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Qutzupalotl

(15,824 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 04:45 PM Mar 2023

Fox News has to renegotiate 60% of their cable contracts soon





4/ By now though, most people know that advertising revenue is really just gravy on top for Fox. They could have $0 in ad revenue and they'd still have a 90% profit margin. That's because they have guaranteed revenue from cable companies.

5/ Every cable company pays a fee to channels to carry them - it's called a carriage fee. It's usual a nominal fee though. Not for Fox News.

Fox News is the second most expensive channel on every one's cable bill (ESPN is #1). And that is by design.

6/ About 10 years ago, Fox News set out to leverage their rabid audience and insulate themselves from pressures of the ad industry.

I won't get into how they did it. But short of it is, they lied and bullied their way into getting cable companies to massively overpay for Fox News.

7/ Why's this matter? Well, Fox News has to renegotiate about 60% of all their cable contracts over the next year.

And they not only need to keep their currently inflated rate, they need to actually increase it by quite a bit to offset the ad losses.

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Something you can do: go to https://unfoxmycablebox.com/
and tell your provider you don't want to be forced to pay for deceptive programming.

Hey, it's something!
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Fox News has to renegotiate 60% of their cable contracts soon (Original Post) Qutzupalotl Mar 2023 OP
Good Luck NowISeetheLight Mar 2023 #1
Cable companies could drop FOX for ethical reasons, and.... Brother Buzz Mar 2023 #2
Their viewers are used to being taken lame54 Mar 2023 #4
Which raises the question... lame54 Mar 2023 #3
Keep in mind leftieNanner Mar 2023 #5
Our has fox and the Scientology channel Oppaloopa Mar 2023 #21
Talk about a horror two-fer SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #23
Coworkers in office tell me that no one, but no one, does celebrity gossip and Torchlight Mar 2023 #6
"Angelo" needs to learn about these contracts. PSPS Mar 2023 #7
I no longer have cable (except as an internet provider), but I'd guess streaming bundles... Silent3 Mar 2023 #8
Is this unrolled somewhere? hurple Mar 2023 #9
It is now. Qutzupalotl Mar 2023 #10
They should shift it to their "Premium" lineup and make viewers pay for it...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2023 #11
Didn't Fox sell off their entertainment division years ago? As I recall, the carriage fee... keep_left Mar 2023 #12
More motivation for me to 'cut the cable'. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2023 #13
I've completely cut the cord and I'm just part of a growing trend. F*ck cable. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #14
A lot of this information is inaccurate onenote Mar 2023 #15
Well, that's awkward Sympthsical Mar 2023 #24
Kickety Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2023 #16
THIS is the pressure point. UnFox. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #17
We don't pay for cable, BlueSky3 Mar 2023 #18
Thank you Oppaloopa Mar 2023 #19
I block Fox News, Fox Business bmichaelh Mar 2023 #20
I block all fox networks on my channel list SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #22

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
2. Cable companies could drop FOX for ethical reasons, and....
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 04:50 PM
Mar 2023

and continue charging the same amount and pocket the difference.

lame54

(39,771 posts)
3. Which raises the question...
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 04:50 PM
Mar 2023

Is Fox impervious to sunlight?

It would explain the lack of tans

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
5. Keep in mind
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 04:53 PM
Mar 2023

That the cable providers have to take ALL of the Fox programs. Fox sports and entertainment channels as a lump.

I have tried to tell our provider that I don't want Fox news. They tell me that I don't have a choice.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
6. Coworkers in office tell me that no one, but no one, does celebrity gossip and
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 05:01 PM
Mar 2023

lifestyle segments glossier or more effective than Fox can. That being the case, I'd guess the advertisers will stick it out until the cost/benefit equation changes dramatically. Though my household has taken its own modest steps to filter its message to a less crass and vulgar medium, my sneaking suspicion is Fox'll be around in one iteration or another for another generation.

That said, when a network's legal team argues that their news department's comments “cannot reasonably be interpreted as facts," that alone pretty much encapsulates (for my own purposes) their measure of standards and best practices.

PSPS

(15,321 posts)
7. "Angelo" needs to learn about these contracts.
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 05:04 PM
Mar 2023

Fox news doesn't negotiate anything. So, his clickbait is just false.

Fox negotiates their carriage as a bundle, not individually. If a cable or satellite company wants any Fox programming (and they all want sports and entertainment,) they have to carry everything that Fox has. It's all or nothing. This is how Fox insulates its "news" programming from the rigors of making a profit. The carriage fee is based on subscribers, not viewers. So, if nobody watched fox news, it would still garner enormous income earned by fox collecting their monthly fee from every subscriber to a cable or satellite service that carries any fox program.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
8. I no longer have cable (except as an internet provider), but I'd guess streaming bundles...
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 05:05 PM
Mar 2023

...operate much the same way.

I should have to option to drop Fox and save some money.

keep_left

(3,210 posts)
12. Didn't Fox sell off their entertainment division years ago? As I recall, the carriage fee...
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 05:42 PM
Mar 2023

...increases were by design (as asserted here) as a result of the Glenn Beck fiasco. Beck ended up having just about every major advertiser bail on him during his short tenure at Fox News. They pretty much had to insulate their shows from commercial pressures, at least if they wanted to continue to go farther and farther to the right with no trend toward moderation.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,690 posts)
13. More motivation for me to 'cut the cable'.
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 05:48 PM
Mar 2023

Many have already and do you think faux knows this? You betcha.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
15. A lot of this information is inaccurate
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 06:23 PM
Mar 2023

It is true that the per subscriber licensing (or "carriage&quot fee that Fox News charges is one of the highest in the industry, it is not the second highest. The highest is ESPN, which charges over $7.50 per sub. Second is TNT, which is in the neighborhood of $2.20 per subscriber. Third place belongs to NFL Network and then comes Fox News, at around $1.70/sub. (USA Network is next in line, with fees of around $1.65 sub).

More significantly, the notion that Fox (or any of the other cable networks) have a "profit margin" of more than 90% is pure hogwash. THat's not to say Fox isn't profitable -- its profit margin is between 35 and 39 percent.

Also significantly, Fox News, by itself or even when combined with Fox's other cable networks (Fox Sports, Fox Business) is not the largest source of revenue for Fox Corporation. The broadcast channels and the Fox television network are. For the most recent quarter, Fox reported $4.6 billion in revenues. Of that amount, $1.6 billion was attributable to the Fox cable networks (including, as noted above, not just Fox News). And of the $1.6 billion attributable to Fox cable networks, $1.3 billion came from the fees cable and satellite distributors pay to carry those networks. In contrast, the broadcast television side of the business delivered $2.93 billion in revenues during the last quarter, most of which came from advertising.

Finally, the cable network revenues actually declined from the quarter ending 12-31-22 compared to the quarter ending 12-31-21 because the number of cable and satellite subscribers has been declining. That creates an incentive for Fox to hold the line or even demand higher fees from cable and satellite.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fox-reports-second-quarter-fiscal-2023-revenues-of-4-61-billion-301741921.html

As for 60 percent of Fox's agreements expiring this year -- hard to know. The company announced it had entered into "long term" agreements with Comcast in 2020 and with Dish, Cox and Charter in 2019. It reached an agreement with DirecTV this past December. If those agreements were only for 3 or 4 years, then it may be that contracts representing 60 percent of the subscriber base may be up for renewal this year. But I wouldn't expect any major decreases in the fees charged when those agreements are renewed -- there is no indication that Fox reduced what it charges DirecTV.

Fox News is terrible. But it doesn't help anything to make up facts when discussing the economic realities of the Fox channels.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
24. Well, that's awkward
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 08:06 PM
Mar 2023

That a *checks* media advocate doesn't seem to understand how media work.

(Side note: I had to research who the guy on Twitter was. Can we just kind of enjoy the fact that this man clearly created and wrote his own wikipedia page? I don't know why, but I find that hilarious)

BlueSky3

(733 posts)
18. We don't pay for cable,
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 06:52 PM
Mar 2023

and just stream what we watch. For anyone who can get high speed internet, it's one way to avoid paying cable companies.

bmichaelh

(1,181 posts)
20. I block Fox News, Fox Business
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 07:19 PM
Mar 2023

I block Fox News and Fox Business. I rarely watch Fox Sports.

Someone, I know does not like my blocking.
They are a Trump supporter.

I try to explain to them, and they are not technological savvy, that if I did not block it and they accessed it, I would be inundated with Fox News videos, when I went on YouTube.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
22. I block all fox networks on my channel list
Thu Mar 2, 2023, 07:33 PM
Mar 2023

but it still makes me sick that I am paying for them to be on that system.

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