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When we took prayers out of schools, guns came into schools.
NYC Mayor Eric Adams (D) speaking at the New York Public Library interfaith breakfast
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9:59 AM · Feb 28, 2023
onecaliberal
(32,894 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,317 posts)Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Do you really want the government (local, state, federal) dictating what kind of prayers your children recite in school, and from which religion?
Do you realize that could very well include prayers from the Jewish and Muslim faiths?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Do better NYC. Please.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Adams was elected in large part by support from ministers in African-American central Brooklyn.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But perhaps the folks who got Mr. Adams elected aren't acquainted with the more arcane nuances of the Constitution. For a city that styles itself as the ultimate in cosmopolitan sophistication, NYC can be as parochial as any backwoods holler.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Most of NYC is not cosmopolitan Manhattan below 110th St.
electric_blue68
(14,933 posts)So it was a bit challenging, and an extra stressful year for me that I concentrated a lot less than usual on the candidates till the 2nd to last day of voting. I put him 3rd bc I didn't care that much for some of the others to put them down at all.
I really wanted Maya Riley to win, and put her first.
Then he was running against Curtis Sliwa so, yeah.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)I was a supporter of ranked choice voting. It sounded great in theory, but the results sure as hell are not convincing!
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Under the old system we would have ended up with Adams v Garcia (Maya Wiley was never going to be in the top tier). Adams was still likely to win.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . I said I was unimpressed by the results. I stand by that.
onecaliberal
(32,894 posts)I didnt vote for him in the primary. He bamboozled a lot of voters. In the general election it was him or the guardian angel We had very little choice.
Polybius
(15,476 posts)It's hard to find a good Mayor here.
IbogaProject
(2,841 posts)Adams was a registered Republican in the late 1990s and early 2000s
According to Politico, Adams was a registered Republican from 1995 to 2002. And according to City Limits, Adams said in 1995 that Republican values aligned with those of some Black voters, and by 1999, he was labeling himself a conservative Republican.
electric_blue68
(14,933 posts)kysrsoze
(6,023 posts)LowerManhattanite
(2,390 posts)a sure way to grease the skids for moving up in rank was to be vocal about being affiliated with the GOP, which a lot of rank and file do to curry favor with the NYPDs longtime conservative brass.
IbogaProject
(2,841 posts)So his share of our primary vote was small compared to the total electorate.
Polybius
(15,476 posts)During those times, he founded 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement Who Care, and was always fighting against police brutality against minorities. He was absolutely hated by the right then. Bob Grant used to bring him up regularly.
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)I thought it was Bishop Hughes who brought the suit because he didn't want Catholic kids to have to say Protestant prayers in school.
If I'm right, that's an awfully long lead time for this cause and effect.
former9thward
(32,077 posts)The Supreme Court decision against official school prayers was Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962)
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,182 posts)By Adams' "logic," if we return the children to praying in school, all the guns would magically disappear????
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Caliman73
(11,744 posts)He certainly has the mindset of a Conservative. Simple and stupid answers to complex problems.
Really, it was the exact moment when prayer was "taken out of school" that guns came in? OR, and just hear me out, school shootings started to increase as the stressors in society, driven by economic problems, that impact families ability to take time to be with their children, when consumerism was promoted and pushed, where community ties started breaking down, when the media started breathlessly reporting on school shooters and the tragedies which gave people the power and notoriety that they craved, AND the proliferation and promotion of guns and violence as redemptive in our society; MAYBE, just MAYBE that had more to do with it than fucking "prayer".
Prayer was NEVER taken out of school. Kids can pray all they want. Teachers can pray all they want. What they CANNOT do is impose prayer on each other.
kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)No dummy, guns violence increased when they took away the assault weapons ban.
Im glad I dont live In New York City.
budkin
(6,714 posts)This guy is a fucking embarrassment.
+200
Polybius
(15,476 posts)His first term was elite.
How was he allowed to even be a candidate? Ugh.
Easterncedar
(2,322 posts)AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)He needs to be voted out. He's a DINO for all intents & purposes
spanone
(135,873 posts)Such bullshit from NY mayor.
Sky Jewels
(7,137 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)Solomon
(12,319 posts)in school, -- to escape the bully, -- to pass the test, etc. All day, every day.
Idiots.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)choose to serve, prayer or meditation and just plain parental compassion guidance is what is missing from homes. Anyone can "pray" wherever they want to and no one else can stop you. Parents should stop depending on schools to do what they should be doing at home concerning raising decent children.
Nevilledog
(51,197 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)jalan48
(13,883 posts)We lost seats in the 2022 election that could have given us control of the House and now Adams is sounding like a Republican Christian fundamentalist?
phylny
(8,386 posts)We never had prayer in school.
I'm 64 years old.
Rhiannon12866
(205,980 posts)dsc
(52,166 posts)the God in schools crowd are the same people who want LGBT people out.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)UGH
LowerManhattanite
(2,390 posts)But it was him or the conservative, crazy cat-lady Sliwa, so we opted for the lesser of two evils. 🤷🏾?♂️