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Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:14 PM Feb 2023

NYC Mayor Adams is against separation of church and state



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“When we took prayers out of schools, guns came into schools.”

— NYC Mayor Eric Adams (D) speaking at the New York Public Library interfaith breakfast


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NYC Mayor Adams is against separation of church and state (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2023 OP
🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ onecaliberal Feb 2023 #1
What church? Srkdqltr Feb 2023 #2
Good Question, and here's what I say to "conservatives" on this issue: Martin Eden Feb 2023 #13
Eight and a half million people in NYC, and the voters chose Eric Adams gratuitous Feb 2023 #3
NYC is heavily Democratic; it is NOT heavily liberal brooklynite Feb 2023 #7
There's nothing "liberal" about the First Amendment gratuitous Feb 2023 #10
Take a look at a map... brooklynite Feb 2023 #12
It was also our First Time using Rank Choice Voting in the Primaries..... electric_blue68 Feb 2023 #18
I didn't put him down at all...I could see the problems coming. brooklynite Feb 2023 #28
This is what Ranked Choice voting got us . . . markpkessinger Feb 2023 #26
So a voting system is bad because you didn't like the result? brooklynite Feb 2023 #29
I didn't say that . . . markpkessinger Feb 2023 #33
They also gave the house to republicans. onecaliberal Feb 2023 #31
I know NYFlip Feb 2023 #32
Sorry Polybius Feb 2023 #37
He was a Repub 95-02 IbogaProject Feb 2023 #4
Oh! Didn't know that. Bah! electric_blue68 Feb 2023 #19
How people didn't recognize him as a trojan horse is beyond me. kysrsoze Feb 2023 #27
YUP. And as a cop at the time, especially a Black cop... LowerManhattanite Mar 2023 #46
He came in w ranked choice primary IbogaProject Mar 2023 #47
That's actually shocking Polybius Mar 2023 #48
Didn't we take prayer out of the public schools around 1850? Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #5
No, 1962 former9thward Feb 2023 #22
OK. But still, awfully long lead time between cause and effect. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #35
What kind of correlation is THAT?? no_hypocrisy Feb 2023 #6
The Venn diagram of people who want school prayer and oppose gun control is a circle Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2023 #8
Such childish crap. Caliman73 Feb 2023 #9
From his early days I haven't liked him and this stupid comment backs up my dislike of him kimbutgar Feb 2023 #11
Worst NYC mayor ever budkin Feb 2023 #14
+100 Duppers Feb 2023 #34
I agree NYFlip Feb 2023 #36
Bloomberg the best? Polybius Feb 2023 #38
This Meowmee Mar 2023 #44
He's a corrupt hypocrite Easterncedar Feb 2023 #15
This guy needs to go AntivaxHunters Feb 2023 #16
If the mayor thinks prayer keeps gunners from killing, he needs to go now. spanone Feb 2023 #17
Oh FFS!!! Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #20
Yeah, right. I'm sure that's what is behind all the school shootings... Wounded Bear Feb 2023 #21
For the millionth time, nobody "took prayer out of the schools". Kids pray every day Solomon Feb 2023 #23
Our problems have more to do with taking prayers out of homes, not schools. No matter what god you Samrob Feb 2023 #24
Many of us live our lives free from religion, just saying. Nevilledog Feb 2023 #25
Not suggesting lives have to include "religion" just humanity and decency taught by parents. Samrob Feb 2023 #39
What's up with New York Democrats? jalan48 Feb 2023 #30
I grew up in New York. phylny Feb 2023 #40
Sorry, Mr. Mayor, it's the law Rhiannon12866 Feb 2023 #41
Make no mistake about it dsc Mar 2023 #42
I can't stand that guy Skittles Mar 2023 #43
A pandering, cop-fellating embarrassment. LowerManhattanite Mar 2023 #45

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
13. Good Question, and here's what I say to "conservatives" on this issue:
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 02:13 PM
Feb 2023

Do you really want the government (local, state, federal) dictating what kind of prayers your children recite in school, and from which religion?

Do you realize that could very well include prayers from the Jewish and Muslim faiths?

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
7. NYC is heavily Democratic; it is NOT heavily liberal
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:28 PM
Feb 2023

Adams was elected in large part by support from ministers in African-American central Brooklyn.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. There's nothing "liberal" about the First Amendment
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:36 PM
Feb 2023

But perhaps the folks who got Mr. Adams elected aren't acquainted with the more arcane nuances of the Constitution. For a city that styles itself as the ultimate in cosmopolitan sophistication, NYC can be as parochial as any backwoods holler.

electric_blue68

(14,933 posts)
18. It was also our First Time using Rank Choice Voting in the Primaries.....
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 02:44 PM
Feb 2023

So it was a bit challenging, and an extra stressful year for me that I concentrated a lot less than usual on the candidates till the 2nd to last day of voting. I put him 3rd bc I didn't care that much for some of the others to put them down at all.

I really wanted Maya Riley to win, and put her first.

Then he was running against Curtis Sliwa so, yeah.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
26. This is what Ranked Choice voting got us . . .
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:43 PM
Feb 2023

I was a supporter of ranked choice voting. It sounded great in theory, but the results sure as hell are not convincing!

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
29. So a voting system is bad because you didn't like the result?
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:53 PM
Feb 2023

Under the old system we would have ended up with Adams v Garcia (Maya Wiley was never going to be in the top tier). Adams was still likely to win.

NYFlip

(324 posts)
32. I know
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 05:08 PM
Feb 2023

I didn’t vote for him in the primary. He bamboozled a lot of voters. In the general election it was him or the guardian angel We had very little choice.

IbogaProject

(2,841 posts)
4. He was a Repub 95-02
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:19 PM
Feb 2023

Adams was a registered Republican in the late 1990s and early 2000s
According to Politico, Adams was a registered Republican from 1995 to 2002. And according to City Limits, Adams said in 1995 that Republican values aligned with those of some Black voters, and by 1999, he was labeling himself a conservative Republican.

LowerManhattanite

(2,390 posts)
46. YUP. And as a cop at the time, especially a Black cop...
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 03:02 AM
Mar 2023

…a sure way to grease the skids for moving up in rank was to be vocal about being affiliated with the GOP, which a lot of rank and file do to curry favor with the NYPD’s longtime conservative brass.

IbogaProject

(2,841 posts)
47. He came in w ranked choice primary
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:54 AM
Mar 2023

So his share of our primary vote was small compared to the total electorate.

Polybius

(15,476 posts)
48. That's actually shocking
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:32 PM
Mar 2023

During those times, he founded 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement Who Care, and was always fighting against police brutality against minorities. He was absolutely hated by the right then. Bob Grant used to bring him up regularly.

Scrivener7

(51,004 posts)
5. Didn't we take prayer out of the public schools around 1850?
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:25 PM
Feb 2023

I thought it was Bishop Hughes who brought the suit because he didn't want Catholic kids to have to say Protestant prayers in school.

If I'm right, that's an awfully long lead time for this cause and effect.

former9thward

(32,077 posts)
22. No, 1962
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 03:35 PM
Feb 2023

The Supreme Court decision against official school prayers was Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962)

no_hypocrisy

(46,182 posts)
6. What kind of correlation is THAT??
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:28 PM
Feb 2023

By Adams' "logic," if we return the children to praying in school, all the guns would magically disappear????

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
9. Such childish crap.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:30 PM
Feb 2023

He certainly has the mindset of a Conservative. Simple and stupid answers to complex problems.

Really, it was the exact moment when prayer was "taken out of school" that guns came in? OR, and just hear me out, school shootings started to increase as the stressors in society, driven by economic problems, that impact families ability to take time to be with their children, when consumerism was promoted and pushed, where community ties started breaking down, when the media started breathlessly reporting on school shooters and the tragedies which gave people the power and notoriety that they craved, AND the proliferation and promotion of guns and violence as redemptive in our society; MAYBE, just MAYBE that had more to do with it than fucking "prayer".

Prayer was NEVER taken out of school. Kids can pray all they want. Teachers can pray all they want. What they CANNOT do is impose prayer on each other.

kimbutgar

(21,188 posts)
11. From his early days I haven't liked him and this stupid comment backs up my dislike of him
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:37 PM
Feb 2023

No dummy, guns violence increased when they took away the assault weapons ban.

I’m glad I don’t live In New York City.

spanone

(135,873 posts)
17. If the mayor thinks prayer keeps gunners from killing, he needs to go now.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 02:29 PM
Feb 2023

Such bullshit from NY mayor.

Solomon

(12,319 posts)
23. For the millionth time, nobody "took prayer out of the schools". Kids pray every day
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:23 PM
Feb 2023

in school, -- to escape the bully, -- to pass the test, etc. All day, every day.

Idiots.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
24. Our problems have more to do with taking prayers out of homes, not schools. No matter what god you
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:30 PM
Feb 2023

choose to serve, prayer or meditation and just plain parental compassion guidance is what is missing from homes. Anyone can "pray" wherever they want to and no one else can stop you. Parents should stop depending on schools to do what they should be doing at home concerning raising decent children.

jalan48

(13,883 posts)
30. What's up with New York Democrats?
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 04:56 PM
Feb 2023

We lost seats in the 2022 election that could have given us control of the House and now Adams is sounding like a Republican Christian fundamentalist?

LowerManhattanite

(2,390 posts)
45. A pandering, cop-fellating embarrassment.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:51 AM
Mar 2023

But…it was him or the conservative, crazy cat-lady Sliwa, so we opted for the lesser of two evils. 🤷🏾?♂️

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