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kentuck

(111,089 posts)
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:06 PM Mar 2023

Would you be surprised if you found out that some FBI agents were involved in attack on Capitol?

I remember how Rudy bragged about the help he was getting from FBI agents, both active and retired.

The FBI of Donald Trump and Christopher Wray were capable of joining the insurrection, in my opinion.

I doubt that a lot has changed with the FBI since January, 2021.

I would not be surprised if we heard this news.

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Would you be surprised if you found out that some FBI agents were involved in attack on Capitol? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2023 OP
Yes I would be surprised! I know there's good & bad in all organizations, but I would still be napi21 Mar 2023 #1
The RW is not beyond planting their own FBI sympathizers and then making look like Samrob Mar 2023 #40
Not in the least relayerbob Mar 2023 #2
I would be surprised if none were. hvn_nbr_2 Mar 2023 #27
Yeah. Active and retired. NCjack Mar 2023 #28
No Me. Mar 2023 #3
At this point it's probably easier to list who in the GOP wasn't involved. Initech Mar 2023 #4
As much as I hate to think it, you're most likely right Deuxcents Mar 2023 #21
I would be zero percent surprised. RockRaven Mar 2023 #5
I'd bet money on it. onecaliberal Mar 2023 #6
Well, the Government Accountability Office gab13by13 Mar 2023 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2023 #17
Nope. NewHendoLib Mar 2023 #8
Nope. live love laugh Mar 2023 #9
No. jrthin Mar 2023 #10
Of course not! BigmanPigman Mar 2023 #11
Not At All DET Mar 2023 #12
Not in the least. Especially if those agents were from the NY offices. niyad Mar 2023 #13
I'm certain there were dirty FBI in NYC. dhol82 Mar 2023 #14
No, not at all. n/t ms liberty Mar 2023 #15
Senate needs to talk to Chris Wray. spanone Mar 2023 #16
lol. No. Solly Mack Mar 2023 #18
I'm sure some were. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #19
wouldn't surprise me a bit gopiscrap Mar 2023 #20
No not at all I think some FBI are uncover Tree Lady Mar 2023 #22
NO.... JanLip Mar 2023 #23
I'd be more surprised if some of them weren't nini Mar 2023 #24
Weissmann: FBI agent who said there were no pre-January 6 warnings of violence... Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #25
no. AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #26
of course not. Even the good ones ecstatic Mar 2023 #29
No of course not. Demobrat Mar 2023 #30
The cancer of GOP has spread throughout government. It will be terminal if not excised. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2023 #31
Involved as in facilitating? Definitely! Bashing in windows? Less likely. DFW Mar 2023 #32
I would be shocked if they weren't involved. nt Raine Mar 2023 #33
This is a trick question right? Boomerproud Mar 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Boomerproud Mar 2023 #35
No. Secret Service was involved, too. nt RandiFan1290 Mar 2023 #36
After Trump nothing would surprise me! Emile Mar 2023 #37
No. roamer65 Mar 2023 #38
Sadly, no. scarletlib Mar 2023 #39
No, especially after the reporting about agents not wanting to search Mar-a-Grifto. Vinca Mar 2023 #41

napi21

(45,806 posts)
1. Yes I would be surprised! I know there's good & bad in all organizations, but I would still be
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:11 PM
Mar 2023

surprised. Oddly, Lawrence O'Donnell was just talking about the FBI on his show just now. All I heard his say was the agents helped Trump because they liked him.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
40. The RW is not beyond planting their own FBI sympathizers and then making look like
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 08:45 AM
Mar 2023

the entire insurrection was a Federal ops. That way they have it all ways. Don't be surprised if a couple of agents step forth and claim they were a part of a set up against Trump.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
2. Not in the least
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:13 PM
Mar 2023

It's very highly likely, and to me, has been pretty clear since that day. The far right has purposefully infiltrated almost every major part of the government. There's no accident, and it's not new

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
27. I would be surprised if none were.
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 01:48 AM
Mar 2023

In fact, I would be surprised if the rot didn't start at the head, Chris Wray, just like a rotting fish. The rot on the FBI has been strong since way before Leonard Peltier and MLK Jr.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. No
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:13 PM
Mar 2023

There were police and members of the military. As Larry O'D is saying...with the FBI you have good and bad. As example he brought up Martin Lither King jr. and the Whitey Bulger matter.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
5. I would be zero percent surprised.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:16 PM
Mar 2023

Same for every other federal law enforcement agency, intel agency, and DoD branch.

I don't see any justification for being surprised if that were to be revealed to be true. Those entities are huge (number-of-employee-wise), treat force as a means to an end, and tend towards right wing authoritarianism. If anyone ends up surprised when one of them is revealed to be an insurrectionist... that seems pretty naive to me.

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
7. Well, the Government Accountability Office
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:20 PM
Mar 2023

asked Christopher Wray to investigate the intelligence failures leading up to the J6 insurrection and last I checked, Wray has refused to do an investigation. So maybe we should start with Wray and work down?

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DET

(1,309 posts)
12. Not At All
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:38 PM
Mar 2023

Purely anecdotal, but the few FBI agents I’ve known have been strongly authoritarian, absolutely convinced that they’re right, and frankly kind of weird.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
14. I'm certain there were dirty FBI in NYC.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 11:41 PM
Mar 2023

Knew someone in 2016 who casually mentioned that the tangerine turd’s family knew that the fix was in on Hillary. Pretty sure it was through Giuliani.
The whole FBI needs to be vetted. Frankly, all levels of the government need to be vetted. The previous administration slimed everything.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
19. I'm sure some were.
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 12:16 AM
Mar 2023

After watching Lawrence O'Donnell talking tonight about corrupt Trump fan and FBI DC Field Office Chief Steven D'Antuono, I know there was at least one.

D'Antuono is the one who insisted he was "inclined to believe Trump" that Trump had given over all the classified documents last May. He was overruled by Main Justice, thankfully, and 100 more classified documents were recovered after the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago. D'Antuono was also the same guy who demonstrably lied that the FBI had no evidence at all of potential violence on January 6. FBI Director Chris Wray never investigated D'Antuono over this lie about Jan. 6 evidence. Instead he put him on the Trump documents investigation. That is OUTRAGEOUS.

D'Antuono resigned/retired from the FBI last December after the Special Counsel was appointed on the Trump investigation.

Tree Lady

(11,457 posts)
22. No not at all I think some FBI are uncover
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 01:26 AM
Mar 2023

Maga, Scientologists, maybe a few spies.

Playing it mostly straight while leaking info.

Kid Berwyn

(14,897 posts)
25. Weissmann: FBI agent who said there were no pre-January 6 warnings of violence...
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 01:33 AM
Mar 2023

…was the same FBI agent who wanted to give Dimdonnie the benefit of the doubt re documents search.

Andrew Weissmann appeared on Lawrence O’Donnell tonight.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
29. of course not. Even the good ones
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 01:50 AM
Mar 2023

bend over backwards to accommodate rethugs. It's sickening to watch.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
32. Involved as in facilitating? Definitely! Bashing in windows? Less likely.
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 04:07 AM
Mar 2023

I think they would not have risked an active FBI agent getting caught or identified bashing in the exterior windows of the Capitol. If that had happened, the subsequent lack of action on the part of the FBI would have been the smoking gun that brought the Bureau down.

But funneling information to the mob via its leaders in the House, the White House, or the Willard Hotel? That would mean that the FBI agents actively involved also either helped with, or at least were aware of, the effort to thwart aid to the Capitol police arriving until hours after the breach. I find that not only plausible, but probable.

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