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kpete

(72,901 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 06:47 PM Feb 2023

An open letter to Jimmy Carter from Michael Moore.

Dear President Carter:

I know you told me to call you Jimmy, but I couldn’t then. And I can’t now.

In 2004, you invited me to sit next to you in the presidential box at the Democratic National Convention in Boston. It was truly one of the great honors of my life. It also did you no favors, and in that moment I wondered why would you want to suffer the attacks for placing beside you the person who just a year earlier was booed off the stage at the Oscars for dressing down the commander in chief as a war criminal on the fifth night of the Iraq War.

But you didn’t care about the political reaction to you cozying up to me, the backlash you’d get from the 70% of the American public who supported the invasion of Iraq. You weren’t offended by me who had stood in front of a billion people stating that we were being lied into this war, that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, that we would find zero weapons of mass destruction, and that thousands of American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were about to die.

In fact, you agreed with me.

Adding more fuel to the fire as we sat there in your box was the fact that in 2,000 theaters across the country that summer, audiences were making Fahrenheit 9/11 the only documentary in history to become the #1 grossing movie in North America.

Right wing media went bananas over the shot on live TV of you wanting me to sit beside you as we watched over the nomination of the Democrat who would almost remove George W. Bush from office.

I had a great conversation that night with you and Rosalynn. Your running commentary on the Democrats was priceless. Your sense of humor was making it all bearable for me.

The news last weekend that you’ve decided to enter hospice — an “end of life” hospice as the news reports called it — was devastating. I broke down and cried. People will say that at 98 years old you’ve been blessed to live such a long life. And of course, that is true. But I’m not crying over you. I’m crying for us. We need 10,000 more of you, not one less as you leave us. Pundits will continue to “explain” and misunderstand your presidency. The Right despises you because you’re the Christian they fake-claim to be themselves. You’ve lived like a true Christian — humble, kind, forgiving, and always making sure your actions matched your words. You could have had a lucrative post-presidency, raking in the big bucks by sitting on corporate boards and investing in growth capitalism (greed).

Instead, you chose to be a carpenter. You spent your weekends for free building homes for the poor. Most of us had never heard the words “Habitat for Humanity” before you. You set up a center to promote democracy and you personally traveled all over the world to help oversee free and fair elections. For decades you did this — until sadly we needed you to protect us from our own anti-democracy authoritarians at home.

You also traveled the world helping to eradicate disease and perhaps save the lives of millions. For the better part of the three decades after you returned to Plains you wrote nearly a book a year. Few presidents have been as literarily prolific. Who would’ve imagined, almost a quarter of the way through the 21st century, that simply not being an illiterate was the new bar for a politician? You set the highest of goals: Thinking matters. Words matter. Reading and more reading is essential. Listening to others, and caring about what they say and what they need is everything.

You were the first president to speak out for the rights of the Palestinians. Almost 50 years ago, back before it was too late, you installed solar panels on the roof of the White House. Ronald Reagan made a big deal out of tearing them off the roof as one of his first “official” acts as president. You never started a war and when Iran kidnapped Americans as hostages and held them for over a year, you didn’t retaliate by wiping out Iran. You were not on the Left (you signed the Hyde Amendment and you brought back required registration for the draft, but years ago you said you regretted both and today, your idea of a Democrat is much closer to Bernie and AOC than, say, to the former senator, Joe Biden).

Speaking of which, one thing I remember about that day in your presidential box was that, in addition to meeting you, I got to spend time with your son Chip and your very cool daughter Amy. And it’s where I met Joe Biden for the first time. I guess he heard you had quite a spread of food so he just popped in to grab a plate of goodies. He saw me there with you and flipped out with glee. “I was raised in the Flint of Pennsylvania!” he exclaimed. Like someone who was proud of the comparison, and I was happy he made it. It was the first moment I saw what would later become the new Joe Biden — regretful of his treatment of Anita Hill, acknowledging the racist “mistakes” of the 1994 Crime Bill, and becoming the loopy, too-honest BFD VP to our first Black President. I sat and had an intense talk with Biden in that dining area of your box, and twelve Biden F-bombs later, I decided I liked him. He didn’t have to be me. And I didn’t have to be you for you to invite me to sit with your family.

FOX News kept cutting away to what they were calling the “Odd Couple” shot of you and me. Or of you and me and Rosalynn. Back in those days it must have seemed weird. But with the installment of an idiot like George W. Bush — America had already entered its CrazyTown Era, and we had begun our slow creep to the edge.

I know that you’ve lovingly decided to spend your final days with your family. So I haven’t called or emailed or texted. If your family wants to read this to you because it’ll bring a smile, then great. But mostly I wanted to give the public a chance to join with me and thank you for what you have done for humanity and for this planet. Please take all this gratitude with you. Please know that you mattered to all of us, you made a huge difference, you fought for those who had the least, and for those deemed to be the last you did your best to make them first.

Jimmy, we love you.
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/dear-president-carter?r=f7s8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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An open letter to Jimmy Carter from Michael Moore. (Original Post) kpete Feb 2023 OP
I believe that History, if honest, will be very kind to Jimmy Carter. LoisB Feb 2023 #1
"if honest" FoxNewsSucks Feb 2023 #34
They used the hostage situation in Iran to label his presidency a failure. LoisB Feb 2023 #48
and the economy, which was reeling from issues that preceded him AdamGG Feb 2023 #56
I will never understand the sainthood of that B-movie actor. Running up the debt LoisB Feb 2023 #58
He became a saint to all the people who wnylib Feb 2023 #60
You are absolutely correct. Thank you. LoisB Feb 2023 #64
Now looking back, it looks like part of a right-wing conspiracy SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #70
He was one of the few that put truth above popularity. Woodwizard Feb 2023 #43
If my memory serves me correctly, one of St. Ronnie's first agenda items was the removal of the LoisB Feb 2023 #46
Such a petty act, removing the solar panels. 3catwoman3 Feb 2023 #69
So did I. LoisB Feb 2023 #71
Hated him as governor of CA and reviled him as President. lark Feb 2023 #76
Not least: Carter popped the OPEC price bubble - and made the "Reagan recovery" possible peppertree Feb 2023 #68
A truly beautiful letter malaise Feb 2023 #2
Wow, Michael Moore! Auggie Feb 2023 #3
K; R with pleasure CatWoman Feb 2023 #4
Beautiful tribute, MM. Thanks for sharing it. K&R crickets Feb 2023 #5
Damned Onions... GGoss Feb 2023 #6
😥💔 rubbersole Feb 2023 #19
Well said, Mr. Moore, and a rec for this thread. Xavier Breath Feb 2023 #7
Heartfelt Abigail_Adams Feb 2023 #8
admire them both dembotoz Feb 2023 #9
Made us both cry over here... Hekate Feb 2023 #10
Feeling a lump rising in my throat... calimary Feb 2023 #11
The last 2 sentences brought on the waterworks. Boomerproud Feb 2023 #12
Deserves a continuous kick!! bluestarone Feb 2023 #13
yep, AND CatWoman Feb 2023 #14
and. YEP Martin Eden Feb 2023 #24
Loving and heartfelt Wild blueberry Feb 2023 #15
One of the best posts I've read in ages. I cry too easy, dang it. Ziggysmom Feb 2023 #16
K&R MustBeTheBooz Feb 2023 #17
Very well said... kentuck Feb 2023 #18
Great letter of love and gratitude! peggysue2 Feb 2023 #20
Great tribute from MM. Fun fact: those solar panels went to Unity College, Maine and are still there Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #21
Reagan pulling those off the roof of the White House was ... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2023 #26
"owning the libs" had it's roots? As did "I wish they had killed more of them" after Kent State. nt Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #27
Who said that? Probatim Feb 2023 #42
Reagan, when he was governor of CA according to staffers in the room with him when he heard. Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #61
We need 10,000,000 milion more like him! BigmanPigman Feb 2023 #22
I listen to Moore's podcast regularly and he cilla4progress Feb 2023 #23
I'm not crying, YOU'RE crying A HERETIC I AM Feb 2023 #25
We both are Kennah Feb 2023 #29
I've always love Carter drmeow Feb 2023 #28
I was with him until he took a shot at Biden...n/t Lucinda Feb 2023 #30
That's not a "shot" FoxNewsSucks Feb 2023 #31
Yeah, what shot? ShazzieB Feb 2023 #36
Apparently for some, there must always be something to bash Michael Moore for. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2023 #51
Yeah, could have done without that, but the rest of it was a great read. nt Lisa0825 Feb 2023 #37
What was wrong with it? FoxNewsSucks Feb 2023 #50
Agreeing with Lucinda ahlnord Feb 2023 #44
What "shot"??? FoxNewsSucks Feb 2023 #49
Since it was moore's letter, he can "inject " what he wants questionseverything Feb 2023 #52
Absolutely. betsuni Feb 2023 #53
Agree, more than one shot. betsuni Feb 2023 #54
He recovered quickly though ecstatic Feb 2023 #63
+1 MrsCoffee Feb 2023 #77
That's one of the most beautiful things I've ever read, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2023 #32
Thank You For This ConstanceCee Feb 2023 #33
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2023 #35
It turns my stomach to hear republicans reminiscing about Ronald Reagan. pink Feb 2023 #38
Well said. Wonderful tribute by MM for one the finest presidents ever. Then Raygun, decline. appalachiablue Feb 2023 #75
K&R UTUSN Feb 2023 #39
Crying. PurgedVoter Feb 2023 #40
Thank you Mr. Moore GeoWilliam750 Feb 2023 #41
Very well said! lees1975 Feb 2023 #45
Nice. President Carter was a humble gentleman who didn't flout his considerable intellect. Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #47
It just this second occurred to me soldierant Feb 2023 #55
K&R! burrowowl Feb 2023 #57
thank you mr. moore. that letter is beautiful dawn5651 Feb 2023 #59
K&R spanone Feb 2023 #62
K & R mountain grammy Feb 2023 #65
Knr GPV Feb 2023 #66
President Carter, Jimmy, certainly represented all that's good and possible for humanity. lark Feb 2023 #67
++ appalachiablue Feb 2023 #74
K&R. Wednesdays Feb 2023 #72
MacKenzie Scott disndat Feb 2023 #73

FoxNewsSucks

(11,692 posts)
34. "if honest"
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:32 PM
Feb 2023

That's the problem. History, in the form of corporate media, has yet to be honest about Carter. Too busy propping up Saint Raygun and other republicon scum.

AdamGG

(1,881 posts)
56. and the economy, which was reeling from issues that preceded him
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 02:27 AM
Feb 2023

But, too many people buy labeling him as a failure for it because Reagan sold them on it. And then Reagan cut rich people's taxes and ran up the country's credit card and left shattering debt.

LoisB

(13,013 posts)
58. I will never understand the sainthood of that B-movie actor. Running up the debt
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 03:27 AM
Feb 2023

then blaming that debt on Democrats is what Republicans do and many people continue to believe it.

wnylib

(25,994 posts)
60. He became a saint to all the people who
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 09:36 AM
Feb 2023

hate anyone who is not white, not a fundamentalist Christian, or who is poor enough to need assistance of any kind.

He spoke for the haters, just like Trump does. That's how Raygun became Saint Ronnie and TFG became the Chosen One. The haters love anyone who hates and hate anyone who loves.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
70. Now looking back, it looks like part of a right-wing conspiracy
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 02:02 PM
Feb 2023

How quickly the so-called rebels surrendered the embassy when raygun was installed.

Woodwizard

(1,320 posts)
43. He was one of the few that put truth above popularity.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:45 PM
Feb 2023

I was a teenager when he was in office I really was into his devotion to environmental policy and promoting renewable energy.

It was one of the reasons he lost along with Iran.

But throughout my life I kept energy efficiency on the top of my list, from vehicles to appliance efficiency. Then putting solar on our house in 2014. And I think if he had a seond term I might have been able to afford solar much earlier from more support from the government to the industry.

Instead we got Saint Ronny who actively tossed it all in the trash.

LoisB

(13,013 posts)
46. If my memory serves me correctly, one of St. Ronnie's first agenda items was the removal of the
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 11:02 PM
Feb 2023

solar panels from the White House. How different things would be now if Carter had a second term and Bush had not been selected by SCOTUS to "win" over Gore.

lark

(26,079 posts)
76. Hated him as governor of CA and reviled him as President.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 06:20 PM
Feb 2023

I was at a conference one time and we were supposed to show commonality by shouting out things everyone would agree to. If anyone disagreed, they yelled out and the item wasn't listed, otherwise it was listed as a commonality. One of the first things was "We love President Reagan" - I immediately raised my hand and disagreed. The look of utter astonishment I got from most of the attendees was truly staggering. I have never felt more like a stranger in a strange land. But at least that didn't get listed on the board!

peppertree

(23,331 posts)
68. Not least: Carter popped the OPEC price bubble - and made the "Reagan recovery" possible
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 12:15 PM
Feb 2023

He very seldom gets credit for that - but it was one of the hardest things any president has had to do over the last 50 years, and he succeeded.

calimary

(89,977 posts)
11. Feeling a lump rising in my throat...
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 07:54 PM
Feb 2023

I’m glad President Carter is still around while we’re all smart and sensible enough to thank him - and publicly appreciate him while he’s still here.

Boomerproud

(9,291 posts)
12. The last 2 sentences brought on the waterworks.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 07:59 PM
Feb 2023

I saw Michael in 2004 at a Kerry campaign rally with the Goo Goo Dolls and Viggo Mortensen. The Palace Theater in Columbus was packed and it was a hopeful evening. So long ago.

Evolve Dammit

(21,768 posts)
21. Great tribute from MM. Fun fact: those solar panels went to Unity College, Maine and are still there
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 08:26 PM
Feb 2023

A HERETIC I AM

(24,876 posts)
26. Reagan pulling those off the roof of the White House was ...
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:02 PM
Feb 2023

A HUGE act of Republican bullshit if there ever was one.

Evolve Dammit

(21,768 posts)
27. "owning the libs" had it's roots? As did "I wish they had killed more of them" after Kent State. nt
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:05 PM
Feb 2023

Probatim

(3,285 posts)
42. Who said that?
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:42 PM
Feb 2023

Not that I don't doubt its utterance, but that's some shit - even for the shittiest people on the planet.

Evolve Dammit

(21,768 posts)
61. Reagan, when he was governor of CA according to staffers in the room with him when he heard.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 09:36 AM
Feb 2023

drmeow

(5,989 posts)
28. I've always love Carter
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:06 PM
Feb 2023

I was in HS when Raygun (i.e., Bush senior) stole that election by gambling with American lives (although we didn't know it then) and my yearbook has multiple people giving me s**t about hating Raygun! I knew then that he was going to damage this country - but I had not idea that it would be the start of this horrible, horrible, horrible road we've been on!

ShazzieB

(22,578 posts)
36. Yeah, what shot?
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:55 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:45 AM - Edit history (1)

He said very nice things about Biden. Yes, he expressed feeling that Biden hasn't always been perfect, but I see nothing wrong with that. Especially since he acknowledged how much Joe had grown and was continuing to grow. The piece was much more positive toward Biden than otherwise.

MM always says exactly what he thinks. I like that about him, even when I don't agree with him 100%.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,692 posts)
51. Apparently for some, there must always be something to bash Michael Moore for.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 11:15 PM
Feb 2023

I thought it was well put, and agree. Biden 30+ years ago wasn't the same, and he's proven as President to be far better than I'd hoped.

Moore also said, and I guess it was overlooked, that he liked Biden from that first meeting.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,692 posts)
50. What was wrong with it?
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 11:11 PM
Feb 2023

Most of us think the same. It acknowledges the growth of Biden between then and now. MM is not the only one to have seen this. And in fact, the passage being called a "shot" acknowledges MM's liking of Biden then as well.

ahlnord

(117 posts)
44. Agreeing with Lucinda
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:45 PM
Feb 2023

I hear you, Lucinda. I was nodding my head as I read, with a lump in my throat, until the shot at Biden and the promo of Bernie. Then all I could think was, "Augh...! you just couldn't help yourself, could you? You HAD to go there?" It was a regrettable distraction from a sincere, well-deserved tribute to our beloved President Carter. It is inappropriate to use the last days of Jimmy Carter as a platform to reopen differences and rifts in the Democratic Party. We already know Michael Moore's political opinions. He did not need to inject them into this reverent moment.

betsuni

(29,067 posts)
54. Agree, more than one shot.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:37 AM
Feb 2023

Bringing up the 1994 Crime Bill used in the last two presidential elections to imply Democrats are racists, to discourage voting for them. As if Biden used to be a huge racist masterminding a Democratic plot to throw everybody in prison and keep them there forever, but he's changed, probably. What does that have to do with Carter?

Moore knows the bill was bipartisan and the excessive incarceration additions were Republican. The assault rifle ban, more funding for crime prevention, more funding for police (Vermont received $43 million) and so on were Democratic and why Bernie Sanders voted for it. He gave the same reasons as most at the time, that communities demanded government action because crime was so bad, they had to do something, the bill was "a major step forward in controlling and preventing crime" even though of course it had problems, "I think there is no disagreement among all of us that we need strong law enforcement ... clearly there are people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply violent and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars to protect society from them."

But then Republicans took over Congress, as Rep. Clyburn explains, "We operated on the theory that we were not going to lose in '94. We put stuff in there we thought we would build on. But then we lost in 1994 and all the punitive stuff, the Republicans kept all that and got rid of some of the good stuff." And of course the assault rifle ban couldn't be renewed during the Bush administration. But everything is Democrats' fault!

Misinformation about the crime bill is still used against Democrats.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archives/2019/09/joe-biden-crime-bill-and-americans-short-memory/597547/

ecstatic

(35,074 posts)
63. He recovered quickly though
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 10:05 AM
Feb 2023

I had the WTF / eye roll moment while reading it but Moore recovered quickly and it ended up adding some interesting, albeit unnecessary, context.

The same guy who enjoyed Michael Moore also enjoyed Joe Biden. And Joe Biden actually paid attention to and knew about Michael Moore, including knowing Moore's hometown.

I think it was a good lesson for Moore to understand that you can't make assumptions about who a person is. Clearly, the lesson wasn't fully absorbed because Moore framed the Joe he met as a new/reformed version. No, he just wasn't what you assumed him to be.

ConstanceCee

(374 posts)
33. Thank You For This
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:32 PM
Feb 2023

A beautiful letter with beautiful memories. Thank you, Michael Moore. We (the world) have been lucky to have Jimmy Carter as one of us for as long as we did.

pink

(532 posts)
38. It turns my stomach to hear republicans reminiscing about Ronald Reagan.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:05 PM
Feb 2023

Ronald Reagan, the president who held back the release of the hostages until the day after his inauguration so that President Carter would get no credit for it.

Reagan, the president who invented Reaganomics which proved to be a total disaster.

Reagan, the president who in private conversations referred to African Americans as monkeys.

Reagan, the president who, during his presidency, ignored this new deadly virus on the scene, commonly known as AIDS. He even refused to mention the word.

Jimmy Carter, the virtual unknown peanut farmer from Plains, Georgia, served his presidency with compassion and intellect. Sadly the chance of a second term was taken from him due to world circumstances. He will probably be remembered more for the good he did for humanity post his presidential years. I am grateful that he served your country with humility and honor. I am Australian and I certainly know what a good president looks like. He will be remembered as one of the great American presidents.

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
75. Well said. Wonderful tribute by MM for one the finest presidents ever. Then Raygun, decline.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 05:25 PM
Feb 2023

GeoWilliam750

(2,555 posts)
41. Thank you Mr. Moore
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:30 PM
Feb 2023

President Carter was the President America should have had.

Kind, generous, giving.

lees1975

(7,043 posts)
45. Very well said!
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:53 PM
Feb 2023

I can't help but think that we might not have headed down the path of craziness where we have gone if you had been re-elected.

Joinfortmill

(21,143 posts)
47. Nice. President Carter was a humble gentleman who didn't flout his considerable intellect.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 11:07 PM
Feb 2023

soldierant

(9,353 posts)
55. It just this second occurred to me
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:39 AM
Feb 2023

that Reagn stripping the solar panels off of the White House was exactly like this Congress stripping the Capitol ofmagnetometers.

dawn5651

(772 posts)
59. thank you mr. moore. that letter is beautiful
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 09:28 AM
Feb 2023

it was reported here about the iranian hostages and how there was a agreement that the hostages would not be released until jimmy carter was out of the white house ...and as history shows us that was fact.
president carter is a great man, who always helped where he could....

lark

(26,079 posts)
67. President Carter, Jimmy, certainly represented all that's good and possible for humanity.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 10:57 AM
Feb 2023

The hero of my lifetime, a person I will always honor and treasure and proud and happy that I got to vote for him twice.

disndat

(1,887 posts)
73. MacKenzie Scott
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:31 PM
Feb 2023

God bless MacKenzie Scott (ex-wife of Jeff Bezos) for her gift of $436 Million to Habitat For Humanity last year 2022.
so Jimmy Carter knows he is appreciated and remembered as a great humanitarian forever.

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