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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,578 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 10:29 PM Feb 2023

Doctors who touted ivermectin as covid fix now pushing it for flu, RSV

First, the group of doctors championed ivermectin as a covid panacea. It failed to live up to the hype. Now, they’re promoting the anti-parasitic to prevent and treat the flu and RSV.

The Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance, formed in 2020 to “prevent and treat covid,” is touting ivermectin for common respiratory infections amid a dramatic drop in prescriptions for the drug as clinical trials undermined claims of its efficacy against covid.

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“Profiting from bunk and nonsense has no place in ethical medicine,” said Arthur Caplan, head of the division of medical ethics at the New York University Grossman School of Medicine who called the alliance’s promotion of ivermectin for covid, flu and RSV “fraud during a pandemic on a significant scale.”

The alliance’s co-founders Pierre Kory, a Wisconsin critical care doctor, and Paul Marik, whose medical license expired in 2022 according to Virginia licensing records, declined through the alliance’s spokesman to be interviewed. Marik said through the spokesman that he chose not to renew his license.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/02/26/ivermectin-use-covid-flu-rsv/

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Doctors who touted ivermectin as covid fix now pushing it for flu, RSV (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2023 OP
I like my doctors to not be stupid bastards. chicoescuela Feb 2023 #1
👆👆👆 Drum Feb 2023 #2
Kick dalton99a Feb 2023 #3
Ugh Blue Owl Feb 2023 #4
Will Aaron Rodgers push for it too? LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #5
It's starting to sound canetoad Feb 2023 #6
why have they not been indicted for what they did? Fraud is a crime Takket Feb 2023 #7
How many of these docs are invested in Ivermectin? MiniMe Feb 2023 #8
It's got antifungal properties so it would work for athlete's foot jmowreader Feb 2023 #28
You're probable right about athlete's foot MiniMe Feb 2023 #29
No, or most of the other things they want it for jmowreader Feb 2023 #30
Is that the sound of a duck I hear? DBoon Feb 2023 #9
I guess I should stock up MuseRider Feb 2023 #10
That's exactly where they were getting it. During the worst part of the pandemic... keep_left Feb 2023 #11
I had my supply MuseRider Feb 2023 #18
Used it with my horses, too. Wondered how people were calculating the dose they needed because allegorical oracle Feb 2023 #19
Idiots. MuseRider Feb 2023 #20
... sprinkleeninow Feb 2023 #12
I hear it cures ED Kennah Feb 2023 #13
I heard that it will balance the budget. Ray Bruns Feb 2023 #23
Paul Marik wasted his gravitas and position in critical care Medicine NNguyenMD Feb 2023 #14
I'm surprised they have not been struck off Mr. Sparkle Feb 2023 #15
They should all have their licenses revoked. ananda Feb 2023 #16
Shitehawks on patrol. Celerity Feb 2023 #17
Reasoning, horses never catch the flu? Emile Feb 2023 #21
suspect someone bought a shitload of supplies or stock when the prices were highest dembotoz Feb 2023 #22
They think it treats cancer too Johnny2X2X Feb 2023 #24
Several of those quacks have lost their medical licenses or been arrested IronLionZion Feb 2023 #25
So how many of these fraudsters... canuckledragger Feb 2023 #26
May it help reduce the surplus population. niyad Feb 2023 #27

MiniMe

(21,883 posts)
8. How many of these docs are invested in Ivermectin?
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 11:23 PM
Feb 2023

They would probably recommend Ivermectin for athlete's foot if they sunk a big investment into it.

jmowreader

(53,175 posts)
30. No, or most of the other things they want it for
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:58 PM
Feb 2023

"Ivermectin will cure the Bull Head Clap!"

"Yeah...that's because no one who has the Bull Head Clap will allow you near them once they learn you believe in ivermectin!"

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
10. I guess I should stock up
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 11:41 PM
Feb 2023

to keep my horses wormed.

Are they getting it somewhere else or are they using Ivermectin from the feed stores?

keep_left

(3,209 posts)
11. That's exactly where they were getting it. During the worst part of the pandemic...
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 12:28 AM
Feb 2023

...there were news stories about farm supply stores requiring horse owners to bring their titles with them to prove they really did own livestock. The ivermectin was often kept under lock and key.

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
18. I had my supply
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:27 AM
Feb 2023

last year so paid little attention to that area in the feed store.

Wow, that is so odd. This is Kansas so I am guessing there were actually some problems with it.

allegorical oracle

(6,469 posts)
19. Used it with my horses, too. Wondered how people were calculating the dose they needed because
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:41 AM
Feb 2023

it's based on a horse's body weight up to 1,200 lbs. Could be remembering incorrectly, but thought I read that people were overdosing on it, but don't recall whether that proved fatal or not.

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
20. Idiots.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:48 AM
Feb 2023

I don't know how they could have easily figured the dose but I have never really looked at how low it goes on the tube itself. I am more interested in the 1000 pound range.

NNguyenMD

(1,329 posts)
14. Paul Marik wasted his gravitas and position in critical care Medicine
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 07:04 AM
Feb 2023

Once considered a compelling authority at ICU conferences around the world, things took an odd turn a few years before the pandemic. He published a non-randomized study on the benefits of high dose Vitamin C and steroids for septic shock. It got a lot of good attention and spurred other ICU researchers to try to replicate his findings of an absurd benefit in survival. But Marik himself refused to repeat the study as a double blinded randomized control trial, which would have been a more convincing level of evidence. And he just became this stubborn old man from then on transforming to a dangerous stubborn old man who wants to stick it to the medicine “elites” he was once a member of. Once upon a time he made amazing contributions to pulmonary critical care medicine, now he will be remembered as a stubborn crazy old man who wouldn’t listen, similar ending to James Watson of Watson and Crick.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
22. suspect someone bought a shitload of supplies or stock when the prices were highest
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 11:11 AM
Feb 2023

and now they need to unload it

Johnny2X2X

(24,187 posts)
24. They think it treats cancer too
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 11:57 AM
Feb 2023

Next door neighbor had advanced bladder cancer that was spreading. She told her doctors she was done with chemo and radiation and that because some lady from her church group said so, she was going to treat her cancer with ivermectin. She died within 3 months of stopping treatment. Really a sweet lady, just mislead by religious extremism and Trumpism.

IronLionZion

(51,231 posts)
25. Several of those quacks have lost their medical licenses or been arrested
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 03:34 PM
Feb 2023

they are profiting from fraud and should be shut down. It's great that their victims tend to be stupid conservatives but it's still bad for America.

“If you threw Coca-Cola into cell culture, you would see an antiviral effect. But you wouldn’t want to be squirting Coca-Cola up your nose against the flu and RSV,” said John P. Moore, a professor of microbiology and immunology at Weill Cornell Medical College.
 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
26. So how many of these fraudsters...
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 08:17 PM
Feb 2023

Own shares in the company(s) that produce ivermectin?

When it's proven not to work and idiots still push it, it gets my spidey senses tingling.

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