taxable payroll. Under this scenario, the payroll tax rate would need to be increased from 12.40% to about 13.36% or other policy changes would have to be made for the system to be solvent for the next 75 years. However, the traditional link between the level of wages that is taxed and the level of wages that counts toward benefits would be broken.

... If all wages counted toward benefits as they are now, the trust fund would be depleted in 2054; 57% of the projected financial shortfall in the Social Security program would be eliminated. To achieve solvency for the full 75-year projection period, the option would require an increase of about 1.54% in total payroll tax rate (from 12.40% to 13.94%) or other policy changes would have to be made to cover the shortfall.

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
14. Raise the minimum wage to $15...
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 12:09 AM
Feb 2023

all the contributors at the bottom of the scale would pay twice as much into the system.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
10. What about those dependent on state Medicaid? Would this added amount
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:40 PM
Feb 2023

push them over from qualifying for it?

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
11. Would people who have a public pension
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:46 PM
Feb 2023

and thus subject to the Windfall Provision get $200, or only a part of the $200?

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Progressive dog

(7,603 posts)
18. Does Bernie think that President Biden
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 06:41 PM
Feb 2023

will support a bill raising social security taxes on incomes below $400,000?

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